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1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
October 24 2012 16:49 GMT
#381
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#382
On October 25 2012 01:49 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?


if im reading it right,

razer_chris saying jessica knowingly rejected personal mma sponsorship
jessica saying not true, "will look at her history" to verify
chris saying rejection email had jessica's name?/input? on it, but possibly something lost in translation
razer_korea saying it was always just manager j and jessica was not involved
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17991 Posts
October 24 2012 16:58 GMT
#383
Ahhh, a new day, a new episode of The Bold and the SC2ful.
Stye
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland40 Posts
October 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#384
On October 25 2012 01:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 00:55 kwaky wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.



No one denies she felt betrayed. But that doesnt mean she has the right to ruin their careers, just cause they decided not to be part of the team any longer.


Just beacuse what -- what --what??!

She doesn't ruin careers, she just says FACTS about what other people DID that ruined HER (I didn't see her say a lie yet even once. Just like a mod said, this deserves a new thread because it would be finally first thing jessica did wrong. Turned out it wasn't and that she was mislead by Manager J). She not only has every right to do that, but also should do that to not get used like that in future.

Naniwa got his invitation rejected for non-sportsmanship (probe rush vs Nestea).
Stephano got suspended for trolling about child abuse.
Orb had his career as a caster ruined for angry talk in games he played before ever being a commentator.

IF (and only if) MMA and Crank did what they did, completely backstabbed Slayers, hurt Boxer and Jessica (not to mention $100.000 boxer's investment), seeing their respective careers burn wouldn't even be enough for me, considering the punishments above players/casters had for much lesser misdemeanours. For me, Crank may feel safe with the Bains, but they won't protect him more than EG could protect Stephano or Quantic protect Naniwa. Punishment is punishment.

I also agree that if Manager J rejected Boxer's and MMA's sponsorships, it should require legal action. So I agree with people saying here : it's not drama. It's potentially court material.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#385
Meh, again Jessica ultimately seems to be right. Kinda fishy of Razer to interfere in this drama in such a manner, only to be proven wrong.
StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
October 24 2012 17:02 GMT
#386
GG jessica. Yum, delicious drama.
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 24 2012 17:03 GMT
#387
On October 25 2012 01:45 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...

"Manager J" is really Jessica's other personality that manifests when she feels threatened.

"Corporation R" is Razer, which offered both Boxer and MMA personal sponsorships

"Jessica" saw this and immediately became threatened. If Razer was offering a personal sponsorship, and those two did well, how long before they sponsor all of SlayerS and hire a real team manager, rendering her useless?!

"Manager J" (who will henceforth be known as just "J") then takes over due to "Jessica" feeling completely threatened and immediately rejects the offer. How dare they indirectly threaten "Jessica" with their misguided generosity!

"Jessica" completely unaware of "J's" protection continues on with her managing.

"J", tired of "Jessica's" meekness and horrible managerial skills, makes his ("J" is a male because, like Cersei Lannister, "Jessica" secretly believes that if she were born a man in this misogynist world, she would be amazing) move to take over completely. He pits as many members against "Jessica" as he can by telling them that she was conspiring against them.

"Jessica" catches wind of this plot, confronts "Manager J" in person (the mirror) and proceeds to fire him.

"J" bides his time, waiting for the seeds he planted to grow so that one day, he can take over after "Jessica" finally loses her mind.

And here we are today. Whether "J" or "Jessica" is in control, we do not know. One thing we do know is that whoever is in control, they've been outed by "Corporation R" themselves.


geez... Is that like a version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide but where both personalities are evil?
...I don't want to live in that reality.


It's a combination of Identity, Fight Club and Dr. J & Mr. H.

I'm already working on the script. I plan on having Nick Cage (he'll take any role these days) play "J" and Lindsay Lohan play "Jessica" and have M.Night direct. It's going to be epic(ly bad).
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
October 24 2012 19:36 GMT
#388
Money.

If your second cousin told you that your great-grandfather left you some money ($2000 for example) in his will, and said your parents "embezzled" your share... what would you think? If it were me, at the very least I'd be a curious. My parents are the responsible but over-bearing type; I don't think they would lie to me about this, and I wouldn't go "emancipate!" (lol). That said, I'd still be wondering about it unless I was shown solid evidence to dispel the bullshit spewed by that cousin.

