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On October 24 2012 16:00 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:57 m4inbrain wrote:On October 24 2012 15:55 Popkiller wrote:On October 24 2012 15:54 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:53 Popkiller wrote:
ah shit it was right there in front of us... all she had to say was J had access to her email. She's good. I believe you mean Chris said that she said. he actually didn't say she said anything about who had access to her email. Actually, he did. I quoted it earlier. I was being very specific. He said "apparently" J had access, not that Jessica told him J had access. Did I miss something?
Oh no, i misread your posting. Sorry. You're right with that.
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On October 24 2012 16:00 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:57 m4inbrain wrote:On October 24 2012 15:55 Popkiller wrote:On October 24 2012 15:54 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:53 Popkiller wrote:
ah shit it was right there in front of us... all she had to say was J had access to her email. She's good. I believe you mean Chris said that she said. he actually didn't say she said anything about who had access to her email. Actually, he did. I quoted it earlier. I was being very specific. He said "apparently" J had access, not that Jessica told him J had access. Did I miss something?
Chris's point is the following:
The rejection came from her email.
Someone had access to her email, since someone rejected his offer.
It was either her (since it is her email) or J, since she is claiming he rejected the offer.
Therefore, it must be J.
This is logic.
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On October 24 2012 15:56 JAWS_ wrote:
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris
@Peter72972598 @xiaopewpew @ProxyDrake The rejection came from her email address, although apparently Manager J had access to it.
Another fact, is came from her mail.
What amazes me the most is people still bashing MMA, Would you really expect him to react in what way after all this shit? He sia din his interview that other players went to himt elling the stuff the management (Maybe Jessica/Boxer) were saying to him, talking bad things of him just cause he questioned something he had every right to do it after seeing this Razor tweets. God I lover Boxer but even being my idol if the guy called me a Cancer I would say something like MMA did too, can you guys really blame him?
Jawy ! nobody is bashing MMA in these pages.... T.T why cant you get it T.T this is too hard !!! T.T we are just discussing if Jessica is innocent in the sponsorship thing T.T
On the other hand, it is clear now that both Jessica and MMA's accounts are true regarding the sponsorship thing. MMA believed manager J and later acted like a dxxx while Jessica was really hurt and saw MMA misbehaving and accused him of damaging the house's atmosphere. A huge misunderstanding.
Now im bashing MMA a little ! I would say it is very weird that he trusted someone he knew for only a few months instead of trusting Boxer and Jessica who brought him to the esports scene and took care of him for so long. I can understand how hurt Boxer and Jessica must be.
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On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S.
So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting.
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On October 24 2012 15:59 dongmydrum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:53 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 15:34 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:32 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 15:24 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 24 2012 15:17 lilsusie wrote:
KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
이것이 레이저사의 입장인지.. J매니져와 대화햇던 크리스의 입장인지 명확히 밝히세요 그럼 나도 준비를 할께요
Is this the perspective of Razer... or is it the opinion of Chris that Manager J has been talking to, please clarify. I will prepare.
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스..당신과 나는 새로운 스폰서쉅에 대해서 얘기하지 않고 J매니저와 얘기햇어요
Chris, you and I did not talk about a new sponsorship, you talked to Manager J
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스가 얘기를 앞뒤 상황잘라먹고 하는거 같네요 제 기억과 이메일 확인 작업후 올릴께요 크리스.. 그럴 말할 자격 없을텐데요.. 모든게 연관이 잇다는걸 .. 제가 감춰주는게 있다는걸 이해 못하는군요. 전 그럼 확인 갑니다
It seems that Chris is cutting out the front and back of the story. I will post my memory [of this] and after checking my email once I'm done with work... You're not qualified to say things like that... everything is connected... You don't understand that I'm trying to hide something for you.. then I will go check now.
