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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 24 2012 07:21 GMT
#2121
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
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On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


You don't want to cite Alicia as a reliable source though.
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:21 GMT
#2122
On October 24 2012 16:17 babylon wrote:
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On October 24 2012 16:14 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King.


Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players.

I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S.


So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting.

Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly.

Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them.


I dunno if it is the case that Slayers do not allow taeja to live in the team house like you seem to be suggesting. But I guess one way to look at it is. Lets see how well he will be doing 1 year from now.

Please. It was widely known. Look, I even Googled it for you:

Show nested quote +
The parting seems to be amicable, although team manager Jessica has expressed regret at seeing them go. GanZi is due for his mandatory service soon and wanted to experience the culture of a non-Korean team before enlistment. TaeJa perhaps had weaker bonds to the team as he did not live in the SlayerS house, and he had his own practice routine. However, it seems like his departure was more due to a desire for the benefits Korean players are perceived to receive on foreign teams rather than any disgruntlement with his current situation.

-- From http://esfiworld.com/news/taeja-ganzi-leave-slayers

This was, as I said, widely known.


I know that. But i would imaging it is because parents do not want their 16 year old kid to live so far away from home. You said Slayers do not give Taeja enough attention, this seems to suggest Slayers do not think Taeja is good enough to stay in the team house. That is all im saying. Thanks for googling though.
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Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:23:39
October 24 2012 07:22 GMT
#2123
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed
dongmydrum
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States139 Posts
October 24 2012 07:23 GMT
#2124
On October 24 2012 16:18 JAWS_ wrote:
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On October 24 2012 16:14 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?

First of all, what MMA stated is his observation not a solid fact. Even if Boxer denies it, im sure you guys will say he's just saying that because of his girlfriend anyway. Second of all, we are talking about business dealings here. MMA believed that Jessica was embezzling his sponsorship money. Well im sure that would create a very nice and friendly atmosphere when his teammates hear that their owner is taking their money away from them.


And now to my point again, after all this shit spread into the fan, with Jessica releasing everything, don't you think would be easier for them to just apologize and put the blame on MMA? Instead they are all in their statement saying how hard it was to deal with Jessica and backing up parts of MMA story.

So blame Jessica for being a bad communicator but that doesn't change the fact that Jessica did in fact told them that Manager J was being shady and they still believed Manager J over Jessica. Besides, when MMA suspected Jessica of being shady, he went to Boxer not Jessica. Guess who has a trust issue in the first place? why do you think Jessica felt betrayed at MMA's action?
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:24 GMT
#2125
On October 24 2012 16:21 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


You don't want to cite Alicia as a reliable source though.


this really doesnt mean anything... Jessica already said that Crank Ryung MMA and Alicia had their own little gay circle and they are drifting away from everyone else in the team ...... There are other players in Slayers. Not ALL players are taking MMA's side.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 24 2012 07:24 GMT
#2126
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?

Yeah..no.

From the looks of it only ones on his side are Ryung and Alicia.

Everyone else (Miya, Dark, Arthur, even Puzzle, CoCa) don't seem to be on his.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:27:09
October 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#2127
Hm.

We really cant tell where the communication broke down exactly. Only "Manager J" would know.
All we're saying is that there was an offer for both Boxer and MMA, which has been rejected. Both Manager J and Jessica in the email.


By Chris Mitchell on reddit. I can't really imagine Jessica purposely reject a sponsorship for Boxer. Maybe i'm wrong, but it would not make sense to me.
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#2128
On October 24 2012 16:24 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?

Yeah..no.

From the looks of it only ones on his side are Ryung and Alicia.

Everyone else (Miya, Dark, Arthur, even Puzzle, CoCa) don't seem to be on his.


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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#2129
On October 24 2012 16:19 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:17 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:14 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:07 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:05 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:59 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:49 TLsc3 wrote:
no matter where MMA goes he is a true champion. Of Course of Boxer. I am a big time fan of Mvp (best player so far) but every time MMA meets Mvp, MMA seems slightly better. Its really sad day in Starcraft history for team, community, players, Legends like Boxer. May MMA find a team where he can enhance his skills even more. I am sure he will return like a King.


Boxer made MMA, without Boxer, he is nothing. Slayers was called Terran Academy for a reason. You look at Ganzi, Taeja, MMA, I cannot think of another team producing so many outstanding Terran players.

