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Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
October 24 2012 09:38 GMT
#301
On October 24 2012 16:00 Prplppleatr wrote:
So...

First Chris says that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship for MMA and Boxer.

Then Jessica, basically, threatens Razer to say that it was Manager J alone.

Then Razer comes back and says that it was manager J, but also deletes the tweet.

D r a m a

So if that was the case everyone should not blaming jessica and blame manager J for taking over her email? I am confused
FallenEncore
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom64 Posts
October 24 2012 09:38 GMT
#302
Everyday something new :O
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 09:42:44
October 24 2012 09:39 GMT
#303
On October 24 2012 18:34 Kenny_oro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 18:13 Woizit wrote:

Both sponserships in fact (personal ones for Boxer and MMA), which doesn't make sense.

Stupid move by a Razer manager IMO. He's just put his company in the frontline of this whole mess without making himself clear, and now he has to backtrack like an idiot.


Stupid move by the Stracraft community telling the sponsorship manager for one of the largest sponsors of our scene that he is stupid for trying to clear things up.

Razer might have a nice view of the SC2 Community and all the drama we create or stir up. Nice image we're creating here ..

I wouldn't wonder if Razer starts to push much more money into LoL instead of starcraft ... -.-*

What we're doing right now with Chris is showing him what a minefield sponsoring SC2 can be for his company. It's not that he owes us anything. They are sponsors!


Huh. I'm just stating the facts and what I feel of having him jump into this whole mess. The way I see it, the situation of Manager J has always been delicate and is clearly being handled behind the public eyes.

I'm all for promoting SC2, but I'll call stupidity as it is.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
October 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#304
On October 24 2012 18:34 Kenny_oro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 18:13 Woizit wrote:

Both sponserships in fact (personal ones for Boxer and MMA), which doesn't make sense.

Stupid move by a Razer manager IMO. He's just put his company in the frontline of this whole mess without making himself clear, and now he has to backtrack like an idiot.


Stupid move by the Stracraft community telling the sponsorship manager for one of the largest sponsors of our scene that he is stupid for trying to clear things up.

Razer might have a nice view of the SC2 Community and all the drama we create or stir up. Nice image we're creating here ..

I wouldn't wonder if Razer starts to push much more money into LoL instead of starcraft ... -.-*

What we're doing right now with Chris is showing him what a minefield sponsoring SC2 can be for his company. It's not that he owes us anything. They are sponsors!

Actually, you're wrong. If anything, Razer is slapping Chris for acting out like an idiot. You just don't make comments like that in the business world. He's probably good at what he does, but a little ignorant in the global business world in general. At the very least, in the communication of it all.
Stupid move by him.

Btw, have you take a look at the LoL community? lol.....
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#305
Someone early was asking for a nice short summation of this entire mess. I now provide it, free from any sarcasm and without exaggeration or distortion.

+ Show Spoiler +

Jessica announced that SlayerS is disbanding after their last GSTL match in the first week of November. Proceeds to say stuff. SlayerS players (past and present) say stuff. StarTales coach says stuff. Razer says stuff. Massive shit storm of accusations, counter-accusations, claimed proofs, rebuttals, and released phone transcript. The end result is SlayerS disbands, and StarCraft 2 goes on. Communities in West and in Korea gnaw on the bones of drama for several threadnaughts. Boxer does not say anything (yet, I think), because he's the new head coach of SKT1. People take sides for or against Jessica. Doesn't really matter to anyone actually involved.


Seriously, the TL;dr version is - SlayerS announced to be disbanding; in the announcement, drama starts. Shit storm follows. While Forum Warriors pick sides and battle, the world keeps on spinning. No tournaments or leagues are significantly harmed.

The Community (on all sides) strikes again.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 24 2012 09:45 GMT
#306
Why isnt there anyone pitchforking this Manger J guy?
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 24 2012 09:45 GMT
#307
My god, I can't even follow along anymore at this point T_T

Maybe when this is all over I'll be able to read a summary of the whole fiasco
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 24 2012 09:46 GMT
#308
On October 24 2012 18:32 disciple wrote:
This show is going downhill since last weeks episode.

this is only part 1 of a double header, next week will tie up all the loose ends and the bad guy will be revealed.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 09:52:54
October 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#309
On October 24 2012 18:45 covetousrat wrote:
Why isnt there anyone pitchforking this Manger J guy?


