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monk: Just talked to Dustin and did an interview. There's a mistake in this translation. He said in the test map, Psionic units will be unaffected by Fungal, not Neural. Also, they're looking into a lot of changes for the infestor, including removing Neural entirely in HotS. |
I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just.......
I seriously hope this is a joke.
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Well, Infestors also won't be able to fungal other infestorrs now.
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On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:Show nested quote +I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke.
Only one way to find out... Dustin Browder showmatch!
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Browder to HomeStoryCup! Starting a petition.
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On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:Show nested quote +I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke.
it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O
he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level
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On November 18 2012 23:48 nojok wrote:
Make EMP an aoe dispell!!
this is actually an interesting idea, tho i don't think it would be too interesting to watch (he fungaled! oh look nice dispel!) etc
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On November 19 2012 02:21 StarVe wrote:
Browder to HomeStoryCup! Starting a petition.
OMG lol that would be interesting, tho i think the pros would have grudges/hate him 
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Part where Dustin talks about the "continue from replay" function sounds really awesome and is needed badly. I hope Blizzard get's it out asap. I also wonder how long they've been making it.
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On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level
If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game.
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On November 19 2012 02:44 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:21 StarVe wrote:
Browder to HomeStoryCup! Starting a petition. OMG lol that would be interesting, tho i think the pros would have grudges/hate him
A lot of the pros don't hate him and are a lot of talk. The reasonable ones would listen to him and the unreasonable ones would sit there and then make an angry post after how he was out of touch.
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On November 19 2012 03:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:44 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On November 19 2012 02:21 StarVe wrote:
Browder to HomeStoryCup! Starting a petition. OMG lol that would be interesting, tho i think the pros would have grudges/hate him A lot of the pros don't hate him and are a lot of talk. The reasonable ones would listen to him and the unreasonable ones would sit there and then make an angry post after how he was out of touch.
I've heard a number of pros badmouth him, I feel like him going to homestory would be a bit like Deezer or CombatEX trying to show up.
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On November 19 2012 03:29 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game.
They guys is the lead designer of video games, not a professional gamer. It makes sense that he could do very well on one base or even two. I'm pretty bad at starcraft, but I can do some pretty awesome micro/macro on one base. After 2 bases, I start to become pretty bad.
Rock does a lot more than just worry about multiplayer, like manage the people worry about multiplayer. In professional sports, owners of teams may not know the names of specific plays or up to date stats on their players. They hire people to worry about that. This guy has to worry about everything, including art direction, UI, arcade, publishing, the servers and a lot of other stuff that is not just 1v1 multiplayer.
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I thought Dustin Browder dropped to platinum, how exactly is he executing the first 10-15 minutes almost as well as the pros?
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On November 19 2012 03:38 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 03:31 Plansix wrote:On November 19 2012 02:44 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On November 19 2012 02:21 StarVe wrote:
Browder to HomeStoryCup! Starting a petition. OMG lol that would be interesting, tho i think the pros would have grudges/hate him A lot of the pros don't hate him and are a lot of talk. The reasonable ones would listen to him and the unreasonable ones would sit there and then make an angry post after how he was out of touch. I've heard a number of pros badmouth him, I feel like him going to homestory would be a bit like Deezer or CombatEX trying to show up.
I think you overestimate how brave those players would be in person when faced with the head designer of the game. A lot of people are very brave behind the wall of the internet, where there are no repercussions for their actions. From personal experience, these sorts of people are very timid when faced with the person they have been badmouthing.
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On November 19 2012 03:29 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game.
You can hit a lot of the same timings up to about 10 min w practice as pros but the decision-making about what to do after, the reflexes, none of that will be even close. I love your preconceived notion about how you think gold/platinum players act, as if they're all try hard whiners who have completely unrealistic ideas about their play.
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On November 19 2012 03:48 BlueLanterna wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 03:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game. You can hit a lot of the same timings up to about 10 min w practice as pros but the decision-making about what to do after, the reflexes, none of that will be even close. I love your preconceived notion about how you think gold/platinum players act, as if they're all try hard whiners who have completely unrealistic ideas about their play.
What makes you think it's a preconceived notion? I know tons of gold/plat players, there's like 40 on our CSL team and many of them think this same way. It really takes a certain amount of time and effort at SC2 to truly realize how bad you really are compared to pros. Also I love how you just pull out arbitrary numbers like "about 10 min" when Browder is saying "10-15 mins". The truth is, if you are Plat (or w/e league Browder is in) you aren't anywhere close to pro level, not at 5 minutes, not at 10 minutes, never. Maybe against an easy comp you can hit the same timings as pros, but that's about it.
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really good interview, very well done by Frodan!
