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![[image loading]](http://img.dailygame.co.kr/news/201211/attachments/20121101_5d0ed280126bf6822635a2e3614945d1.jpg) 1.  Rain - SK Telecom T1 - 1446.8 - Up 32.  Flash - KT Rolster - 1150.5 - Down 13. Fantasy - SK Telecom T1 - 1108.5 - Down 14. JangBi - Samsung KHAN - 1072.5 - Down 15. Last - STX Soul - 771.8 - Up 36.  ZerO - Woongjin Stars - 769.5 - Down 17. Soulkey - Woongjin Stars - 726.8 - Down 18. Trap - STX Soul - 676.0 - Up 19. EffOrt - CJ ENTUS - 662.6 - Down 2+ Show Spoiler [Rest] + | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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Alphonsse
United States518 Posts
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On November 01 2012 11:29 tuho12345 wrote: Is this SC2 or SC1 or both >"< Seems to be both, based on OSL and Proleague. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On November 01 2012 11:30 PhoenixVoid wrote: Only non-KeSPA is DRG in the rankings due to OSL hehehe MC as well | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
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DrDeep
16 Posts
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
 Flash losing his spot was kind of expected. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 01 2012 11:36 MateShade wrote: lol rubbish rankings Use your brain, this is not a SC2 ranking. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:07 ZerglingTwins wrote: Use your brain, this is not a SC2 ranking. Then its.. a rubbish AND irrelevant ranking? :O | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:14 MateShade wrote: Then its.. a rubbish AND irrelevant ranking? :O Relevant to both BW and SC2, also KeSPA players. I guess I'm wrong, you did use your brain, it is just too slow. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:19 ZerglingTwins wrote: Relevant to both BW and SC2, also KeSPA players. I guess I'm wrong, you did use your brain, it is just too slow. No its not. You can't use these rankings to determine anything other than who won the osl lol. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:15 red4ce wrote: With the MSL gone this is essentially an OSL ranking. If that were true then Bisu would not be ranked. | ||
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:25 MateShade wrote: No its not. You can't use these rankings to determine anything other than who won the osl lol. OSL and proleague. Better than GSL ranking. What does GSL ranking do, only determine who won GSL, right? | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:25 MateShade wrote: No its not. You can't use these rankings to determine anything other than who won the osl lol. Yeah, because Flash got second place in the last OSL. That's why he's second. | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:27 ZerglingTwins wrote: OSL and proleague. Better than GSL ranking. What does GSL ranking do, only determine who won GSL, right? I didnt know there was a gsl ranking. even so its a better and more relevant measure than this | ||
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:42 ffrozenfish wrote: can someone explain how kespa made this list? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KeSPA_Ranking still accurate afaik | ||
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:50 Mindcrime wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KeSPA_Ranking still accurate afaik oh PL is counted, thank you sir | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:48 Dontkillme wrote: I think this is SCII Kespa rankings.. How far did Fantasy get to in this OSL? Some of the BW leagues are still represented in these rankings. Points gained from Proleagues and OSLs and maybe even MSLs of BW past are still included, but they decay over time and will eventually get replaced by points from the latest results of the SC2 OSL and hopefully the upcoming SC2 Proleague that I assume is still coming. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
sucks to be bisu | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On November 01 2012 12:14 MateShade wrote: Then its.. a rubbish AND irrelevant ranking? :O You clearly have absolutely no experience with Kespa ranking or how the system works. The ranking and elo numbers are heavily biased towards recent, deep individual leagues such as OSL and formerly the MSL. Proleague match results count far less than these individual league results. As such, you often see no names come out of nowhere and skyrocket the rankings if they make an unexpected, deep run such as a Royal Road attempt (Last, Rain). This is generally due to the higher number of games one plays against higher and higher ranked players in the later rounds of a tourney such as OSL. Elo decays over time with the about 1 year of lingering boosts to your ranking (see Jangbi, Fantasy still high up from their 2 finals appearances from last year) To: Mr.MateShade you have no idea about what you are talking about or the history behind these rankings and the significance of the ranking. Buzz off kindly until you can better inform yourself and comprehend the