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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 17:30 GMT
#3061
On October 20 2012 02:22 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

I don't even know if it was bullying, there are plenty people who would see this as normal between friends. Maybe less in Asia, but at least Genius and MC look like pretty easygoing people. I also don't think it's cool to say such things, but maybe it's normal between them? Then there is no problem except that Jessica leaked it.

Now that it's public he of course has to apologise, seeing how rampant some of the Korean netizens are.


Most people seem to miss the largest conclusion you can make of this entire conversation and screenshot of MC trashtalking.

Jessica's accusation of largescale bullying is being proven. MC apologised specifically on calling Genius out on being "Slayers trash". The same quote that Jessica used earlier in her very first post on why Slayers disbanded. The fact that MC used this exact quote (as a joke or not), and now specifically apologises for it, tells us that it's been used before and players know it's being used by others.


The other possibility is Jessica based the whole Slayers Trash thing on this screenshot.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 19 2012 17:30 GMT
#3062
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.

Not saying that at all. Merely saying it could have been brought to her attention many ways that don't include Genius crying to her about it.
Again in my eyes MC gets the benefit of the doubt. He is known as being extremely friendly/nice guy. Meanwhile Jessica is known for causing and starting stupid drama.

Unless Genius comes out and states he was very offended and reported it to Jessica I'm taking MC's side. But that's just me.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 19 2012 17:32 GMT
#3063
On October 20 2012 02:12 JSy wrote:
* [...] You only say what you want and making it so I end up looking like the bad guy. Doing this over Twitter doesn't seem appropriate. Anyone can see that you are trying to publicly shame, vilify others into apologizing to you. I'm glad you're getting your way.


Boom-CHICK

*clap*
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 19 2012 17:32 GMT
#3064
I'm getting depressed by all this drama. From what I saw from MC's personality I cannot believe he'd say something like this in earnest to insult. So either Jessica is a liar or MC is in truth an evil actor. I know what I believe.
Get off my lawn, young punks
lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
October 19 2012 17:32 GMT
#3065
On October 20 2012 02:30 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.


You would be surprised on how far Jessica would go . . .

The fact that you would even insinuate this is absurd. Do you have any idea how many games pro gamers play per day with each game averaging 10 min+?
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 19 2012 17:33 GMT
#3066
On October 20 2012 02:29 vthree wrote:
And if the bullying was serious, shouldn't Jessica have air this out a lot sooner? Remember these are teenagers and serious bullying can affect them a lot and should be stopped right away. Why is Jessica only making this public now? And only to explain why Slayers are disbanding. Seems trying to save face and lay the blame on others rather than really caring about her players.


How do you know that she didn't try to stop it earlier?

She may very well have tried to stop it through other channels than she is now, more private channels. Which wouldn't have hurt eSports as it is doing now. To me that seems like a logical first step, bringing it out in the open seems like a last resort that she has chosen after exhausting other options.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:35:13
October 19 2012 17:34 GMT
#3067
On October 20 2012 02:33 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:29 vthree wrote:
And if the bullying was serious, shouldn't Jessica have air this out a lot sooner? Remember these are teenagers and serious bullying can affect them a lot and should be stopped right away. Why is Jessica only making this public now? And only to explain why Slayers are disbanding. Seems trying to save face and lay the blame on others rather than really caring about her players.


How do you know that she didn't try to stop it earlier?

She may very well have tried to stop it through other channels than she is now, more private channels. Which wouldn't have hurt eSports as it is doing now. To me that seems like a logical first step, bringing it out in the open seems like a last resort that she has chosen after exhausting other options.


So she is putting eSports ahead of teenagers' mental health? That IS my point. If bullying was serious, it should be the TOP priorty. Not damn eSports...
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 19 2012 17:34 GMT
#3068
On October 20 2012 02:32 lambac0re wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:30 Disengaged wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.


You would be surprised on how far Jessica would go . . .

The fact that you would even insinuate this is absurd. Do you have any idea how many games pro gamers play per day with each game averaging 10 min+?


Indeed I do.

Also, in replays, its called fast forward.
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#3069
On October 20 2012 02:30 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:22 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

I don't even know if it was bullying, there are plenty people who would see this as normal between friends. Maybe less in Asia, but at least Genius and MC look like pretty easygoing people. I also don't think it's cool to say such things, but maybe it's normal between them? Then there is no problem except that Jessica leaked it.

