• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:29
CET 10:29
KST 18:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled3Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains12Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains
Tourneys
[GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2075 users

Razer's remarks on MMA personal sponsorship cutoff - Page 20

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 29 Next All
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
October 24 2012 16:49 GMT
#381
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#382
On October 25 2012 01:49 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?


if im reading it right,

razer_chris saying jessica knowingly rejected personal mma sponsorship
jessica saying not true, "will look at her history" to verify
chris saying rejection email had jessica's name?/input? on it, but possibly something lost in translation
razer_korea saying it was always just manager j and jessica was not involved
starleague forever
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18232 Posts
October 24 2012 16:58 GMT
#383
Ahhh, a new day, a new episode of The Bold and the SC2ful.
Stye
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland40 Posts
October 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#384
On October 25 2012 01:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 00:55 kwaky wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.



No one denies she felt betrayed. But that doesnt mean she has the right to ruin their careers, just cause they decided not to be part of the team any longer.


Just beacuse what -- what --what??!

She doesn't ruin careers, she just says FACTS about what other people DID that ruined HER (I didn't see her say a lie yet even once. Just like a mod said, this deserves a new thread because it would be finally first thing jessica did wrong. Turned out it wasn't and that she was mislead by Manager J). She not only has every right to do that, but also should do that to not get used like that in future.

Naniwa got his invitation rejected for non-sportsmanship (probe rush vs Nestea).
Stephano got suspended for trolling about child abuse.
Orb had his career as a caster ruined for angry talk in games he played before ever being a commentator.

IF (and only if) MMA and Crank did what they did, completely backstabbed Slayers, hurt Boxer and Jessica (not to mention $100.000 boxer's investment), seeing their respective careers burn wouldn't even be enough for me, considering the punishments above players/casters had for much lesser misdemeanours. For me, Crank may feel safe with the Bains, but they won't protect him more than EG could protect Stephano or Quantic protect Naniwa. Punishment is punishment.

I also agree that if Manager J rejected Boxer's and MMA's sponsorships, it should require legal action. So I agree with people saying here : it's not drama. It's potentially court material.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#385
Meh, again Jessica ultimately seems to be right. Kinda fishy of Razer to interfere in this drama in such a manner, only to be proven wrong.
StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
October 24 2012 17:02 GMT
#386
GG jessica. Yum, delicious drama.
Spontaneous Pneumothorax sucks, please keep MVP sC in your thoughts. sC fighting! 힘내세요
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 24 2012 17:03 GMT
#387
On October 25 2012 01:45 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...

"Manager J" is really Jessica's other personality that manifests when she feels threatened.

"Corporation R" is Razer, which offered both Boxer and MMA personal sponsorships

"Jessica" saw this and immediately became threatened. If Razer was offering a personal sponsorship, and those two did well, how long before they sponsor all of SlayerS and hire a real team manager, rendering her useless?!

"Manager J" (who will henceforth be known as just "J") then takes over due to "Jessica" feeling completely threatened and immediately rejects the offer. How dare they indirectly threaten "Jessica" with their misguided generosity!

"Jessica" completely unaware of "J's" protection continues on with her managing.

"J", tired of "Jessica's" meekness and horrible managerial skills, makes his ("J" is a male because, like Cersei Lannister, "Jessica" secretly believes that if she were born a man in this misogynist world, she would be amazing) move to take over completely. He pits as many members against "Jessica" as he can by telling them that she was conspiring against them.

"Jessica" catches wind of this plot, confronts "Manager J" in person (the mirror) and proceeds to fire him.

"J" bides his time, waiting for the seeds he planted to grow so that one day, he can take over after "Jessica" finally loses her mind.

And here we are today. Whether "J" or "Jessica" is in control, we do not know. One thing we do know is that whoever is in control, they've been outed by "Corporation R" themselves.


geez... Is that like a version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide but where both personalities are evil?
...I don't want to live in that reality.


It's a combination of Identity, Fight Club and Dr. J & Mr. H.

I'm already working on the script. I plan on having Nick Cage (he'll take any role these days) play "J" and Lindsay Lohan play "Jessica" and have M.Night direct. It's going to be epic(ly bad).
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
October 24 2012 19:36 GMT
#388
Money.

If your second cousin told you that your great-grandfather left you some money ($2000 for example) in his will, and said your parents "embezzled" your share... what would you think? If it were me, at the very least I'd be a curious. My parents are the responsible but over-bearing type; I don't think they would lie to me about this, and I wouldn't go "emancipate!" (lol). That said, I'd still be wondering about it unless I was shown solid evidence to dispel the bullshit spewed by that cousin.

I realize the it's not a direct example, none of them are related... it's just to show when the seed of doubt was planted, especially with money involved, the skepticism will remain. It's not like MMA chose to believe that manager J-Garfield dude (100%) over Boxer/Jessica (0%). He has doubts and unfortunately wasn't shown solid evidence to dispel possible bullshit, and/or he didn't demand said evidence. (Come on, there must to be evidence when it has to do with Jessica, right? :p)

Poor coach Ryu, he must have trusted everyone to not have a written agreement about money of that size.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
October 24 2012 19:43 GMT
#389
Clarify whether this is this Razer's stance... or the stance of Chris who talked to manager J. Then I'll prepare.


