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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 21 2012 17:18 GMT
#3721
On October 22 2012 02:13 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 01:57 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 01:37 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On October 21 2012 21:29 megacrack wrote:
this is somewhat of a translation i did of that jessicas statement.. even though it in a rough form, it will give u somewhat to read over till someone do a professional translating:

im current in Thailand filming with a deadly schedule.
i really wanted to forget and rest
but you dont let me be.
i saw what cranks team had to say.
1.you said you were going to prove that what i wrote in the initial statement was wrong. you have to specify where i got it wrong and you have to prove to your best of abilities.
2. you heard cranks point of view and posted a statement (recording) based on his view, if you didnt do proper research on what is truth and what is wrong and just posted that up, you got to be ready for your consequences.
like the trickster, fruitdealer incident where the team only listened to their players for example.
3.while im at thailand working i double checked the recording between crank, boxer and i that goes for 57 minutes and 48 seconds.
if axiom does not provide proper evidence and keep on pushing that crank is in the wrong, i will provide this recording in front of media, myself and coach cella. if i only small portion of the recording, there maybe people thinking that it may be manipulated, so i will provide the whole file.
4. ill tell you this story has crank and 3 other people involved, truthfully, even the parts that i do not want to show because of the good bond and bad bond ( korean saying) that we had before, will be shown. so for the other people involved i want you to think carefully.
5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously.

i will make sure and as soon as i arrive to korea i will start planning..
i will arrive in korea on monday 8:10am and have another shooting at 10am so i will finish late at night.
i will make adjustments with the journalists for time schduling .
i want to forget everything and forgive, but people cannot see this.
im not doing this because i want to do thi, but im doing the way crank wants it to be.

to whoever can translate this, please send it to cranks team

This is taken from TotalBiscuit's blog...Man this can't be good....like dayum she seems to just have everything she needs...


Wow if that's actually true, I'm starting to really hate jessica. She has recordings and logs of anything? She's sounding like she's just paranoid and wants to pick fights with everyone and shit on Esports now that she's done in it.


Right. If she posts stuff without proof, she's a paranoid b*** making stuff up. If she posts proof of things, she's a paranoid b*** who just wants to shit on eSports. Good to see people being objective!


Well I mean... what formats of proof can the sides provide beyond a timeline of events? If you just look at the time line of events the only things that matter are the events that occured, ESF suggesting SlayerS boycott NASL, Ganzi joining SlayerS, ESF barring SlayerS from practice, these players leaving / streaming on their own, and SlayerS dissolving. All that these conversations can resolve is the causality and justifying these actions.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 21 2012 17:21 GMT
#3722
TB asking for proof, he's gonna have 57 minutes and 48 seconds of proof hue hue hue
RIP KT.Violet
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 21 2012 17:21 GMT
#3723
I guess Jessica has experience in the entertainment industry and how she needs proof against naysayers...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:22 GMT
#3724
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 21 2012 17:24 GMT
#3725
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 21 2012 17:27 GMT
#3726
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 21 2012 17:29 GMT
#3727
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


But EG have multiple of other players in their roster. InControl, IdrA are very marketable whereas Axiom have only CranK on their roster so far, and having 100% of your roster with bad reps is definitely not something sponsors would want to see in their investment.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 21 2012 17:29 GMT
#3728
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.

Pretty sure Jessica won't be hanging out in the SC2 scene after this. Quite sure she's just leaving with a bang. But honestly, some of these players are getting seriously damaged. Alicia's rep in Korea was blown into smithereans. Even MC had to publicly address the issues with Jessica. And now Crank.....and possibly MMA? If you want Korean support, you have to win over Korean netizens. That being said, being a total baller and winning tournaments works equally well.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#3729
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#3730
What I somehow miss in Crank's statement is a mention of the accusation that he lied to get off the team.
(From Jessica):
"Cella told me that Crank had told him he was quitting the game. I asked Crank why he didn't tell me directly, and he said he just really wanted to rest, and that he had no thoughts of joining a foreign team or any other team, and to please just let him go. I had no thoughts of stopping him from leaving, so I agreed to allow him to leave SlayerS."

In his statement he completely ignores how he got off the team - only that he talked to Boxer once about that nothing changes. There seems to be something missing there.
Also is Boxer the guy who you talk to when you really leave the team? Isnt that the manager, Jessica?
I just feel he completely dodges the content of the conversation between him and Jessica - where she states that he lied.

+ Show Spoiler [Crank] +
That's why I asked to go home, and leave the team, because nothing seemed to change for the better. Regarding this, I've talked to Boxer about it privately, and Boxer said, in that conversation, that he admits, and recognises, his fault. I made it a point to tell him that it was not about the money, or about going to a better team, because I did not want any misunderstandings when I left. But Jessica continually would not recognise her own mistakes, and made me out to be the bad guy who abandoned the team to survive on his own. Once I left the team , [...]
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:32 GMT
#3731
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


Lol, I think you are over romaticizing S Korea. I really doubt EG's sponsors care about Korean market. They support them for the NA/EU fan base. Teams like TSM, CLG for LoL got a lot of issues with Korean fans because they accused the AZUBU teams of cheating at the season 2 championships. Do you think their sponsors will pull out? How many Idra fans do you think are in S Korea?
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 21 2012 17:33 GMT
#3732
On October 22 2012 02:29 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


But EG have multiple of other players in their roster. InControl, IdrA are very marketable whereas Axiom have only CranK on their roster so far, and having 100% of your roster with bad reps is definitely not something sponsors would want to see in their investment.