I realize the it's not a direct example, none of them are related... it's just to show when the seed of doubt was planted, especially with money involved, the skepticism will remain. It's not like MMA chose to believe that manager J-Garfield dude (100%) over Boxer/Jessica (0%). He has doubts and unfortunately wasn't shown solid evidence to dispel possible bullshit, and/or he didn't demand said evidence. (Come on, there must to be evidence when it has to do with Jessica, right? :p)

Poor coach Ryu, he must have trusted everyone to not have a written agreement about money of that size.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
October 24 2012 19:43 GMT
#389
Clarify whether this is this Razer's stance... or the stance of Chris who talked to manager J. Then I'll prepare.


What a passive aggressive comment, lol.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 24 2012 19:47 GMT
#390
Can someone resume? I didn't get it, even more confusing now i read other posts in the topic..
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 24 2012 19:49 GMT
#391
Wax are you writing a book?

It never ends.

People need to let go of this shit and move on already.
iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
October 24 2012 19:55 GMT
#392
GG Jessica.
You lose, You learn
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
October 24 2012 20:00 GMT
#393
On October 25 2012 01:55 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 01:49 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?


if im reading it right,

razer_chris saying jessica knowingly rejected personal mma sponsorship
jessica saying not true, "will look at her history" to verify
chris saying rejection email had jessica's name?/input? on it, but possibly something lost in translation
razer_korea saying it was always just manager j and jessica was not involved


I'm kind of confused. So is this the fault of Manager J again?
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Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
October 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#394
All this is so confusing.. and everyones got their own pov just makes it worse..
MysteryTerran
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States178 Posts
October 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#395
Jessica and drama go hand and hand. Ive been saying she's a liar and chear for some time and even got mod warnings for doing so. Too bad she has went this far without the majority realizing. Who knows who she has screwed over the last year.
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iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
October 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#396
Manager J is Jessica. Calling it now.
You lose, You learn
ian952
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada124 Posts
October 24 2012 20:14 GMT
#397
As Manager J takes off his Jessica mask, Boxer takes off his manager J mask and Savior takes off his Boxer mask. The truth was revealed...
...
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 24 2012 20:18 GMT
#398
On October 25 2012 05:02 MysteryTerran wrote:
Jessica and drama go hand and hand. Ive been saying she's a liar and chear for some time and even got mod warnings for doing so. Too bad she has went this far without the majority realizing. Who knows who she has screwed over the last year.


Too bad in this entire thing she was 100% truthful so far, and she is the one who gets slandered and lied about. Too bad people like you still keep spewing bullshit.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 24 2012 20:32 GMT
#399
On October 24 2012 14:46 myth_au wrote:
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On October 24 2012 14:41 FabledIntegral wrote:
Jessica may be "right" after this is all over, but it doesn't detract from the fact she can't fucking seem to avoid drama. She's all over anything even slightly controversial. And she manages to make things so dramatic.... for example the "remember there are other things I can't mention because I'm protecting someone and it could ruin their career." Like really? FFS.

Getting bored of this drama. I think regardless of the fault here (seems like Manager J), Jessica should step out of esports until she can learn to avoid drama (aka picking fights over twitter, threatening legal action, making everything seem like a gigantic shitstorm or controversy, etc.).



I am shocked by this comment. Really. If you are accused of something which you know is false you have no right to rebut it?!

Really? If i said something wrong about you, you dont think its right for you to make a deal o fit?

Man some people on this thread just want thing everythign is a push over. There are times when people have to say something and make sure it comes out correct. That is why there are suits of defamation and libel claims.

So i dont think what Jessica is doing by bring this up is wrong. If she knows she hasn't doen anythign wrong and is a victim she has the right to respond. If she is wron gfine she should just shut up but give the girl a chance.

Stop being so judgmental.


Shocked? Maybe you're overly sensitive, just like Jessica.

The point is that Jessica gets involved in every controversy it seems. And she does it willingly. She engages regularly via twitter or whatnot criticizing anyone who doesn't agree with her, or on things that appear to be critical of the team. That is not professional, especially in the manner in which she does it.

No, I don't want people do be pushovers. I just don't want them to be a drama whore. No one likes a drama whore, whether online or in person, unless they like it for the sole purpose of entertainment value. Otherwise, it's just fucking annoying.

Just like if I have a gf I don't want to hear her bitch about every little thing that's wrong, even if something is wrong. People need to fucking learn to deal with things instead of make things worse.
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 20:39:00
October 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#400
Jesus christ, Jessica needs to stop saying that she is hiding things -_-.

You know, how about everyone just cuts the bullshit. Tell us who manager J is and let's see what really happened since he is at the center of it and no one is giving the whole story.
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