I really hate Taeja being brought into points like this. SlayerS did not produce Taeja, lol. They barely knew Taeja existed. He didn't stay at the teamhouse (no room), didn't practice with his team (mostly practiced with others online), and Boxer even said, "I didn't know how good he is," when Taeja got him into Code S.


So you think Taeja designed his own training routines. hmm interesting.

Actually, considering Taeja is doing superbly right now in Korea by himself on a foreign team with nobody to look over his shoulder, yes, I do actually think so. But then again, I'm hipster and followed him all throughout the Weekly.

Would like to add that Diamond has also said that SlayerS didn't really give Taeja the attention he deserved, and it was widely known that he didn't live in the teamhouse nor practice with his teammates. I doubt they could "design" him a training routine when he didn't even live with them.


I dunno if it is the case that Slayers do not allow taeja to live in the team house like you seem to be suggesting. But I guess one way to look at it is. Lets see how well he will be doing 1 year from now.

Please. It was widely known. Look, I even Googled it for you:

The parting seems to be amicable, although team manager Jessica has expressed regret at seeing them go. GanZi is due for his mandatory service soon and wanted to experience the culture of a non-Korean team before enlistment. TaeJa perhaps had weaker bonds to the team as he did not live in the SlayerS house, and he had his own practice routine. However, it seems like his departure was more due to a desire for the benefits Korean players are perceived to receive on foreign teams rather than any disgruntlement with his current situation.

-- From http://esfiworld.com/news/taeja-ganzi-leave-slayers

This was, as I said, widely known.


Could we leave Taeja out of this thread and focus on stuff that actually is related to the topic?

Taeja was a good player before and after SlayerS, so everything is just fine.

I just hate people attributing Taeja's skill to SlayerS when the team did practically nothing for him. He didn't even get the benefits of food and lodging. The only thing they did was field him in the team-league a few times to get his name out there (which, incidentally, didn't help at all considering nobody except TL even offered him a spot on their team).

This is almost as irritating as people saying PuMa is amazing 'cause he was Flash's practice partner ...
JAWS_
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:27:57
October 24 2012 07:26 GMT
#2130
On October 24 2012 16:22 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed


And now lets try be logical again, at least you have other people backing each other.

If MMA was indeed a cancer and was the one to blame as Jessica said why didn't any other Slayer player came to talk on her behalf? Why didn't any other coach? Even Cella

All you have is a public figure veteran that was dealing with adults (they are not child) but totally unexperianced with such public image recording phone calls and saving e-mail that would back up her in the future, but that still doesn't backup the whole story.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 24 2012 07:28 GMT
#2131
On October 24 2012 16:26 JAWS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:22 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed


And now lets try be logical again, at least you have other people backing each other.

If MMA was indeed a cancer and was the one to blame as Jessica said why didn't any other Slayer player came to talk on her behalf? Why didn't any other coach? Even Cella

All you have is a public figure veteran that was dealing with adults (they are not child) but totally unexperianced with such public image recording phone calls and saving e-mail that would back up her in the future, but that stil doesn't backup the whole story.

Cella was sitting right next to Jessica at the press conference when she leaked the tape. Pretty sure he is on her side.
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:30:32
October 24 2012 07:29 GMT
#2132
On October 24 2012 16:26 JAWS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:22 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed


And now lets try be logical again, at least you have other people backing each other.

If MMA was indeed a cancer and was the one to blame as Jessica said why didn't any other Slayer player came to talk on her behalf? Why didn't any other coach? Even Cella

All you have is a public figure veteran that was dealing with adults (they are not child) but totally unexperianced with such public image recording phone calls and saving e-mail that would back up her in the future, but that still doesn't backup the whole story.


Cella is backing Jessica the entire time...

edit: I'm getting slow.. ninja!
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:30 GMT
#2133
I will help Jaws to respond to that

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Its only because they are doing it !!!
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*flies away*
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GungraveHero2
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:31 GMT
#2134
On October 24 2012 16:24 Xiaopewpew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:21 m4inbrain wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


You don't want to cite Alicia as a reliable source though.


this really doesnt mean anything... Jessica already said that Crank Ryung MMA and Alicia had their own little gay circle and they are drifting away from everyone else in the team ...... There are other players in Slayers. Not ALL players are taking MMA's side.


boxer used the term thugs when he was talking about mma ( or that how this was translated )
maybe , maybe crank ryung and mma are the bad apple here ?
and mma look like the kind of guy who think he the best , full of himself
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
October 24 2012 07:31 GMT
#2135
On October 24 2012 15:42 dongmydrum wrote:
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On October 24 2012 15:38 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:34 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:32 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:24 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:20 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:17 lilsusie wrote:
KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
이것이 레이저사의 입장인지.. J매니져와 대화햇던 크리스의 입장인지 명확히 밝히세요 그럼 나도 준비를 할께요

Is this the perspective of Razer... or is it the opinion of Chris that Manager J has been talking to, please clarify. I will prepare.

