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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 24 2012 11:18 GMT
#321
On October 24 2012 20:16 mikedebo wrote:
Wax is just trying to get as many 100 page threads out of this as he can. I'm on to you, mister! *shakes fist*

:D

so you mean it is actually ok to post oneliners?

with a smiley
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 11:30:20
October 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#322


So mitchell was talking to jessica via translator directly about MMA's sponsorship.

And thats what MMA was really upset over, since it does seem like Jessica was trying to get the sponsorship for her beau instead. At least thats what MMA thought.

I dunno about the Steelseries and EG partnership though. I guess it makes sense but I havent seen Jessica claim that.
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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 24 2012 11:54 GMT
#323
If Jessica wants to get to the bottum of this, she should reveal all the facts before anyone judges. She is still keeping so many hidden information from the public. It's making everyone confused.

Also, manager J needs to be revealed so some interviews with him take place so Wax can get more kicks out of this whole thing.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:01:18
October 24 2012 12:00 GMT
#324
On October 24 2012 20:29 Medrea wrote:
https://twitter.com/MitchellChris/status/260576184121831424

So mitchell was talking to jessica via translator directly about MMA's sponsorship.

And thats what MMA was really upset over, since it does seem like Jessica was trying to get the sponsorship for her beau instead. At least thats what MMA thought.

I dunno about the Steelseries and EG partnership though. I guess it makes sense but I havent seen Jessica claim that.

Yes, he was communication to her through the email. Although Manager J also had access to that email, so who knows if it was Jessica, or someone else.
Also, we don't know if it was Jessica's personal email or a SlayerS marketing email or what kind of email it was. Nothing specific was disclosed so nothing Chris Mitchell said makes any difference.
Just reassures everyone that there was an individual sponsorship deal on the table at one point.

Edit: EG/Steelseries thing has nothing to do with it. Was just some people speculating. Not factual.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 24 2012 12:01 GMT
#325
I think it was over the phone or something. The e-mail thing is about something else entirely.
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gamerfan
Profile Joined October 2012
17 Posts
October 24 2012 12:03 GMT
#326
On October 24 2012 21:01 Medrea wrote:
I think it was over the phone or something. The e-mail thing is about something else entirely.


How about not assuming and use facts? Assuming shit is what brought this whole thing down.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:12:13
October 24 2012 12:10 GMT
#327
Well Mitchell was very convinced he was talking to Jessica directly.

So either this was over the phone or through Jessica's email. And if J has access to her email account and Jessica is STILL trying to defend herself then that is just the biggest face palm ever.

Your saying J impersonated Jessica and denied sponsorships for his own teams players?
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
October 24 2012 12:15 GMT
#328
On October 24 2012 21:10 Medrea wrote:
Well Mitchell was very convinced he was talking to Jessica directly.

So either this was over the phone or through Jessica's email. And if J has access to her email account and Jessica is STILL trying to defend herself then that is just the biggest face palm ever.

Your saying J impersonated Jessica and denied sponsorships for his own teams players?


As opposed to Jessica denying sponsorship for her own teams players?
bisu fanboy
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
October 24 2012 12:16 GMT
#329
Jessica?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_freak

Control freaks are often perfectionists[3] defending themselves against their own inner vulnerabilities, in the belief that, if not in total control, they risk exposing themselves once more to childhood angst.[4] Such figures manipulate and pressurise others to change, so as to avoid having to change themselves;[5] use power over others to escape an inner emptiness.[6] When a control freak's pattern is broken, “the Controller is left with a terrible feeling of powerlessness … But feeling their pain and fear brings them back to themselves”.[7]

Control freaks have been linked to codependents, in the sense that the latters' fear of abandonment leads to attempts to control those they are dependent on.[8] Recovery for them entails recognising that being a control freak helped paradoxically preserve codependency itself.[9]

In terms of personality-type theory, control freaks are very much the Type A personality, driven by the need to dominate and control.[10] An obsessive need to control others is also associated with antisocial personality disorder.[11]
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 24 2012 12:17 GMT
#330
On October 24 2012 21:15 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 21:10 Medrea wrote:
Well Mitchell was very convinced he was talking to Jessica directly.

