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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 24 2012 15:22 GMT
#361
On October 24 2012 23:31 fearus wrote:
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On October 24 2012 22:33 Fenrax wrote:
I think if someone made a timeline of the events and claims it would really help us understand what the key points are.


It'll probably look something like this + Show Spoiler +
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OH MY GOD I was JUST about to post that hahahahah
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ToF
Profile Joined December 2011
Suriname40 Posts
October 24 2012 15:28 GMT
#362
Somewhere in the other thread around page 35-ish it has been suggested that manager J is Jung "Garfield"' Chul, a Counterstike guy. He has a profile page on the SK-gaming website. Under description it says 'part of team Slayers'. Have I missed something or did this guy just vanish?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#363
On October 25 2012 00:22 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
The suspense is killing me ~~

It feels so much like movie, who is the murderer?? ahaha

Jessica in the lounge with the candlestick.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:52:04
October 24 2012 15:35 GMT
#364
On October 25 2012 00:30 Djzapz wrote:
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On October 25 2012 00:22 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
The suspense is killing me ~~

It feels so much like movie, who is the murderer?? ahaha

Jessica in the lounge with the candlestick.

Can't believe I'm downloading one of her movies right now.. Seeing this whole situation her movies must be kickass Doramas.

Edit: Scrolled through it and deleted all in 20 seconds.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
October 24 2012 15:35 GMT
#365
This is the most convoluted shit ever.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
October 24 2012 15:42 GMT
#366
Probably Jessica's producers should think hard into making it into a movie. This would be so realistic, considering she would act there.
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
October 24 2012 15:44 GMT
#367
On October 24 2012 13:59 Fionn wrote:
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On October 24 2012 13:57 GungraveHero2 wrote:
do you realy need a new thread for that ?


It's a pretty big development. Pretty much catches Jessica in a gigantic lie.

This sucks for MMA. A personal sponsorship would have been massive for a player who didn't have a salary.


Can you please quote what makes you 100% of that ? Im not a fan of anyone here, but ive been reading the last post and this one, and I dont see how one can be completly sure of whos lying, but from what i read from the sponsors answers, i understand they are agreeing with jessica.
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kwaky
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:56:55
October 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#368
On October 24 2012 23:50 Rabiator wrote:
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On October 24 2012 22:38 kwaky wrote:
If I was Jessica I'd feel pretty betrayed.

Why betrayed (which puts the blame on someone else) and not stupid (which puts the blame on her)?

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.

On October 24 2012 23:50 Rabiator wrote:
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On October 24 2012 22:38 kwaky wrote:
But at the same time there must have been a reason MMA trusted manager J more than Jessica.
Either way at least we now know for sure that this manager J is an asshole.

Do we know that? He hasnt spoken so far and we only know from Jessica that he used her email account to answer Razer apparently. Does that mean its true? This really ties in with the comment above and someone who gives access to their personal email to a stranger is not really very wise when it comes to money and management matters, so it really adds doubt to anything she says.

What? I'm basing this off of Razer_MidNight's deleted tweet: "Manager J, out of ill intent, deliberately kept out offer hidden from owner of Slayers, Kim, Ja Yeon (Jessica)". That doesn't sound like an asshole to you?

Let's say I agree that Jessica was stupid to share her email account with manager J. That still doesn't excuse him for doing what he did.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 16:04:22
October 24 2012 16:03 GMT
#369
On October 25 2012 00:55 kwaky wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.



No one denies she felt betrayed. But that doesnt mean she has the right to ruin their careers, just cause they decided not to be part of the team any longer.
mokumoku
Profile Joined January 2012
157 Posts
October 24 2012 16:19 GMT
#370
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 16:23:35
October 24 2012 16:23 GMT
#371
On October 25 2012 01:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 00:55 kwaky wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.



No one denies she felt betrayed. But that doesnt mean she has the right to ruin their careers, just cause they decided not to be part of the team any longer.

Telling the truth isn't maliciously ruining a career. It's not like Jessica was sworn to secrecy if someone decided to do something dishonourable.
kwaky
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 16:30:53
October 24 2012 16:26 GMT
#372
On October 25 2012 01:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 00:55 kwaky wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Read what she said: "I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried." Like I said I'm sure MMA had his reasons for trusting manager J over Jessica, but you can't deny the fact that from her perspective, Jessica felt betrayed.



No one denies she felt betrayed. But that doesnt mean she has the right to ruin their careers, just cause they decided not to be part of the team any longer.

The poster I was replying to denied it. I agree with your second statement, although Shiori also makes a good point.
I don't necessarily put the blame on solely one person in this situation, but as someone who hasn't been following StarCraft 2 for almost a year, it was sad to come back to read that Slayers was disbanding.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 24 2012 16:35 GMT
#373
On October 25 2012 00:22 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
The suspense is killing me ~~

It feels so much like movie, who is the murderer?? ahaha

I was hoping for BoxeR interview... it was a team based on him , right??


The plot twist is that YOU are the murderer, this was just all an elaborate play to pinpoint the problems with the Starcraft II community that's quick to judge, quick to join witch hunts, and care more about personal emotional drama than integrity in gaming.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
October 24 2012 16:36 GMT
#374
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...


lol feels like something pulled out of dbz
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 24 2012 16:37 GMT
#375
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...