1h KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
크리스..당신과 나는 새로운 스폰서쉅에 대해서 얘기하지 않고 J매니저와 얘기햇어요

Chris, you and I did not talk about a new sponsorship, you talked to Manager J

1h KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
크리스가 얘기를 앞뒤 상황잘라먹고 하는거 같네요 제 기억과 이메일 확인 작업후 올릴께요 크리스.. 그럴 말할 자격 없을텐데요.. 모든게 연관이 잇다는걸 .. 제가 감춰주는게 있다는걸 이해 못하는군요. 전 그럼 확인 갑니다

It seems that Chris is cutting out the front and back of the story. I will post my memory [of this] and after checking my email once I'm done with work... You're not qualified to say things like that... everything is connected... You don't understand that I'm trying to hide something for you.. then I will go check now.

---

More or less. Sorry for the rough translation.

Why is she always always so aggressive with her tweets....and why is she again ambiguously saying MMA did something wrong by saying she is trying to hide something from chris...


in which part is she being ambiguous? and you can't fault her for being aggressive, i'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused me for doing something I've never done. From the beginning, she provided all the facts and the other side only gave assumptions. Not an iota of evidence has been out that disproves her story


Jessica's been the aggressor since the beginning. Everyone else is playing defender. Funny you said you'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused you of doing something.

How do you think MMA, Crank, Ryung, Alicia, and MC feel at the moment?


Did anybody come up with any proof that disproved Jessica's statement? Jessica was the victim from the beginning basically MMA and Crank thought she was guilty of embezzling their funds and now she's just defending herself.


She started this entire shitstorm. Everyone else only spoke up to defend themselves after she ran a whirlwind of blog posts, tweets, and other shenanigans. Of the players that spoke up, they at least said their piece, owned up to what they said they did, and apologized.

Jessica has done none of the sort.


Of course she could've quietly gone away without saying anything, but why should you expect her to do that? that was her team and her whole team was ravaged by a shady manager and ESF's decision to isolate them. do you think J's or ESF's decision was right? what is wrong with telling the truth and exposing wrongs that were done to her team?

But she's doing it in a way that is hurting players like MMA, Ryung, etc; these players had NO wrong period.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:32:38
October 24 2012 07:31 GMT
#2136
On October 24 2012 16:29 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:26 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:22 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed


And now lets try be logical again, at least you have other people backing each other.

If MMA was indeed a cancer and was the one to blame as Jessica said why didn't any other Slayer player came to talk on her behalf? Why didn't any other coach? Even Cella

All you have is a public figure veteran that was dealing with adults (they are not child) but totally unexperianced with such public image recording phone calls and saving e-mail that would back up her in the future, but that still doesn't backup the whole story.


Cella is backing Jessica the entire time...

edit: I'm getting slow.. ninja!



Maybe you need a weekend at Lelystad or Venray. You know, just to get used to speed again.

Edit: yeah, better answer in the middle of a spoilered quote by another person, god im tired.
JAWS_
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:32:43
October 24 2012 07:32 GMT
#2137
My whole point is that you have 4 sources against one, and this one that already proved to be hard to deal with by the community and other peers.

And people that states that she shown proofs thats Bull shit, she just found wholes on the players statements cause she was smart enough to keep everything recorded.

Or else she would have proof to make them look wrong in every angle and not just a couple, this kids (calling them this cause of the experience not age) were just not smart and all they have is their memories of the discussions.
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
October 24 2012 07:33 GMT
#2138
On October 24 2012 16:25 m4inbrain wrote:
Hm.

Show nested quote +
We really cant tell where the communication broke down exactly. Only "Manager J" would know.
All we're saying is that there was an offer for both Boxer and MMA, which has been rejected. Both Manager J and Jessica in the email.


By Chris Mitchell on reddit. I can't really imagine Jessica purposely reject a sponsorship for Boxer. Maybe i'm wrong, but it would not make sense to me.