Not sure. Does he have sponsors we can write to? Also, if Jessica does the right thing (sue the hell out of Manager J - I'm sure they've done something actionable) the identity will become public.

------

On a different topic - why would Razer delete the tweet? Because Jessica probably has zero problem with threatening them with a lawsuit of some kind over it - and while it's possible they could win a lawsuit (depending on what "proof" there is on either side, and if it's all hearsay, and what venue it's tried in) the cost in time, money, and potential negative exposure simply isn't worth it to the company.

------

Aerisky, I think my summary is probably the best way to look at it. Although the OPs of major threadnaughts have been reasonably good at keeping their OPs updated with new information. And of course, it's always possible there will be a breakdown of events on SotG, LO3, ITG, or from Slasher's sources.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Blattdorf
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland38 Posts
October 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#310
Well, that's going to be one hell of a Final Cut once everything is over and done with.
Drop by for translations into Polish: http://tinyurl.com/6fjwlnt
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
October 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#311
On October 24 2012 18:32 disciple wrote:
This show is going downhill since last weeks episode.

A Korean drama without amnesia and children switched by birth? Pffft!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#312
I hope Jessica and Manager J switch to LoL as well
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Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
October 24 2012 10:12 GMT
#313
On October 24 2012 18:35 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 18:12 Flonomenalz wrote:
But why would Jessica reject a sponsorship?

:s

Just speculation, but possible reasons would be

1. GSTL partnership with EG (Steelseries)

2. Personal Razer sponsorship for only BoxeR and MMA would make it VERY difficult for the rest of the team to get gaming gear sponsors.

First point didn't hinder them forming a partnership in the first place, even though boxer was already sponsored by razer.
And to the second: On the one hand, again Boxer is already sponsored by razer, so I don't see it changing that much, and on the other hand I guess it would be highly unlikely that suddenly another gaming gear company stepped in to sponsor the whole team (steelseries still partnered with slayers and zowie for example already has StarTale)...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 24 2012 10:23 GMT
#314
God this drama never ends...

And the fact players are involved makes me quite anxious, I want them to continue SC2 and free their mind of this thing...
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 10:31:45
October 24 2012 10:29 GMT
#315
Is there any reason she provided for not doublechecking what "manager J" was doing since everything went downhill since he was running things? It seems quite naive, don't you think?

Edit:
On October 24 2012 18:03 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 17:23 Proseat wrote:
Wouldn't be unbelievable that Manager J had access to Jessica's e-mail account...
Chris Mitchell ‏@MitchellChris
@Peter72972598 @xiaopewpew @ProxyDrake The rejection came from her email address, although apparently Manager J had access to it.
11:46 PM - 23 Oct 12 · Details


update the OP, wax!
Things are becoming mighty interesting!

How will Sherlock Jessica get out of this one, friends?


Holy shit. how . . . inexperienced has she been to do something like this?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 24 2012 10:50 GMT
#316
On October 24 2012 19:09 opterown wrote:
I hope Jessica and Manager J switch to LoL as well

Hahahaha, quickest way to kill their scene
Get off my lawn, young punks
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
October 24 2012 10:54 GMT
#317
On October 24 2012 18:48 felisconcolori wrote:
On a different topic - why would Razer delete the tweet? Because Jessica probably has zero problem with threatening them with a lawsuit of some kind over it - and while it's possible they could win a lawsuit (depending on what "proof" there is on either side, and if it's all hearsay, and what venue it's tried in) the cost in time, money, and potential negative exposure simply isn't worth it to the company.

You realize that the deleted tweet from Razer Korea was actually beneficial to Jessica?

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
October 24 2012 11:00 GMT
#318
I feel like watching santa barbara.
Its grack
Razac
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands101 Posts
October 24 2012 11:15 GMT
#319
Man i dont understand a think about this entire drama thing, great thing isnt it.
www.twitch.tv/razac_
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 24 2012 11:16 GMT
#320
Wax is just trying to get as many 100 page threads out of this as he can. I'm on to you, mister! *shakes fist*

:D
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
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