"Manager J" is really Jessica's other personality that manifests when she feels threatened.

"Corporation R" is Razer, which offered both Boxer and MMA personal sponsorships

"Jessica" saw this and immediately became threatened. If Razer was offering a personal sponsorship, and those two did well, how long before they sponsor all of SlayerS and hire a real team manager, rendering her useless?!

"Manager J" (who will henceforth be known as just "J") then takes over due to "Jessica" feeling completely threatened and immediately rejects the offer. How dare they indirectly threaten "Jessica" with their misguided generosity!

"Jessica" completely unaware of "J's" protection continues on with her managing.

"J", tired of "Jessica's" meekness and horrible managerial skills, makes his ("J" is a male because, like Cersei Lannister, "Jessica" secretly believes that if she were born a man in this misogynist world, she would be amazing) move to take over completely. He pits as many members against "Jessica" as he can by telling them that she was conspiring against them.

"Jessica" catches wind of this plot, confronts "Manager J" in person (the mirror) and proceeds to fire him.

"J" bides his time, waiting for the seeds he planted to grow so that one day, he can take over after "Jessica" finally loses her mind.

And here we are today. Whether "J" or "Jessica" is in control, we do not know. One thing we do know is that whoever is in control, they've been outed by "Corporation R" themselves.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
October 24 2012 16:43 GMT
#376
Whether Jessica was caught in a lie or not...she can still escape from it by claiming that Razer's communications in regard to this personal sponsorship were lost in translation. Like a corrupt politician, she can erase her lies by telling new ones. That's what I expect her next statement will be.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
October 24 2012 16:44 GMT
#377
Its been so obvious from the beginning jessica is at the root of all this garbage. Obviously some former kpop/drama/idol girl cant manage a team. Why the fuck did boxer let her have anything to do with this, just to ditch and head back to SKT.
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
October 24 2012 16:45 GMT
#378
On October 25 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...

"Manager J" is really Jessica's other personality that manifests when she feels threatened.

"Corporation R" is Razer, which offered both Boxer and MMA personal sponsorships

"Jessica" saw this and immediately became threatened. If Razer was offering a personal sponsorship, and those two did well, how long before they sponsor all of SlayerS and hire a real team manager, rendering her useless?!

"Manager J" (who will henceforth be known as just "J") then takes over due to "Jessica" feeling completely threatened and immediately rejects the offer. How dare they indirectly threaten "Jessica" with their misguided generosity!

"Jessica" completely unaware of "J's" protection continues on with her managing.

"J", tired of "Jessica's" meekness and horrible managerial skills, makes his ("J" is a male because, like Cersei Lannister, "Jessica" secretly believes that if she were born a man in this misogynist world, she would be amazing) move to take over completely. He pits as many members against "Jessica" as he can by telling them that she was conspiring against them.

"Jessica" catches wind of this plot, confronts "Manager J" in person (the mirror) and proceeds to fire him.

"J" bides his time, waiting for the seeds he planted to grow so that one day, he can take over after "Jessica" finally loses her mind.

And here we are today. Whether "J" or "Jessica" is in control, we do not know. One thing we do know is that whoever is in control, they've been outed by "Corporation R" themselves.


geez... Is that like a version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide but where both personalities are evil?
...I don't want to live in that reality.

moo...for DRG
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 24 2012 16:45 GMT
#379
On October 25 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 01:19 mokumoku wrote:
can someone summarize, need cliffs, have no idea who J and Corp R is...

"Manager J" is really Jessica's other personality that manifests when she feels threatened.

"Corporation R" is Razer, which offered both Boxer and MMA personal sponsorships

"Jessica" saw this and immediately became threatened. If Razer was offering a personal sponsorship, and those two did well, how long before they sponsor all of SlayerS and hire a real team manager, rendering her useless?!

"Manager J" (who will henceforth be known as just "J") then takes over due to "Jessica" feeling completely threatened and immediately rejects the offer. How dare they indirectly threaten "Jessica" with their misguided generosity!

"Jessica" completely unaware of "J's" protection continues on with her managing.

"J", tired of "Jessica's" meekness and horrible managerial skills, makes his ("J" is a male because, like Cersei Lannister, "Jessica" secretly believes that if she were born a man in this misogynist world, she would be amazing) move to take over completely. He pits as many members against "Jessica" as he can by telling them that she was conspiring against them.

"Jessica" catches wind of this plot, confronts "Manager J" in person (the mirror) and proceeds to fire him.

"J" bides his time, waiting for the seeds he planted to grow so that one day, he can take over after "Jessica" finally loses her mind.

And here we are today. Whether "J" or "Jessica" is in control, we do not know. One thing we do know is that whoever is in control, they've been outed by "Corporation R" themselves.


So Jessica, become Male Jessica, and talk to MMA

Male Jessica: Hey, the female version forward ur personal contract to BoxeR.

*MMA trust Male J*

Female Jessica crying **

Female Jessica : I put so much effort, and MMA believe the one just come into Teamhouse 2 months only...

MMA: I trust her, she crying. Maybe I should not trust her, will make her feel better. I shall tell the rest of the members too.

Next day,
*Slayers Disband*
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
October 24 2012 16:46 GMT
#380
Only 1 question... What coming next Episode in Dramacraft...??
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