She tried to get $90k transfer fee at this time for MMA - I could imagine that ..
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Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#2139
On October 24 2012 16:31 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:29 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:26 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:22 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:20 JAWS_ wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:16 Xiaopewpew wrote:
On October 24 2012 16:08 JAWS_ wrote:
And you can understand them calling him a Cancer and talked bad things of him from behind to other players?

MMA didn't fucked up the atmosphere, he used to get along with every player and still does.

And all the players are on MMA side, the ones that stated something at least, so instead of being logical and see that Jessica might have been the Drama queen we all know she is toward them we just belive all of them are MMA thugs? Just cause we all love Boxer? Even Boxer left the ship cause he could not handle his fiance Drama anymore (this stated by MMA), why is this so hard to belive?


By all the players you mean Crank and MMA? intesting that Slayers only has a roster of 2 players. Didnt know that before.


Also Alicia on his interviews and as far as I know it Ryung is still close friends with MMA.


Not sure how much value we should put on Alicia's interview. He was proven a liar in that one.

edit: ninjaed


And now lets try be logical again, at least you have other people backing each other.

If MMA was indeed a cancer and was the one to blame as Jessica said why didn't any other Slayer player came to talk on her behalf? Why didn't any other coach? Even Cella

All you have is a public figure veteran that was dealing with adults (they are not child) but totally unexperianced with such public image recording phone calls and saving e-mail that would back up her in the future, but that still doesn't backup the whole story.


Cella is backing Jessica the entire time...

edit: I'm getting slow.. ninja!



Maybe you need a weekend at Lelystad or Venray. You know, just to get used to speed again.

Edit: yeah, better answer in the middle of a spoilered quote by another person, god im tired.


Well, atleast I'm not the only one
GungraveHero2
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
October 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#2140
On October 24 2012 16:31 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 15:42 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:38 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:34 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:32 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:24 dongmydrum wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:20 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 15:17 lilsusie wrote:
KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
이것이 레이저사의 입장인지.. J매니져와 대화햇던 크리스의 입장인지 명확히 밝히세요 그럼 나도 준비를 할께요

Is this the perspective of Razer... or is it the opinion of Chris that Manager J has been talking to, please clarify. I will prepare.

1h KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
크리스..당신과 나는 새로운 스폰서쉅에 대해서 얘기하지 않고 J매니저와 얘기햇어요

Chris, you and I did not talk about a new sponsorship, you talked to Manager J

1h KimKaYeon ‏@SlayerS_Jessica
크리스가 얘기를 앞뒤 상황잘라먹고 하는거 같네요 제 기억과 이메일 확인 작업후 올릴께요 크리스.. 그럴 말할 자격 없을텐데요.. 모든게 연관이 잇다는걸 .. 제가 감춰주는게 있다는걸 이해 못하는군요. 전 그럼 확인 갑니다

It seems that Chris is cutting out the front and back of the story. I will post my memory [of this] and after checking my email once I'm done with work... You're not qualified to say things like that... everything is connected... You don't understand that I'm trying to hide something for you.. then I will go check now.

---

More or less. Sorry for the rough translation.

Why is she always always so aggressive with her tweets....and why is she again ambiguously saying MMA did something wrong by saying she is trying to hide something from chris...


in which part is she being ambiguous? and you can't fault her for being aggressive, i'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused me for doing something I've never done. From the beginning, she provided all the facts and the other side only gave assumptions. Not an iota of evidence has been out that disproves her story


Jessica's been the aggressor since the beginning. Everyone else is playing defender. Funny you said you'd go bat shit crazy if someone accused you of doing something.

How do you think MMA, Crank, Ryung, Alicia, and MC feel at the moment?


Did anybody come up with any proof that disproved Jessica's statement? Jessica was the victim from the beginning basically MMA and Crank thought she was guilty of embezzling their funds and now she's just defending herself.


She started this entire shitstorm. Everyone else only spoke up to defend themselves after she ran a whirlwind of blog posts, tweets, and other shenanigans. Of the players that spoke up, they at least said their piece, owned up to what they said they did, and apologized.

Jessica has done none of the sort.


Of course she could've quietly gone away without saying anything, but why should you expect her to do that? that was her team and her whole team was ravaged by a shady manager and ESF's decision to isolate them. do you think J's or ESF's decision was right? what is wrong with telling the truth and exposing wrongs that were done to her team?

But she's doing it in a way that is hurting players like MMA, Ryung, etc; these players had NO wrong period.


lol no wrong , maybe they got what they deserve , dont you think ?
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