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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 10 2012 11:14 GMT
#201
What I don't understand is how players can stay on their team after everything that's been happening to Eclypsia. I'm curious to finding out what makes players like SjoW and Welmu stay...
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
October 10 2012 11:14 GMT
#202
On October 10 2012 17:26 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 17:24 CodeskyE wrote:

On October 10 2012 14:25 FXOBoSs wrote:
On October 10 2012 14:22 XERtirips wrote:
LOL

I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/

ok back on topic.

This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.<


Its based on your search cookies



loool sick build FXOBoSs




LOL it's like that guy who complained in feedback forum about getting porn sites in the ads.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but its actually just a compilation video which the title of "funny dog fails"(translated very loosely from French), which the thumbnail of which, is a picture of a dog mounting a woman (who is fully clothed) on all fours.
Now after that long justification, its going to sound like I'm really into dog fucking, but assure you otherwise.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
britneysbeers
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom22 Posts
October 10 2012 11:15 GMT
#203
On October 10 2012 20:07 phil.ipp wrote:
you could not find a hidden stream? are you trolling?

do you understand the meaning of the word "hidden"



No I am not trolling. I just don'y understand how a website is streaming content to my pc without me knowing it. Obviously I don't want content being streamed to my pc at work which might end up with me having temp files stored for example p0rn, which I know nothing about and can lose my job for.
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
October 10 2012 11:16 GMT
#204
eshara's business strategy always seems to be "fake it until you make it"

except they keep tripping up at the first stage.
my hair is a wookie, your argument is invalid
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
October 10 2012 11:26 GMT
#205
On October 10 2012 20:15 britneysbeers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 20:07 phil.ipp wrote:
you could not find a hidden stream? are you trolling?

do you understand the meaning of the word "hidden"



No I am not trolling. I just don'y understand how a website is streaming content to my pc without me knowing it. Obviously I don't want content being streamed to my pc at work which might end up with me having temp files stored for example p0rn, which I know nothing about and can lose my job for.

I think adblock and noscript should still catch it, but if it's from some legit site like twitch, you have no way to know it unless you are monitoring your traffic
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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
October 10 2012 11:33 GMT
#206
On October 10 2012 20:16 k!llua wrote:
eshara's business strategy always seems to be "fake it until you make it"

except they keep tripping up at the first stage.

Eclypsia =/= Absolute Legends
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#207
On October 10 2012 11:07 ian952 wrote:
I couldn't find Eclypsia's sponsors on their website...

They have not. The company who owns Eclypsia earns money with porn anyway : http://aaa.eu/news-21549-0-1-enquete_les_financements_adultes_d_eclypsia.html (in french, April 2012)
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Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 11:51:17
October 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#208
I doubt the people who go to these sites are the ones sponsors have as a target audience when they choose to sponsor a cybersports team. That's really my only concern for this method, because its all about numbers. If these viewers are 'ok' for the sponsors (as in the age group is good enough for them) then I don't see much of a problem for these teams in terms of sponsoring.

It's just a shame knowing the people who watch this stream aren't all actually there to watch some cybersportie entertainment.

Edit: Owner does porn it seems according to above post, so they won't give a damn about anything but the audience being male or of a certain age.
Rogue Deck
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 10 2012 11:59 GMT
#209
On October 10 2012 20:49 Desertfaux wrote:
I doubt the people who go to these sites are the ones sponsors have as a target audience when they choose to sponsor a cybersports team. That's really my only concern for this method, because its all about numbers. If these viewers are 'ok' for the sponsors (as in the age group is good enough for them) then I don't see much of a problem for these teams in terms of sponsoring.

It's just a shame knowing the people who watch this stream aren't all actually there to watch some cybersportie entertainment.

Edit: Owner does porn it seems according to above post, so they won't give a damn about anything but the audience being male or of a certain age.

If I understand correctly, Eclypsia is owned by a company which is part to a conglomerate of ~70 companies who do things like porn, advertising spaces selling, fiscal optimization and other things like that.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4550 Posts
October 10 2012 12:01 GMT
#210
The next step is to get Brazzers as a sponsor
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
October 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#211
When I read the OP, it seemed like a disgraceful thing to do. But when you actually go the website, it's embedded right in front of you. It's not "hidden". Honestly, this isn't a big deal.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
October 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#212
If Eclypsia is cheating on stream audience, then stream audience should get even by sleeping with Eclypsia's sister
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
October 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#213
Has eclypsia come out with a statement?
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:26:47
October 10 2012 12:26 GMT
#214
Man, I'm so blown away by

a.) How clever of a scheme this is.

and b.) How much more clever Starcraft players are. lol. If you ever plan to lie, cheat or steal, don't plan on getting away with it with RTS nerds on the case.

edit:

and c.) wtf, who in their right mind would okay this?

"Hey boss, I've got a great idea..."
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
October 10 2012 12:28 GMT
#215
LOL at "Dirty money"... none of these people actually paid eclypsia anything, hahaha.

It is sneaky, but this is being made into a much bigger deal than it really is.
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
October 10 2012 12:29 GMT
#216
I see absolutely nothing wrong here. Those streams weren't hidden either, they were easy to spot, the first things you see is the adds, which you would see anyway on every single web page that you go to.
On all 3 pages, the stream is visible the second you get on the page. I see this as good promotion of placement of their stream, nothing scam here. You can stop the stream instantly if that is what you wish, and if they pay to get better stream placements, then so be it.
Hell, it's about time
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 10 2012 12:40 GMT
#217
LOL wow i'm shocked.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 10 2012 12:40 GMT
#218
I don't really see how it is cheating? I agree it doesn't happen often (afaik) and it lowers viewer value. But cheating? They just have a different way of getting exposure, which i don't think is very effective at all.
To form this opinion, i clicked on the link in the op to lesdebiles.com.
theSAiNT
Profile Joined July 2009
United States726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:41:41
October 10 2012 12:40 GMT
#219
On October 10 2012 10:38 motionSIGN wrote:
Just seen this on reddit :

Show nested quote +
The whole story started quite normally. As a big buzz news reader, I visit my favorite websites and spend most of my time slacking off in front of useless, yet fun videos (well, some of them are still of a use).
Whilst browsing one of those websites (www.lesdebiles.com), I noticed that the Eclypsia's stream was embed on it, and hidden on top of that : the stream launches itself automatically and is muted when launched, thus giving them a lot of "zombie" (easy yet not alive) viewers. Even though I despise that team, I did not warn any one right off the bat.
When I saw, at noon, the freshly created topic about it on team aAa's boards, It just pushed me toward writing a blog about them, to make sure that everyone understand that, even in the eSports, there is some dirty money

So far, I've discovered three websites that use this "hidden embed" trick, which are :
http://www.lesdebiles.com
http://www.degourdi.com/ http://www.fluvore.com/



I actually clicked on the sites listed. The streams are clearly visiable on the front page. They are not hidden.

I don't care for Eclypsia but this looks like the OP is stirring up drama for no reason. Thread should be closed.
Mongoose
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom190 Posts
October 10 2012 12:41 GMT
#220
umm.. It's not hidden at all. It's in clear view. That means the ads will still be in view to everyone (without adblock ofc). Whether they chose to look at it or not is another matter, but the same problem is there for people watching on the actual page.

It's just strong advertising for their stream.
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