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More or less. Sorry for the rough translation. Why is she always always so aggressive with her tweets....and why is she again ambiguously saying MMA did something wrong by saying she is trying to hide something from chris... in which part is she being ambiguous? and you can't fault her for being aggressive, i'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused me for doing something I've never done. From the beginning, she provided all the facts and the other side only gave assumptions. Not an iota of evidence has been out that disproves her story Jessica's been the aggressor since the beginning. Everyone else is playing defender. Funny you said you'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused you of doing something. How do you think MMA, Crank, Ryung, Alicia, and MC feel at the moment? Did anybody come up with any proof that disproved Jessica's statement? Jessica was the victim from the beginning basically MMA and Crank thought she was guilty of embezzling their funds and now she's just defending herself. well, this quote seems to disprove one of Jessica's previous statements, and it was made by Jessica herself no less! On October 24 2012 15:22 Waxangel wrote: btw whatever happened to this? "Q: What about his assertion on hiding information on transfers? A: I hid nothing. I search for teams because he wanted to move to a foreign team. A foreign team asked me how much it would cost to transfer MMA. So I simply stated his value. I told this team how much it would be after combining their offer on salaries, various costs for taking care of MMA, and the money needed to be paid to me for his remaining contractual period. I actually said that it would be better for them to use this amount to acquire our team as a whole. But I never received any replies. The negotiation didn't fail, but rather I simply replied to their request and even suggested an acquisition." doesn't that directly contradict her denial of blocking a foreign move by calling a big transfer fee? Waxangel doesn't seem to be getting your attention with this, so I'll bring it up a 3rd time. She's not gonna release him for nothing, so the question is the price that Jessica asked for reasonable? its not like she said they have to pay her $100000000000000 in order to get him. she stated the fair market value
She said directly that the cost of acquiring MMA was equal to the cost of acquiring MMA, Ryyung, Genius, Coca, Puzzle, Min, Brown, etc., THE WHOLE FREAKING TEAM. If she honestly was charging a transfer fee for MMA equal to the cost of the whole team, why the heck would someone just pick up MMA when they could get the whole team at the same price and just keep who they want??? There would seem to be absolutely no reason to just pick up MMA in said situation, confirming there was no interest on her part on just getting rid of MMA at that point.
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On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting.
Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so.  But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly.
Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them.
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On October 24 2012 16:03 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:56 JAWS_ wrote:
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris
@Peter72972598 @xiaopewpew @ProxyDrake The rejection came from her email address, although apparently Manager J had access to it.
Another fact, is came from her mail.
What amazes me the most is people still bashing MMA, Would you really expect him to react in what way after all this shit? He sia din his interview that other players went to himt elling the stuff the management (Maybe Jessica/Boxer) were saying to him, talking bad things of him just cause he questioned something he had every right to do it after seeing this Razor tweets. God I lover Boxer but even being my idol if the guy called me a Cancer I would say something like MMA did too, can you guys really blame him? Jawy ! nobody is bashing MMA in these pages.... T.T why cant you get it T.T this is too hard !!! T.T we are just discussing if Jessica is innocent in the sponsorship thing T.T On the other hand, it is clear now that both Jessica and MMA's accounts are true regarding the sponsorship thing. MMA believed manager J and later acted like a dxxx while Jessica was really hurt and saw MMA misbehaving and accused him of damaging the house's atmosphere. A huge misunderstanding. Now im bashing MMA a little ! I would say it is very weird that he trusted someone he knew for only a few months instead of trusting Boxer and Jessica who brought him to the esports scene and took care of him for so long. I can understand how hurt Boxer and Jessica must be.
This. Korean netizens are simply saying that these players were "naive" and "unprofessional". I'm sure they had little to no ill intent, but there were consequences.
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On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players.
Hm.. I disagree.
Only MMA was an outstanding player that was produced from Slayers. Taeja had won a lot even when he was on Zenex. Ganzi, despite being good, was a mid tier player and Ryung never really had any results.
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On October 24 2012 16:06 Mozzery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:59 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:53 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 15:34 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:32 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 15:24 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 24 2012 15:17 lilsusie wrote:
KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
이것이 레이저사의 입장인지.. J매니져와 대화햇던 크리스의 입장인지 명확히 밝히세요 그럼 나도 준비를 할께요
Is this the perspective of Razer... or is it the opinion of Chris that Manager J has been talking to, please clarify. I will prepare.
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스..당신과 나는 새로운 스폰서쉅에 대해서 얘기하지 않고 J매니저와 얘기햇어요
Chris, you and I did not talk about a new sponsorship, you talked to Manager J
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스가 얘기를 앞뒤 상황잘라먹고 하는거 같네요 제 기억과 이메일 확인 작업후 올릴께요 크리스.. 그럴 말할 자격 없을텐데요.. 모든게 연관이 잇다는걸 .. 제가 감춰주는게 있다는걸 이해 못하는군요. 전 그럼 확인 갑니다
It seems that Chris is cutting out the front and back of the story. I will post my memory [of this] and after checking my email once I'm done with work... You're not qualified to say things like that... everything is connected... You don't understand that I'm trying to hide something for you.. then I will go check now.