So either this was over the phone or through Jessica's email. And if J has access to her email account and Jessica is STILL trying to defend herself then that is just the biggest face palm ever.

Your saying J impersonated Jessica and denied sponsorships for his own teams players?


As opposed to Jessica denying sponsorship for her own teams players?


Yeah for Boxer or something.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:21:17
October 24 2012 12:20 GMT
#331
If Jessica gave this Manager J guy access to her email-account, it would only show that she is totally incompetent to run a business as big as SlayerS (and SlayerS isn't that big). Never ever can you allow someone else to be able to communicate under your name, that is just so bad, that it doesn't even matter if Razer spoke to Jessica directly or to M J.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 24 2012 12:20 GMT
#332
On October 24 2012 20:29 Medrea wrote:
https://twitter.com/MitchellChris/status/260576184121831424

So mitchell was talking to jessica via translator directly about MMA's sponsorship.

And thats what MMA was really upset over, since it does seem like Jessica was trying to get the sponsorship for her beau instead. At least thats what MMA thought.

I dunno about the Steelseries and EG partnership though. I guess it makes sense but I havent seen Jessica claim that.

Haha oh boy here is where we find out Manager J intercepted all the messages. We've got a human implementation of Alice,Malice, and Bob guys ~

I need to get more popcorn....
Ded808
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia116 Posts
October 24 2012 12:21 GMT
#333
Eh so according to Razer's tweet, sponsorship rejection came from Jessica's email account. Oh and Manager J also had access to this email account apparently.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. If Manager J is being blamed for so much that went wrong, and so many bad intentions for the team, then why is NO ONE going after Manager J?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 24 2012 12:24 GMT
#334
On October 24 2012 21:21 Ded808 wrote:
Eh so according to Razer's tweet, sponsorship rejection came from Jessica's email account. Oh and Manager J also had access to this email account apparently.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. If Manager J is being blamed for so much that went wrong, and so many bad intentions for the team, then why is NO ONE going after Manager J?


I think either she is and its not even a contended point, or she isn't and its because she knows she doesnt have anything on him.

Either way she is still responsible for what comes out of her email account.
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#335
Poor MMA... He must be absolutely furious right now.
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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:34:56
October 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#336
On October 24 2012 21:21 Ded808 wrote:
Eh so according to Razer's tweet, sponsorship rejection came from Jessica's email account. Oh and Manager J also had access to this email account apparently.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. If Manager J is being blamed for so much that went wrong, and so many bad intentions for the team, then why is NO ONE going after Manager J?



Manager J.. a person with a name that starts with J in Korea and has access to Jessica's personal e-mail account.... JESSICA, the plot thickens.

It's silly though, everyone seems to assume manage J is a guy, even the translators.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:36:27
October 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#337
On October 24 2012 21:21 Ded808 wrote:
Eh so according to Razer's tweet, sponsorship rejection came from Jessica's email account. Oh and Manager J also had access to this email account apparently.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous. If Manager J is being blamed for so much that went wrong, and so many bad intentions for the team, then why is NO ONE going after Manager J?

His Twitter account is: https://twitter.com/chuljung

Wanna give it a shot?
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
October 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#338
Seems like Razer are just contradicting themselves out of lack of interest. People keep talking about Jessica's e-mail but was this Jessica's personal e-mail or her de-facto e-mail in the sense that it was a Slayers e-mail that she used before J was put in charge of sponsorship stuff?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:35:15
October 24 2012 12:35 GMT
#339
And more drama, I really wish we could just all be sad that slayers is gone and move on...

Ah well I call next thing is manager j appearing in an interview with his face blured out, saying that everything is jessicas fault :D
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#340
I dunno they are doing the frustrating thing where they dont use enough words to decribe what they are talking about.
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