Now that it's public he of course has to apologise, seeing how rampant some of the Korean netizens are.


Most people seem to miss the largest conclusion you can make of this entire conversation and screenshot of MC trashtalking.

Jessica's accusation of largescale bullying is being proven. MC apologised specifically on calling Genius out on being "Slayers trash". The same quote that Jessica used earlier in her very first post on why Slayers disbanded. The fact that MC used this exact quote (as a joke or not), and now specifically apologises for it, tells us that it's been used before and players know it's being used by others.


The other possibility is Jessica based the whole Slayers Trash thing on this screenshot.


No, because then MC wouldn't have specifically apologised for that. It apperantly has a very bad stigma, alot more than what you would normally view that quote as. Why apologise for specifically that quote, moreso than the 'your momma' insult?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#3070
On October 20 2012 02:33 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:29 vthree wrote:
And if the bullying was serious, shouldn't Jessica have air this out a lot sooner? Remember these are teenagers and serious bullying can affect them a lot and should be stopped right away. Why is Jessica only making this public now? And only to explain why Slayers are disbanding. Seems trying to save face and lay the blame on others rather than really caring about her players.


How do you know that she didn't try to stop it earlier?

She may very well have tried to stop it through other channels than she is now, more private channels. Which wouldn't have hurt eSports as it is doing now. To me that seems like a logical first step, bringing it out in the open seems like a last resort that she has chosen after exhausting other options.

Well according to MC she never confronted him in private ever before about this... so apparently going public against him was the first option.

That's not to say that she didn't try in private with other teams/players etc. Just showing it's not always her first option.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#3071
On October 20 2012 02:32 ACrow wrote:
I'm getting depressed by all this drama. From what I saw from MC's personality I cannot believe he'd say something like this in earnest to insult. So either Jessica is a liar or MC is in truth an evil actor. I know what I believe.


I wouldn't call Jessica a liar since MC obviously said that and he can be more professional. It's possible that she couldn't take a joke and blows things out of proportion, but she didn't really lie.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:39:00
October 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#3072
On October 20 2012 02:30 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:22 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

I don't even know if it was bullying, there are plenty people who would see this as normal between friends. Maybe less in Asia, but at least Genius and MC look like pretty easygoing people. I also don't think it's cool to say such things, but maybe it's normal between them? Then there is no problem except that Jessica leaked it.

Now that it's public he of course has to apologise, seeing how rampant some of the Korean netizens are.


Most people seem to miss the largest conclusion you can make of this entire conversation and screenshot of MC trashtalking.

Jessica's accusation of largescale bullying is being proven. MC apologised specifically on calling Genius out on being "Slayers trash". The same quote that Jessica used earlier in her very first post on why Slayers disbanded. The fact that MC used this exact quote (as a joke or not), and now specifically apologises for it, tells us that it's been used before and players know it's being used by others.


The other possibility is Jessica based the whole Slayers Trash thing on this screenshot.

How stupid would you have to be to base your entire argument on that one screenshot...or is that what you're trying to say?
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#3073
On October 20 2012 02:34 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:33 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:29 vthree wrote:
And if the bullying was serious, shouldn't Jessica have air this out a lot sooner? Remember these are teenagers and serious bullying can affect them a lot and should be stopped right away. Why is Jessica only making this public now? And only to explain why Slayers are disbanding. Seems trying to save face and lay the blame on others rather than really caring about her players.


How do you know that she didn't try to stop it earlier?

She may very well have tried to stop it through other channels than she is now, more private channels. Which wouldn't have hurt eSports as it is doing now. To me that seems like a logical first step, bringing it out in the open seems like a last resort that she has chosen after exhausting other options.


So she is putting eSports ahead of teenagers' mental health? That IS my point. If bullying was serious, it should be the TOP priorty. Not damn eSports...


I wasn't saying anything of the sort. She was probably trying to help their players, while trying to damage eSport the least, which in the end didn't work out.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#3074
On October 20 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:30 ragz_gt wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:22 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

I don't even know if it was bullying, there are plenty people who would see this as normal between friends. Maybe less in Asia, but at least Genius and MC look like pretty easygoing people. I also don't think it's cool to say such things, but maybe it's normal between them? Then there is no problem except that Jessica leaked it.