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More or less. Sorry for the rough translation. Why is she always always so aggressive with her tweets....and why is she again ambiguously saying MMA did something wrong by saying she is trying to hide something from chris... in which part is she being ambiguous? and you can't fault her for being aggressive, i'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused me for doing something I've never done. From the beginning, she provided all the facts and the other side only gave assumptions. Not an iota of evidence has been out that disproves her story Jessica's been the aggressor since the beginning. Everyone else is playing defender. Funny you said you'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused you of doing something. How do you think MMA, Crank, Ryung, Alicia, and MC feel at the moment? Did anybody come up with any proof that disproved Jessica's statement? Jessica was the victim from the beginning basically MMA and Crank thought she was guilty of embezzling their funds and now she's just defending herself. well, this quote seems to disprove one of Jessica's previous statements, and it was made by Jessica herself no less! On October 24 2012 15:22 Waxangel wrote: btw whatever happened to this? "Q: What about his assertion on hiding information on transfers? A: I hid nothing. I search for teams because he wanted to move to a foreign team. A foreign team asked me how much it would cost to transfer MMA. So I simply stated his value. I told this team how much it would be after combining their offer on salaries, various costs for taking care of MMA, and the money needed to be paid to me for his remaining contractual period. I actually said that it would be better for them to use this amount to acquire our team as a whole. But I never received any replies. The negotiation didn't fail, but rather I simply replied to their request and even suggested an acquisition." doesn't that directly contradict her denial of blocking a foreign move by calling a big transfer fee? Waxangel doesn't seem to be getting your attention with this, so I'll bring it up a 3rd time. She's not gonna release him for nothing, so the question is the price that Jessica asked for reasonable? its not like she said they have to pay her $100000000000000 in order to get him. she stated the fair market value She said directly that the cost of acquiring MMA was equal to the cost of acquiring MMA, Ryyung, Genius, Coca, Puzzle, Min, Brown, etc., THE WHOLE FREAKING TEAM. If she honestly was charging a transfer fee for MMA equal to the cost of the whole team, why the heck would someone just pick up MMA when they could get the whole team at the same price and just keep who they want??? There would seem to be absolutely no reason to just pick up MMA in said situation, confirming there was no interest on her part on just getting rid of MMA at that point.
Don't forget salary requirements, if a foreign team has to pay every player a salary that will amount to more than MMA + transfer fee.
Also, maybe the Calming Music Discussion is a thread you may want to look in.
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And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?
MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.
And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?
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On October 24 2012 16:06 Mozzery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 15:59 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:53 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 15:34 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:32 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 15:24 dongmydrum wrote:On October 24 2012 15:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 24 2012 15:17 lilsusie wrote:
KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
이것이 레이저사의 입장인지.. J매니져와 대화햇던 크리스의 입장인지 명확히 밝히세요 그럼 나도 준비를 할께요
Is this the perspective of Razer... or is it the opinion of Chris that Manager J has been talking to, please clarify. I will prepare.
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스..당신과 나는 새로운 스폰서쉅에 대해서 얘기하지 않고 J매니저와 얘기햇어요
Chris, you and I did not talk about a new sponsorship, you talked to Manager J
1h KimKaYeon @SlayerS_Jessica
크리스가 얘기를 앞뒤 상황잘라먹고 하는거 같네요 제 기억과 이메일 확인 작업후 올릴께요 크리스.. 그럴 말할 자격 없을텐데요.. 모든게 연관이 잇다는걸 .. 제가 감춰주는게 있다는걸 이해 못하는군요. 전 그럼 확인 갑니다
It seems that Chris is cutting out the front and back of the story. I will post my memory [of this] and after checking my email once I'm done with work... You're not qualified to say things like that... everything is connected... You don't understand that I'm trying to hide something for you.. then I will go check now.
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More or less. Sorry for the rough translation. Why is she always always so aggressive with her tweets....and why is she again ambiguously saying MMA did something wrong by saying she is trying to hide something from chris... in which part is she being ambiguous? and you can't fault her for being aggressive, i'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused me for doing something I've never done. From the beginning, she provided all the facts and the other side only gave assumptions. Not an iota of evidence has been out that disproves her story Jessica's been the aggressor since the beginning. Everyone else is playing defender. Funny you said you'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused you of doing something. How do you think MMA, Crank, Ryung, Alicia, and MC feel at the moment? Did anybody come up with any proof that disproved Jessica's statement? Jessica was the victim from the beginning basically MMA and Crank thought she was guilty of embezzling their funds and now she's just defending herself. well, this quote seems to disprove one of Jessica's previous statements, and it was made by Jessica herself no less! On October 24 2012 15:22 Waxangel wrote: btw whatever happened to this? "Q: What about his assertion on hiding information on transfers? A: I hid nothing. I search for teams because he wanted to move to a foreign team. A foreign team asked me how much it would cost to transfer MMA. So I simply stated his value. I told this team how much it would be after combining their offer on salaries, various costs for taking care of MMA, and the money needed to be paid to me for his remaining contractual period. I actually said that it would be better for them to use this amount to acquire our team as a whole. But I never received any replies. The negotiation didn't fail, but rather I simply replied to their request and even suggested an acquisition." doesn't that directly contradict her denial of blocking a foreign move by calling a big transfer fee? Waxangel doesn't seem to be getting your attention with this, so I'll bring it up a 3rd time. She's not gonna release him for nothing, so the question is the price that Jessica asked for reasonable? its not like she said they have to pay her $100000000000000 in order to get him. she stated the fair market value She said directly that the cost of acquiring MMA was equal to the cost of acquiring MMA, Ryyung, Genius, Coca, Puzzle, Min, Brown, etc., THE WHOLE FREAKING TEAM. If she honestly was charging a transfer fee for MMA equal to the cost of the whole team, why the heck would someone just pick up MMA when they could get the whole team at the same price and just keep who they want??? There would seem to be absolutely no reason to just pick up MMA in said situation, confirming there was no interest on her part on just getting rid of MMA at that point.