situation before you comment on it. b | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On November 01 2012 14:48 GhoSt[shield] wrote: You clearly have absolutely no experience with Kespa ranking or how the system works. The ranking and elo numbers are heavily biased towards recent, deep individual leagues such as OSL and formerly the MSL. Proleague match results count far less than these individual league results. As such, you often see no names come out of nowhere and skyrocket the rankings if they make an unexpected, deep run such as a Royal Road attempt (Last, Rain). This is generally due to the higher number of games one plays against higher and higher ranked players in the later rounds of a tourney such as OSL. Elo decays over time with the about 1 year of lingering boosts to your ranking (see Jangbi, Fantasy still high up from their 2 finals appearances from last year) To: Mr.MateShade you have no idea about what you are talking about or the history behind these rankings and the significance of the ranking. Buzz off kindly until you can better inform yourself and comprehend the situation before you comment on it. b ELO? KeSPA rankings are not based ELO. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
OSL finalist ranked 13th how silly. | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On November 01 2012 16:28 Too_MuchZerg wrote: ELO? KeSPA rankings are not based ELO. I meant Elo just as a ranking point. My bad for making that confusing. | ||
Waxangel
United States33505 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
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Grovbolle
Denmark3811 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
On November 01 2012 18:14 ACrow wrote: This is really meaningless. Why wouldn't they reset their ranking when switching games, silly. Kespa rankings have never really made sense though. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 02 2012 00:21 reincremate wrote: Kespa rankings have never really made sense though. But n.die soo > bisu and jaedong  | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
I think they factor in glasses size in the rankings. It is important after all. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:02 TommyP wrote: so it will always favor the kespa guys because of proleague right? Uh, this is strictly rankings for KeSPA players. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:09 MetalPanda wrote: Uh, this is strictly rankings for KeSPA players. Oh yea how did I forget that DRG and MC are kespa players now. but seriously, DRG is #13 and MC is #21. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
It wrongly contains points from BW, and it fails to account for a proper amount of leagues. At the very least, it must contain all the major Korean tournaments. Including the major foreign tournaments would be optimal, maybe not probable, but optimal. After all, placing high in a foreign tournament is definitely not something to be ignored. More than one career has been made on owning up foreign tournaments, and more than one rising star made a name for himself in the higher ends of an MLG or Dreamhack bracket. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:33 Salient wrote: The rankings are pretty meaningless since they conflate results from two different games and don't account for most ESF players like Mvp, Life, and Seed or foreignerslike Stephano. Even more so, since they literally consider only Proleague and OSL, thus ignoring the majority of top SC2 players (GSL players). I guess it does fill a bit of a role as an anti-GSL-point-ranking though | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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TheEmulator
28095 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:55 Salient wrote: Stephano is probably a better SC2 player than most of these KESPA players. Not for long. | ||
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benKrO71
France65 Posts
why are you so sure ? | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:55 Salient wrote: Stephano is probably a better SC2 player than most of these KESPA players. lolololololol Now that's a funny joke! I don't think I've laughed this hard in ages!  | ||
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
KeSPA rankings: ranking for events run under KeSPA. Is it that hard to understand? Points for older (BW) tournaments will eventually not count due to point degradation, so it is not an issue. Stop acting like eSports did not exist prior to Starcraft II. | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 02 2012 07:23 PauseBreak wrote: lolololololol Now that's a funny joke! I don't think I've laughed this hard in ages! he probably is, actually, haha | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 02 2012 07:23 PauseBreak wrote: How is MVP not on this? He's the most consistent Korean Terran that ever...is. lolololololol Now that's a funny joke! I don't think I've laughed this hard in ages! Because MVP hasn't done anything in any Kespa tournaments recently. | ||
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