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Nice interview. Good questions by Frodan and good answers from Dustin.
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On November 19 2012 03:58 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 03:48 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 03:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game. You can hit a lot of the same timings up to about 10 min w practice as pros but the decision-making about what to do after, the reflexes, none of that will be even close. I love your preconceived notion about how you think gold/platinum players act, as if they're all try hard whiners who have completely unrealistic ideas about their play. What makes you think it's a preconceived notion? I know tons of gold/plat players, there's like 40 on our CSL team and many of them think this same way. It really takes a certain amount of time and effort at SC2 to truly realize how bad you really are compared to pros. Also I love how you just pull out arbitrary numbers like "about 10 min" when Browder is saying "10-15 mins". The truth is, if you are Plat (or w/e league Browder is in) you aren't anywhere close to pro level, not at 5 minutes, not at 10 minutes, never. Maybe against an easy comp you can hit the same timings as pros, but that's about it.
It's a preconceived notion because you are forming an opinion on not one but two entire leagues based on hearing a minority have unrealistic ideas about their play. That does, and should not, follow to reason that you expect to hear ignorance from gold/plat players in general. Maybe your CSL team does a shitty job of picking people who have solid ideas about what they need to improve on? It's funny that you would extend all of their bogus thoughts to anyone else who incidentally is in the same league. The definition of prejudiced.
Also, it's hilarious that you think "about 10 minutes" is arbitrary when that is part of the statement DB made. I already addressed the fact that I don't think his reflexes or decision-making are there, period, to give him any idea of really being on the level of a pro but if you're discussing build orders, unit count, etc. he probably can do a pretty good job of hitting those marks at ~10 minutes
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On November 19 2012 04:08 BlueLanterna wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 03:58 SupLilSon wrote:On November 19 2012 03:48 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 03:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 19 2012 02:30 BlueLanterna wrote:On November 19 2012 02:16 yoigen wrote:I play random, and I can use any of the races. I know almost all the strategies for the races, as well as the various types of all-ins and cheeses.
I'm really good in the first 10-15 minutes, about as good as professionals even. But as the game draws longer, I become weaker and weaker, especially when it comes to a situation with 200/200 supply, my play is just....... I seriously hope this is a joke. it probably isn't, the guy might know of all of those strategies and possibilities from, ya know, being the designer of the game and having followed it closely since the beta O_O he's not saying he's consistently playing on a professional level If you've been following what Browder has said over the past 2 years it's clear that this is obviously either a joke or him just downright lying. The guy wasn't even aware of the mothership's use in PvZ months after it had become commonplace. Furthermore, the guy is in gold or plat league. It's just the exact type of ignorant statement that you'd expect to hear from someone of those leagues. "Oh yea, I'm basically as good as a pro, it's just my lategame engagements that hold me back, ya know..." No, he's nowhere near pro level, not at any time in the game. You can hit a lot of the same timings up to about 10 min w practice as pros but the decision-making about what to do after, the reflexes, none of that will be even close. I love your preconceived notion about how you think gold/platinum players act, as if they're all try hard whiners who have completely unrealistic ideas about their play. What makes you think it's a preconceived notion? I know tons of gold/plat players, there's like 40 on our CSL team and many of them think this same way. It really takes a certain amount of time and effort at SC2 to truly realize how bad you really are compared to pros. Also I love how you just pull out arbitrary numbers like "about 10 min" when Browder is saying "10-15 mins". The truth is, if you are Plat (or w/e league Browder is in) you aren't anywhere close to pro level, not at 5 minutes, not at 10 minutes, never. Maybe against an easy comp you can hit the same timings as pros, but that's about it. It's a preconceived notion because you are forming an opinion on not one but two entire leagues based on hearing a minority have unrealistic ideas about their play. That does, and should not, follow to reason that you expect to hear ignorance from gold/plat players in general. Maybe your CSL team does a shitty job of picking people who have solid ideas about what they need to improve on? It's funny that you would extend all of their bogus thoughts to anyone else who incidentally is in the same league. The definition of prejudiced. Also, it's hilarious that you think "about 10 minutes" is arbitrary when that is part of the statement DB made. I already addressed the fact that I don't think his reflexes or decision-making are there, period, to give him any idea of really being on the level of a pro but if you're discussing build orders, unit count, etc. he probably can do a pretty good job of hitting those marks at ~10 minutes
You realize that it's not possible to be in Gold or Plat if you play as well as Pros for 10-15 minutes? I'm sorry to sound like a dick, but do you actually play SC2? I only ask because I've seen you mod for streamers, but never knew if you played or not. Browder's statement is literally impossible unless he just throws games starting at the 15 minute mark.
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