she did not say it "equaled". she just said it would be better to use that money to acquire the whole team, implying that MMA's value was huge compared to the other team mates. That seems reasonable considering the popularity of MMA. if this happened way back, then it seems even more likely.
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On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting. Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly. Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them.
In a word, Taeja is a genius at the game yo
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On October 24 2012 16:11 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting. Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly. Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them. In a word, Taeja is a genius at the game yo
I'm starting to think that's about the only thing we can all agree on in this thread. 
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On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?
MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.
And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?
First of all, what MMA stated is his observation not a solid fact. Even if Boxer denies it, im sure you guys will say he's just saying that because of his girlfriend anyway. Second of all, we are talking about business dealings here. MMA believed that Jessica was embezzling his sponsorship money. Well im sure that would create a very nice and friendly atmosphere when his teammates hear that their owner is taking their money away from them.
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On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting. Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly. Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them.
I dunno if it is the case that Slayers do not allow taeja to live in the team house like you seem to be suggesting. But I guess one way to look at it is. Lets see how well he will be doing 1 year from now.
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On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?
MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.
And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?
By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.
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On October 24 2012 16:14 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting. Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly. Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them. I dunno if it is the case that Slayers do not allow taeja to live in the team house like you seem to be suggesting. But I guess one way to look at it is. Lets see how well he will be doing 1 year from now.
Please. It was widely known. Look, I even Googled it for you:
The parting seems to be amicable, although team manager Jessica has expressed regret at seeing them go. GanZi is due for his mandatory service soon and wanted to experience the culture of a non-Korean team before enlistment. TaeJa perhaps had weaker bonds to the team as he did not live in the SlayerS house, and he had his own practice routine. However, it seems like his departure was more due to a desire for the benefits Korean players are perceived to receive on foreign teams rather than any disgruntlement with his current situation.
-- From http://esfiworld.com/news/taeja-ganzi-leave-slayers
This was, as I said, widely known.
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On October 24 2012 16:14 dongmydrum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?
MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.
And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive? First of all, what MMA stated is his observation not a solid fact. Even if Boxer denies it, im sure you guys will say he's just saying that because of his girlfriend anyway. Second of all, we are talking about business dealings here. MMA believed that Jessica was embezzling his sponsorship money. Well im sure that would create a very nice and friendly atmosphere when his teammates hear that their owner is taking their money away from them.
And now to my point again, after all this shit spread into the fan, with Jessica releasing everything, don't you think would be easier for them to just apologize and put the blame on MMA? Instead they are all in their statement saying how hard it was to deal with Jessica and backing up parts of MMA story.
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On October 24 2012 16:17 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:14 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King. Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players. I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S. So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting. Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly. Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them. I dunno if it is the case that Slayers do not allow taeja to live in the team house like you seem to be suggesting. But I guess one way to look at it is. Lets see how well he will be doing 1 year from now. Please. It was widely known. Look, I even Googled it for you: Show nested quote +The parting seems to be amicable, although team manager Jessica has expressed regret at seeing them go. GanZi is due for his mandatory service soon and wanted to experience the culture of a non-Korean team before enlistment. TaeJa perhaps had weaker bonds to the team as he did not live in the SlayerS house, and he had his own practice routine. However, it seems like his departure was more due to a desire for the benefits Korean players are perceived to receive on foreign teams rather than any disgruntlement with his current situation. -- From http://esfiworld.com/news/taeja-ganzi-leave-slayersThis was, as I said, widely known.
Could we leave Taeja out of this thread and focus on stuff that actually is related to the topic?
Taeja was a good player before and after SlayerS, so everything is just fine.
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On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?
MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.
And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive? By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.
Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.
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