What a passive aggressive comment, lol.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 24 2012 19:47 GMT
#390
Can someone resume? I didn't get it, even more confusing now i read other posts in the topic..
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 24 2012 19:49 GMT
#391
Wax are you writing a book?

It never ends.

People need to let go of this shit and move on already.
iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
October 24 2012 19:55 GMT
#392
GG Jessica.
You lose, You learn
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
October 24 2012 20:00 GMT
#393
On October 25 2012 01:55 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 01:49 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
The OP is really confusing, and now everyone has deleted tweets. Who's the bad guy in this?


if im reading it right,

razer_chris saying jessica knowingly rejected personal mma sponsorship
jessica saying not true, "will look at her history" to verify
chris saying rejection email had jessica's name?/input? on it, but possibly something lost in translation
razer_korea saying it was always just manager j and jessica was not involved


I'm kind of confused. So is this the fault of Manager J again?
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
October 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#394
All this is so confusing.. and everyones got their own pov just makes it worse..
MysteryTerran
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States178 Posts
October 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#395
Jessica and drama go hand and hand. Ive been saying she's a liar and chear for some time and even got mod warnings for doing so. Too bad she has went this far without the majority realizing. Who knows who she has screwed over the last year.
Playing Protoss is like playing Guitar Hero on Very Easy
iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
October 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#396
Manager J is Jessica. Calling it now.
You lose, You learn
ian952
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada124 Posts
October 24 2012 20:14 GMT
#397
As Manager J takes off his Jessica mask, Boxer takes off his manager J mask and Savior takes off his Boxer mask. The truth was revealed...
...
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 24 2012 20:18 GMT
#398
On October 25 2012 05:02 MysteryTerran wrote:
Jessica and drama go hand and hand. Ive been saying she's a liar and chear for some time and even got mod warnings for doing so. Too bad she has went this far without the majority realizing. Who knows who she has screwed over the last year.


Too bad in this entire thing she was 100% truthful so far, and she is the one who gets slandered and lied about. Too bad people like you still keep spewing bullshit.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 24 2012 20:32 GMT
#399
On October 24 2012 14:46 myth_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:41 FabledIntegral wrote:
Jessica may be "right" after this is all over, but it doesn't detract from the fact she can't fucking seem to avoid drama. She's all over anything even slightly controversial. And she manages to make things so dramatic.... for example the "remember there are other things I can't mention because I'm protecting someone and it could ruin their career." Like really? FFS.

Getting bored of this drama. I think regardless of the fault here (seems like Manager J), Jessica should step out of esports until she can learn to avoid drama (aka picking fights over twitter, threatening legal action, making everything seem like a gigantic shitstorm or controversy, etc.).



I am shocked by this comment. Really. If you are accused of something which you know is false you have no right to rebut it?!

Really? If i said something wrong about you, you dont think its right for you to make a deal o fit?

Man some people on this thread just want thing everythign is a push over. There are times when people have to say something and make sure it comes out correct. That is why there are suits of defamation and libel claims.

So i dont think what Jessica is doing by bring this up is wrong. If she knows she hasn't doen anythign wrong and is a victim she has the right to respond. If she is wron gfine she should just shut up but give the girl a chance.

Stop being so judgmental.


Shocked? Maybe you're overly sensitive, just like Jessica.

The point is that Jessica gets involved in every controversy it seems. And she does it willingly. She engages regularly via twitter or whatnot criticizing anyone who doesn't agree with her, or on things that appear to be critical of the team. That is not professional, especially in the manner in which she does it.

No, I don't want people do be pushovers. I just don't want them to be a drama whore. No one likes a drama whore, whether online or in person, unless they like it for the sole purpose of entertainment value. Otherwise, it's just fucking annoying.

Just like if I have a gf I don't want to hear her bitch about every little thing that's wrong, even if something is wrong. People need to fucking learn to deal with things instead of make things worse.
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 20:39:00
October 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#400
Jesus christ, Jessica needs to stop saying that she is hiding things -_-.

You know, how about everyone just cuts the bullshit. Tell us who manager J is and let's see what really happened since he is at the center of it and no one is giving the whole story.
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 159
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 322
actioN 273
Larva 251
Mini 227
BeSt 198
Leta 120
Pusan 75
sorry 45
Nal_rA 44
ToSsGirL 44
[ Show more ]
Backho 39
NaDa 29
Bale 17
Rush 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 467
XcaliburYe141
League of Legends
JimRising 457
Counter-Strike
olofmeister977
Stewie2K686
shoxiejesuss663
m0e_tv533
edward44
zeus39
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor132
Other Games
ceh9406
crisheroes242
Sick186
Fuzer 124
Hui .94
NeuroSwarm62
oskar37
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10616
Other Games
gamesdonequick918
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos765
• Stunt566
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
14h 32m
CranKy Ducklings
1d
RSL Revival
1d
MaxPax vs Rogue
Clem vs Bunny
WardiTV Team League
1d 2h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
Patches Events
1d 7h
BSL
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
GSL
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-12
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.