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Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
October 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#201
On October 19 2012 22:23 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 21:27 redviper wrote:
Man I am really beginning to dislike Slayers. Well ex-Slayers and particularly Jessica. She is basically leaving a trail of tears behind her.



If someone did something horrible to you and those you care for would you stay quiet about it?


From what i heard from multiple SlayerS players, she didnt really care for all of them, only the ones who were active in GSTL, players like Alicia who didnt play very much teamleague, felt misstreated and left out due a huge gap in the amount of attention given through pr and tournaments.

Also the SlayerS players were not even payed a saliry, and in some talkshow that was joined by Genna Bain, she explained why Axiom decided to pick up CranK... and im not going to explain the entire reason, but in short: CranK explained that when he was in SlayerS, he did not even get to live in the teamhouse because they didnt have room, so instead he had to sleep on the floor at a friends apartment, and go to the teamhouse to practise... and unless he yielded good results at online tournaments / GSL, he wouldnt have money to pay for food.

tl:dr - Dont start cheering for jessica just yet, there is still alot of players running around saying that SlayerS were treating some of them like slaves and that there were a huge gap between how the players were treated.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
October 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#202
slayers & kespa fighting~
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 14:51:57
October 19 2012 14:50 GMT
#203
Now that Jessica and Boxer got some credibility back, it should fix some of the misunderstanding they had with some players within SlayerS.
MMA and Crank statement better be perfectly prepared because it's going to be hard to justify their decisions.

Also we still don't know what happened to this slayers coach who tried to recruit players behind Jessica's back.
This guy should at least be kicked out of e-sports.

When everyone realized it was all misunderstanding the team will get together again, stronger than ever. One can dream...
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 14:53:17
October 19 2012 14:52 GMT
#204
Anybody still think Jessica is totally wrong in this case? This gives Jessica's statements a lot of credibility.
Snugles
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom35 Posts
October 19 2012 14:55 GMT
#205
People being honest is good. It shows we can move on from this mess with slayers and hopefully make sure it doesnt happen again.
My life for eSports!
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
October 19 2012 14:59 GMT
#206
Wow everything is all tied together with this drama T_T Still sucks about everything that happened with SlayerS. I hope the ESF can regroup and improve on everything for the future!
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 15:00 GMT
#207
On October 19 2012 23:52 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Anybody still think Jessica is totally wrong in this case? This gives Jessica's statements a lot of credibility.


I don't think many people (I'm sure there are) think Jessica is totally wrong. At least I think she is right in a lot of issues with ESF, just incompetent. FXO had issues with them and went public early and get it solved. TSL had more problems with them and quietly rebuilt one of the strongest team. That says competency. What Jessica was / is doing does not really say that.

Also what leave me a bad taste is how Jessica threw Slayers players under a bus, even taking swipes at Ganzi and Taeja. Any responsible organization would said "We had our difficulties and we are sad that things did not work out. We wish the best for everyone" instead of publishing all players' problems, most of which are petty issues that naturally occur when young people live together in a high pressure competitive environment, and issues that are responsibility of the team management to address and solve.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 19 2012 15:03 GMT
#208
gaiz this is just a part of a bigger conspiracy for KeSPA to control the scene!!!
Writerptrk
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
October 19 2012 15:08 GMT
#209
On October 20 2012 00:03 ArvickHero wrote:
gaiz this is just a part of a bigger conspiracy for KeSPA to control the scene!!!


Go KeSPA! SKT and KT controls KeSPA I guess.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 19 2012 15:10 GMT
#210
On October 20 2012 00:08 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 00:03 ArvickHero wrote:
gaiz this is just a part of a bigger conspiracy for KeSPA to control the scene!!!


Go KeSPA! SKT and KT controls KeSPA I guess.

Your name becomes less relevant everyday
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
October 19 2012 15:14 GMT
#211
It's amazing that Slayers imploded because of internal fighting and Jessica supposedly giving full sponsor control to some random dude, but she's managed to completely shift everyone away from that by slinging poo at the ESF.
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
October 19 2012 15:21 GMT
#212
On October 19 2012 18:27 TeeTS wrote:
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On October 19 2012 18:17 silent_owl wrote:
Jessica-haters proven wrong. I knew it. Good for Boxer and Jessica, justice prevails.


haha you don't know how this world works, do you? He stepped down, because of the pressure that ignorant fans put on him, believing everything they are said first without thinking "what?" and "why?". He is a scapegoat to calm down the athmosphere, nothing more nothing less. This proves nothing, especially not justice. But yeah, live on in your shiny world of good and bad!


No. He apologized to Slayers and Jessica for the things he did to them. WHY WOULD HE APOLOGIZED TO THEM IF HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 19 2012 15:22 GMT
#213
Makes you wonder about kespa boycott now.
starleague forever
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
October 19 2012 15:23 GMT
#214
On October 19 2012 23:44 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 22:23 Dionyseus wrote:
On October 19 2012 21:27 redviper wrote:
Man I am really beginning to dislike Slayers. Well ex-Slayers and particularly Jessica. She is basically leaving a trail of tears behind her.



If someone did something horrible to you and those you care for would you stay quiet about it?


From what i heard from multiple SlayerS players, she didnt really care for all of them, only the ones who were active in GSTL, players like Alicia who didnt play very much teamleague, felt misstreated and left out due a huge gap in the amount of attention given through pr and tournaments.


Wait you talk to SlayerS players regularly or where are you getting this from because I'd like to read.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 19 2012 15:25 GMT
#215
Starcraft is really molting here isn't it... it's going to be bare, and without a shell for awhile. But once the new one grows in its place we will be much more comfortable with the evolved scene. We may even be able to move forwards!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 15:27 GMT
#216
On October 20 2012 00:23 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 23:44 Fizzy wrote:
On October 19 2012 22:23 Dionyseus wrote:
On October 19 2012 21:27 redviper wrote:
Man I am really beginning to dislike Slayers. Well ex-Slayers and particularly Jessica. She is basically leaving a trail of tears behind her.



If someone did something horrible to you and those you care for would you stay quiet about it?


From what i heard from multiple SlayerS players, she didnt really care for all of them, only the ones who were active in GSTL, players like Alicia who didnt play very much teamleague, felt misstreated and left out due a huge gap in the amount of attention given through pr and tournaments.


Wait you talk to SlayerS players regularly or where are you getting this from because I'd like to read.


I think he is basing on Alicia's comment which should take with a big grin of salt.
But I also think there is no excuse for her to throw players under a bus like that, no matter what difficulties they had, if she really cared about them.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 19 2012 15:32 GMT
#217
You just showed a weak position Mr. Won with this thus you don't really have a choice.

This is becoming more and more a joke, which is sad and pathetic in the same breath.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
October 19 2012 15:32 GMT
#218
I believe this is the right action that needed to take place. Good to see people admit their mistakes, but it sucks that it couldn't be solved before it tore apart Slayers.
I honestly feel horrible for Jessica and Boxer.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
October 19 2012 15:33 GMT
#219
I guess kespa not so bad lmao
dumchu
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 15:38 GMT
#220
On October 20 2012 00:33 malady wrote:
I guess kespa not so bad lmao


I expect any business entity to behave shady like that really. The difference is that ESF is more foreign friendly.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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