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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
On September 29 2012 02:18 T.O.P. wrote: Sponsors own the teams and KeSPa is run by the sponsors. ESF teams don't have sponsors like kespa teams. Because of that they can't just be added to kespa. IM has sponsors. They even changed their name to the sponsor like the kespa teams. | ||
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 29 2012 11:53 lastshadow wrote: I'm extremely close with one of their b-teamers and also close with another member who lives in their a-team house. I don't think anything will happen to the team yet, I just saw them both yesterday before they went home for Korean-Thanksgiving (Choosuk) and they both seemed really happy and I even asked about woongjin etc. Well, when rumors of WMF disbanding leaked out, Thorzain said he asked Moon about it -- F.United at the time -- and Moon just denied it (or said he didn't know, something like that). But then WMF broke up a few days later ... so you can't really say for certain. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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fer
Canada375 Posts
I always see these huge crowd numbers thrown around for this specific finals, most of the time immediately followed by those famous photographs. Which look to contain, with a very generous perspective, probably 15-20k people. Just something that bugs me. | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2114 Posts
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AssyrianKing
Australia2114 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
doesn't look so good for ESF teams looking to find sponsors either i guess does anyone know how much it costs to sponsor a team per year? haha | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 29 2012 12:48 opterown wrote: ouch, this is painful doesn't look so good for ESF teams looking to find sponsors either i guess does anyone know how much it costs to sponsor a team per year? haha IM and ST both got huge sponsorships while Team 8 was still searching, so it's not like a team like Prime/TSL couldn't get something big if a KeSPA team can't. Really depends on what a sponsor is looking for and what market they want to reach. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
On September 29 2012 11:53 lastshadow wrote: I'm extremely close with one of their b-teamers and also close with another member who lives in their a-team house. I don't think anything will happen to the team yet, I just saw them both yesterday before they went home for Korean-Thanksgiving (Choosuk) and they both seemed really happy and I even asked about woongjin etc. I guess thats nice to hear. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
I'm going to live in ignorant bliss until this is actually 100% real. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19250 Posts
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GTR
51476 Posts
On September 29 2012 13:02 Fionn wrote: IM and ST both got huge sponsorships while Team 8 was still searching, so it's not like a team like Prime/TSL couldn't get something big if a KeSPA team can't. Really depends on what a sponsor is looking for and what market they want to reach. ST may have lots of sponsors but they don't provide much. Their League of Legends team recently left because the team couldn't promise them a small salary. The only reason why I'm suggesting LG is the only viable team to join KeSPA because it's the only ESF team backed by a Korean company. If you look at past/current KeSPA teams, they have all been operated by Korean businesses. Red Bull and FXO are obviously, not Korean companies. Adding to this, LG is the only member of the 'big three' telecommunications companies in Korea (KT and SKT are the other two) to not have a KeSPA presence. This is a perfect time for them to jump on board (however, if I'm not mistaken, it's actually the electronics arm of LG that sponsors LG-IM, not that it really matters that much though, Samsung Electronics is there). For reference, he is a list of the largest chaebols (Korean conglomerate) without a presence on KeSPA; - LG (have LG-IM on ESF) - Hyundai (sponsored a Team League in 2004) - GS Group - Lotte (minor sponsorship of MVP) - Hanhwa - Hanjin (one of their subsidiaries is Korean Air, which sponsored two OSL's and Wemade FOX before their disbandment) - Kumho - Doosan From sponsors most to least likely to join KeSPA, I'd say LG -> Lotte (depending on the MVP sponsorship situation) -> Hanjin. | ||
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catleaves
United States506 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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xHadoken
United States171 Posts
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
I do think people need to analyse the scope of the situation before making judgements though. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On September 29 2012 13:18 GTR wrote: ST may have lots of sponsors but they don't provide much. Their League of Legends team recently left because the team couldn't promise them a small salary. I think the reason that the LoL team fold is that Red Bull, their big sponsor, only supports the SC2 team. So I would say that the SC2 portion of Startale is much larger than the LoL side, sponsor wise. | ||
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Laxx
Australia61 Posts
The reason the team might be in trouble is because Woongjin, the parent company, is about to go bust. That's pretty much it. Not only is it an uncommon and weird situation, but it also has NOTHING TO DO WITH ESPORTS. Trying to paint this as a result of the KeSPA/ESF drama, or as a sign that SC2 is dead in Korea, would be foolish and factually incorrect. People also need to keep things in perspective. Even if Woongjin spent a million dollars a year on sponsoring this team - a generous estimate - it's really only a very small expenditure and is unlikely to be at the top of their list when it comes to cutting down on costs. I'd wager many higher ups in the company probably wouldn't even know that Woongjin actually sponsors an eSports team. Only if Woongjin is truly screwed would the sponsorship likely end. Sorry if I'm coming across as quite aggressive, but some people's responses have been completely absurd and serve only to fuel drama. As an aside, people have mentioned the Lotte sponsorship MVP has. I wouldn't read into this at all; it's product only, and is incredibly insignificant. | ||
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
I'm not by any means familiar with the Kespa scene since I don't know BW but the finance/recruit side don't add up - Lately they renew Zero's contract and awhile back ago they recruited MMA's personal coach (which is partially responsible for his decline) for their team soon after the Iron Squid I believe, so about 3-4 months ago (?), if they knew their outlook for the next year were deep in the red no one would do that. | ||
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