Now that it's public he of course has to apologise, seeing how rampant some of the Korean netizens are.


Most people seem to miss the largest conclusion you can make of this entire conversation and screenshot of MC trashtalking.

Jessica's accusation of largescale bullying is being proven. MC apologised specifically on calling Genius out on being "Slayers trash". The same quote that Jessica used earlier in her very first post on why Slayers disbanded. The fact that MC used this exact quote (as a joke or not), and now specifically apologises for it, tells us that it's been used before and players know it's being used by others.


The other possibility is Jessica based the whole Slayers Trash thing on this screenshot.


No, because then MC wouldn't have specifically apologised for that. It apperantly has a very bad stigma, alot more than what you would normally view that quote as. Why apologise for specifically that quote, moreso than the 'your momma' insult?

You're assuming MC's apology was actually sincere... Which I don't think it was judging by his last tweet about her wanting to vilify everyone and make them public apologize to her and that he is glad she is getting her way.....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:38:49
October 19 2012 17:37 GMT
#3075
On October 20 2012 02:32 ACrow wrote:
I'm getting depressed by all this drama. From what I saw from MC's personality I cannot believe he'd say something like this in earnest to insult. So either Jessica is a liar or MC is in truth an evil actor. I know what I believe.


Not necessarily. It could be that MC is completely truthful in saying the comments were made in jest... but still done poorly. Take for example you have in your head the most amusing racial joke and you to tell it your friend and he gets offended.. your intentions aren't to be hateful but the results are same.

I think given the tension involved in all things Slayers, MC could have exercised a lot more caution, but this whole thing isn't serious enough that a simple apology (which he gave) won't solve.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2012 17:37 GMT
#3076
On October 20 2012 02:34 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:32 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:30 Disengaged wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.


You would be surprised on how far Jessica would go . . .

The fact that you would even insinuate this is absurd. Do you have any idea how many games pro gamers play per day with each game averaging 10 min+?


Indeed I do.

Also, in replays, its called fast forward.


The story is that Boxer saw it live and told Jessica about it, so she didn't need to go through every replay.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#3077
On October 20 2012 02:32 ACrow wrote:
I'm getting depressed by all this drama. From what I saw from MC's personality I cannot believe he'd say something like this in earnest to insult. So either Jessica is a liar or MC is in truth an evil actor. I know what I believe.


I think it's somewhere inbetween.

we know how MC is, but it's mostly for show and because he's more 'western' in his personality (hence his widespread love in the western cultures too) and while he was harsh, he was big enough to admit apologies for saying "SlayerS trash" but he didn't mean it that way, it was just a joke to tell his friend (genius) to gtfo out of his practice game, since Genius was on team SlayerS.

Jessica, while not a liar, tends to overreact to harsh treatment towards her own players (see eve and cyber bullying, and her past history of, while somewhat justified, overreactions). What probably happened was that boxer, or jessica, saw that message on genius' screen and thought omg wtf, why are they treating our members with disrespect and saying things like slayers Trash! and genius was probably like 'nah it's cool', and jessica was like 'OMG NO ITS NOT, SCREENSHOT IT, more proof of bullying!'

I think MC didn't mean what he said, and has in turn apologized for it, but wants people to understand the use that jessica is taking with the screenshot is out of context. Jessica on the other hand, while not trying to LIE, is so narrowminded about her 'protect slayers at all costs', has lost sight, at least of this situation, and blew it out of proportion. k?

so

~ESF boycotting slayers - confirmed true, coach won claims it was short ban only, MC confirms that the ban was longer than just 2 weeks, jessica presents emails showing some sort of proof of it being longer, coach won steps down as head of esf.

~crank/alica issues - confirmed to at least not be unheard of since crank did ditch gstl, and there was some mention of him missing out on it because of injury, only to stream/end up joining foreign team, and alicia, confirmed not recognizing obvious care/concern/congrats from team management, and being overall diva'ish. statement released by alicia, reveals he's not 100% absolved from guilt, awaiting crank statement.

~mma issues - still unknown, we know that outrageous transfer fee was initially asked for his trade, but later removed to promote his want to leave team. context unknown of $90k request, as well as timing. awaiting statement.