They also have ryung, but I suppose you do have a point with that, both of their players so far rely on the korean scene which will most likely not be happy with them due to them being obliged to believe jessica because she's the girlfriend of boxer.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:34 GMT
#3733
On October 22 2012 02:29 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


But EG have multiple of other players in their roster. InControl, IdrA are very marketable whereas Axiom have only CranK on their roster so far, and having 100% of your roster with bad reps is definitely not something sponsors would want to see in their investment.


You think InControl has a big fanbase in S Korea? Really?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 21 2012 17:35 GMT
#3734
On October 22 2012 02:32 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


Lol, I think you are over romaticizing S Korea. I really doubt EG's sponsors care about Korean market. They support them for the NA/EU fan base. Teams like TSM, CLG for LoL got a lot of issues with Korean fans because they accused the AZUBU teams of cheating at the season 2 championships. Do you think their sponsors will pull out? How many Idra fans do you think are in S Korea?


what, the knetizens know Azubu "cheated" but it was only that one player Woong who has a bad reputation anyway and he gets a lot of shit and they want him to retire.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:37 GMT
#3735
On October 22 2012 02:30 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off


So you are making a general statement that Korean men treat Korean women poorly? That is like saying the French are lazy.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:38 GMT
#3736
On October 22 2012 02:35 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:32 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


Lol, I think you are over romaticizing S Korea. I really doubt EG's sponsors care about Korean market. They support them for the NA/EU fan base. Teams like TSM, CLG for LoL got a lot of issues with Korean fans because they accused the AZUBU teams of cheating at the season 2 championships. Do you think their sponsors will pull out? How many Idra fans do you think are in S Korea?


what, the knetizens know Azubu "cheated" but it was only that one player Woong who has a bad reputation anyway and he gets a lot of shit and they want him to retire.


But Knetizen also had evidence that TSM themselves were looking at the minimap.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 17:42:03
October 21 2012 17:39 GMT
#3737
On October 22 2012 02:37 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:30 Boonbag wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off


So you are making a general statement that Korean men treat Korean women poorly? That is like saying the French are lazy.


I lived there for some time while ago and it was pretty sad to witness.

edit : back then at night, seeing a man randomly beat up his gf in middle of the street wasn't so uncommon
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#3738
On October 22 2012 02:39 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:37 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:30 Boonbag wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off


So you are making a general statement that Korean men treat Korean women poorly? That is like saying the French are lazy.


I lived there for some time while ago and it was pretty sad to witness.


Different countries with have different standards. I am sure most people would view the French with their 35 hr work week and many vacation dates to be lazy as well.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#3739
On October 22 2012 02:39 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:37 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:30 Boonbag wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off


So you are making a general statement that Korean men treat Korean women poorly? That is like saying the French are lazy.


I lived there for some time while ago and it was pretty sad to witness.

edit : back then at night, seeing a man randomly beat up his gf in middle of the street wasn't so uncommon


Treating women badly and beating them up is not the same. One is cultural, the other is f'd up.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#3740
On October 22 2012 02:43 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:39 Boonbag wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:37 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:30 Boonbag wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:24 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:22 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:14 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:10 Linoge20 wrote:
"5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously."

Thats a threat, she has power, he doesn't. Its a power play, she wants him to shut up and take it. If he doesn't she will ruin him. If he wasn't in TB's team his career would be over, luckily he is in the team.



Axiom gaming also will take a massive PR hit from this incident with CranK being the sole player on the team. S.Korean might never support the team in any way. Any misstep by them will have a catastrophic repercussion.


Well, I don't think foreign teams really need S Korean fan support that much. EG, Liquid etc are big teams due to foreigner support, no S Korea support.


But they at least have good PR from Korea. The team might not get any fans in the capital sanctuary of esport. And when that happens, sponsors won't be happy with the team and decide to pull out. EG and Liquid have great reps there and that's a selling point for sponsors.


And picking up puma was supposed to be the same kind of Pr suicide too yet EG was fine. Axiom will be just fine, despite what naysayers say. I'm sure after all this shit ends most sensible people won't blindly support jessica anyway as it's becoming quite apparent that she wasn't just wronged by every person in korea like she likes to pretend she was.


actually she couldve been
men act really bad towards women over there
not to the mention the fact she's sort of a TV celeb might piss em off


So you are making a general statement that Korean men treat Korean women poorly? That is like saying the French are lazy.


I lived there for some time while ago and it was pretty sad to witness.


Different countries with have different standards. I am sure most people would view the French with their 35 hr work week and many vacation dates to be lazy as well.


lol are you seriously arguing about the legal worktime in france ? (which you obviously don't know much about)
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