Slayers to disband - Page 156

On October 20 2012 03:01 HolydaKing wrote:

I'm sure he is, if he is mad on Jessica or not i have no idea. Probably a bit too, you can see in his rant he doesn't like the way she is publicizing stuff now and not directly.

On October 20 2012 02:59 Swords wrote:
Regardless of Boss's role in all this, I feel like he's totally right when he calls out Slayers for not bringing this to people's attention when the team still existed. Why would you wait until your team is disbanded to say this stuff? It feels like Jessica bottled all of this up and now that Slayers is dead she wants to take the whole scene down with her.

It's tragic in so many ways. We could still have Slayers and a less corrupt eSF had she spoken up sooner. She seems like a fairly smart person, and obviously knows how having fans works in terms of support. I don't get why she didn't talk about the boycott when it started happening - which was a long time ago!

On October 20 2012 03:05 Shival wrote:


Yeah, ok, he probably is. I just find it strange he couldn't think of the reason why Jessica only now reveals the controversy. It's the exact same reason he's stating in his rant. It looks bad on the SC2 community and it's organizations.

On October 20 2012 03:06 Kazeyonoma wrote:
lets be clear hear,
fxo boss was NOT aware of the practice ban, and is PISSED that fxo took part of it.

On October 20 2012 03:09 farnham wrote:

thats what he is saying

jessica gave him a hint over twitter on august the 16th

if he didnt investigate after that, that was gross negligence by him

On October 19 2012 12:20 RenSC2 wrote:

By "dump a ton of money on a teenager", did you mean, "pay them $0"? Because they were all paid $0 by their team. They did get food, housing, and (usually) transportation covered. Along with that, in their contracts, SlayerS was actually supposed to get a portion of all their players' tournament winnings. Supposedly, they never actually took any. I believe they were also prevented from streaming pretty early on which cut off one of their only abilities to make some income. If MMA would have signed with a foreign team at his peak, he'd have at least 10s of thousands of dollars more than he currently has and potentially 100s of thousands if he could hit a sweet deal with a team like EG.

Instead, the players made tournament winnings and nothing else even when the team had an approximately half million dollar Intel deal. They put in 40+ hours a week for more than a year to be some of the most elite people in their profession and only in a few cases are they walking away with more than minimum wage. Many of the less successful players are walking away with less than $1000 total. Does that sound like they've been spoiled?

MMA called it a slave contract for a reason. Boxer may not have had all the food/housing support when he started, but he wasn't contractually bound to a team he didn't want to play for that was paying him $0. And nobody was charging $90,000 to get Boxer out of a contract that paid him $0.

On October 20 2012 03:07 ragz_gt wrote:


If you remember BoSs went ballistic in public before and got his stuff straightened out. I think he would rather Jessica go public early to solve the problems instead of going public after its too late and set fire to everything.

On October 20 2012 03:11 Kazeyonoma wrote:


oh? can you link me, thanks farnham, i respect fxoboss, so i assume he's being honest but it's possible he did overlook a tweet from her.

On October 20 2012 03:11 Shival wrote:


No, I think he would've rather liked Jessica to try and solve the issues privately before going public. Which she did. Going public, in light of the fragility of the scene and it's finances largely comming from sponsors and investors, should be a last resort.

On October 20 2012 03:13 ragz_gt wrote:


She didn't use it as a last resort though. She used it as an after the fact resort.

On October 20 2012 03:13 ragz_gt wrote:


She didn't use it as a last resort though. She used it as an after the fact resort.

On October 20 2012 03:13 ragz_gt wrote:


She didn't use it as a last resort though. She used it as an after the fact resort.

On October 19 2012 13:28 masterbreti wrote:


Well first you have to look at buying a Van for the players, and seeing the SlayerS van itself, it would cost them a pretty penny, maybe 20-30,000 if you buy used or on a huge sale. Then renting a apartment, in a rich area where they were. It would be maybe 8-10k a month (not sure 100% on this, but I've seen smaller apartments go for around that price, in lesser areas of seoul too) and a maybe 5k security deposit

food is maybe 100-200 a week, depepnding on where you go shopping and what they want to eat.

Having to pay a maid to come and cook and clean for them would be around 300 a week (never had to hire a maid, so again, not sure on this, might be or less)

Not you are looking at Hydro, water, heating, electric, and other such costs for 10 men. So maybe 2-3k a month.


So lets tally the first months costs, nevermind stuff like uniforms, computers, or any of that stuff.

9000+5000+30000+1200+1000+3000= 49 200 dollars for the first month

Now assmuing nothing changes and they don't need new uniforms or new computers or anything apart from rent and their regular bills.

9000+1200+1000+3000= 14 200 a month

now SlayerS was formed in December 2010, so lets caculate the costs from Janurary 2011 until November 2012 (when the team is disbanding.

14200x21= 298 200 in base costs. Now lets add the first months startup costs of 49200 and we get 349 000 roughly.

Now this is just base costs, This doesn't inculde things like going out to eat, transit for players to international events (which costs a lot of money). having to buy new uniforms, or registration fees for tournaments. Or anything of that sort. Assuming nothing ever breaks or nothin new ever needs to be bought ever. For the team house alone and to cover the players expenses. It would be about 350k. Remember, this doesn't cover Boxer or Jessica's apartment or their own personal costs. This is just for the players. Mind you also I am lowballing everything here, and likely it is much more expensive.

Running a team and a teamhouse isn't cheap. The players in korea all know this and most of them don't complain, I know while I was in the prime house, none of the players ever complained about the team.

I thinkthe Manager who came in around november/december 2011 and left around Janurary of this year really made things worse. All the sponsors basically dropped SlayerS because of this guy and finally he was removed from the team. After that money was tight for SlayerS and so they had to cur corners, which made the Already unhappy MMA angry, he started to spread rumors (the same that manager J told) and the environment turned ugly from then on.

If manager J hadn't come along and screw around with SlayerS, we would have a different result here. and SlayerS would likely still be the most wealthy team around. But this manager really fucked with the atmosphere and made everyone turn against each other.

On October 20 2012 03:14 lambac0re wrote:

How do you know what she did or didn't do in private? Evidence?

On October 20 2012 03:16 blamekilly wrote:


Can probably add a little more to the rent since SlayerS rented an apartment for training AND another apartment next door for living...... these guys were spoiled, MAJORLY. name another Korean team that was treated this good.

On October 20 2012 03:14 lambac0re wrote:

How do you know what she did or didn't do in private? Evidence?

On October 20 2012 03:15 Shival wrote:


That's pretty much the same. Maybe they were still busy behind the scenes when they lost all confidence, and thus disbanded.

On October 20 2012 03:12 farnham wrote:

i already posted it above

https://twitter.com/SlayerS_Jessica/status/236016857348448256

On October 20 2012 03:18 ragz_gt wrote:


Then why did she make the decision to disband before going public? It might be able to save the team if she didn't end it already. And if it did not help, it's not like it can be any worse than it is now.