~'slayers trash' confirmed to be MC, tweets recently showing the above summary.

~manager J - confirmed sleezy person in the industry, so far has been claimed to lie about jessica embezzling money, and incite internal chaos. still awaiting confirmation/statements regarding more on him.

did i miss anything?
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#3078
On October 20 2012 02:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:30 ragz_gt wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:22 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

I don't even know if it was bullying, there are plenty people who would see this as normal between friends. Maybe less in Asia, but at least Genius and MC look like pretty easygoing people. I also don't think it's cool to say such things, but maybe it's normal between them? Then there is no problem except that Jessica leaked it.

Now that it's public he of course has to apologise, seeing how rampant some of the Korean netizens are.


Most people seem to miss the largest conclusion you can make of this entire conversation and screenshot of MC trashtalking.

Jessica's accusation of largescale bullying is being proven. MC apologised specifically on calling Genius out on being "Slayers trash". The same quote that Jessica used earlier in her very first post on why Slayers disbanded. The fact that MC used this exact quote (as a joke or not), and now specifically apologises for it, tells us that it's been used before and players know it's being used by others.


The other possibility is Jessica based the whole Slayers Trash thing on this screenshot.


No, because then MC wouldn't have specifically apologised for that. It apperantly has a very bad stigma, alot more than what you would normally view that quote as. Why apologise for specifically that quote, moreso than the 'your momma' insult?

You're assuming MC's apology was actually sincere... Which I don't think it was judging by his last tweet about her wanting to vilify everyone and make them public apologize to her and that he is glad she is getting her way.....


I do hope it is sincere yes, if it isn't.. isn't that another immature thing to do, especially so in light of recent events?

Well according to MC she never confronted him in private ever before about this... so apparently going public against him was the first option.

That's not to say that she didn't try in private with other teams/players etc. Just showing it's not always her first option.


You don't know how many players, or how often they've been namecalled. It would've been easier to go through coaches or managers than through all the players one by one.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:44:08
October 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#3079
On October 20 2012 02:37 ragz_gt wrote:
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On October 20 2012 02:34 Disengaged wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:32 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:30 Disengaged wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
[quote]
in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.


You would be surprised on how far Jessica would go . . .

The fact that you would even insinuate this is absurd. Do you have any idea how many games pro gamers play per day with each game averaging 10 min+?


Indeed I do.

Also, in replays, its called fast forward.


The story is that Boxer saw it live and told Jessica about it, so she didn't need to go through every replay.


Even if just Boxer got offended, Genius did not, it is still not OK for what MC said. He can call Genius trash, but Slayers trash is offensive to Boxer and the whole team.

lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:44:13
October 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#3080
On October 20 2012 02:34 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 02:32 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:30 Disengaged wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:24 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:21 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:08 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 20 2012 02:00 vthree wrote:
lol, no wonder no one wanted to practice with Slayers... You never know when your chat will be screenshot'ed

in the end this is right, lol.

or at least it sounds about right at the moment.

Of course nobody screenshots every conversation. But why wouldn't they screenshot in this case in the face of apparent bullying?

The whole point is MC is saying it was a joke between friends and Jessica is trying to use it as proof of bullying etc. Which maybe the Slayers players did get bullied but I don't see MC playing a big(Or any part) in it. As mentioned in his tweets he took care of the slayers players in oversea's tournies and from what every single person that has met him has said is a very nice/friendly guy.

So again I have to side with MC on this until 100% proven otherwise, in my eyes he has earned benefit of the doubt and Jessica hasn't....

So you think Jessica was just waiting behing Genius just looking for opportunities to screenshot MC? Honestly who do you think took the screenshot and showed it to Jessica? Why would they show it to Jessica?

The screenshot was from a replay....................

And? Are you saying Jessica is personlly going through every replay of every slayers player to look for evidence? Much more likely somebody else had taken offense and brought this to her attention.


You would be surprised on how far Jessica would go . . .

The fact that you would even insinuate this is absurd. Do you have any idea how many games pro gamers play per day with each game averaging 10 min+?


Indeed I do.

Also, in replays, its called fast forward.

No I don't think you do. If Jessica were to actually check every replay she would have little to no time for anything else even with fast forwarding. This is a moot point anyway since it was Boxer who brought it to Jessica's attention,
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