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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 29 2012 00:07 GMT
#141
On September 29 2012 08:54 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 01:45 McFeser wrote:
That's horrible. If they did disband would that mean for the next Proleague they would have to let GSTL teams participate (They'd have 7 teams and I'm unaware of a format that could make that work).


Just Let IM in. They have big sponsors so they kind of fit in.


No way LG-IM would go against ESF and join if the others weren't allowed to. It's either take the ESF lot or none at all.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
September 29 2012 00:07 GMT
#142
Does gom or ESF even have the time to schedule in proleague? They are already incredibly overbooked.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
September 29 2012 00:16 GMT
#143
I hope this doesn't end up happening. Woongjin Stars is probably my favourite team. They were always the ones who "could surprise you" and I was looking forward to them surprising in the future.
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
September 29 2012 00:24 GMT
#144
Seems like the tides are turning with Broodwar goin down to it's end now...
I'm really curious what whill happen with Proleague if there will be only 6 teams or less...

Still sad if it turns out the way it looks like
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 00:47:42
September 29 2012 00:46 GMT
#145
Elite League

LG-IM
StarTale Redbull
KT Rolster
SKT1
Samsung Khan
STX Soul
FXO
Intel Team 8 (hopefully lol)

Division II:

MVP
NSHoSeo
Prime
Fnatic
Slayers
Stars
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
September 29 2012 00:56 GMT
#146
On September 29 2012 01:46 Black[CAT] wrote:
Not even Team 8 got a sponsorship, so looks like Team 8 gonna disband soon as well.


Team 8 is KeSPA's own team, they don't have any sponsors simply because KeSPA pays the bills.
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
NobledBlood
Profile Joined January 2011
United States125 Posts
September 29 2012 00:58 GMT
#147
Aww that sucks... Hopefully they won't have to cut the team.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 01:02:53
September 29 2012 01:02 GMT
#148
On September 29 2012 03:53 Fischbacher wrote:
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On September 29 2012 03:21 skyflyfish wrote:
On September 29 2012 03:09 sharkie wrote:
On September 29 2012 03:07 hunts wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:23 sharkie wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:07 hunts wrote:
Is it wrong that I'm actually happy to see KESPA teams go bankrupt? I mean I'm sad for the players and hope they will find new homes if they want to keep going in SC2, but after all the bad things that have come out of kespa, I just can't help but smile hearing about one of the KESPA companies go bankrupt.


if you like esports dieing, then feel free to be happy


lol. SC2 was fine before BW switched over, it will continue to be fine if KESPA teams die off, so it's not esports dying.


oh yeah I totally missed the overfull stadiums in GSL and GSTL...

sc2 is fine without kespa, we got fans all over the world, and this is true e-sport.

[image loading]

Brood Wars, at it's peek, could get over 100k people in the live audience. A 4k attendance isn't really impressive.

SC2 isn't as popular as Brood Wars was at it's apex, and that's a fact. Before the match fixing scandal and SCII happened KeSPA ran as good a ship as anyone has ever ran in eSports history.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 03:19 Solarsail wrote:
Trying to imagine what an 8-team combined ESF+Proleague would look like, if team mergers happened. 8 teams are needed for a good format.

LG-IM and FXO are strong enough to stand on their own
KT, SKT, CJ, STX, Samsung still alive (T8 doesn't have a sponsor)
Zenex will fold I imagine. Slayers would merge with SKT if it wasn't for the trade lock.
Prime, TSL and Startale - maybe one of these is strong enough to be a full Kespa team, not sure about their sponsorship position. The other two will merge with one of the Kespa teams that has money but is low on SC2 talent.

how does
LG-IM
FXO
TSL
CJ
Samsung
SKT-Slayers
KT-Prime
STX-Startale

sound?




What about MVP?

Right now, LG-IM, FXO and StarTale look like the three healthiest ESF teams financially. From the outside MVP, Prime, TSL and Slayers (not ESF, I know) seem to be doing okay. Fnatic (also not ESF) also seems to be doing okay. NSH looks about to die.


Pretty sure Fnatic is more financially stable than most (non-Kespa) Korean teams. They have the largest eSports fanbase in the world, they have offices in the UK, the Netherlands, Australia and a team house in Korea, apparently the company even started generating some profit last year (which is pretty rare for eSports teams), with a turnover of over $1m...that's what I had read somewhere anyway.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 29 2012 01:21 GMT
#149
On September 29 2012 02:04 Epoxide wrote:
TT, never any good news in the KeSPA community anymore

This man begs to differ + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
#TheOneTrueDong
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
September 29 2012 01:33 GMT
#150
Ouch. Looks like GOM teams might have a chance in proleague then.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 29 2012 01:34 GMT
#151
NOOO NOT WOONGJIN ((.. if Woongjin collapses...
kawaiiryuko
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States368 Posts
September 29 2012 01:36 GMT
#152
On September 29 2012 03:59 ffrozenfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 03:55 Ryo wrote:
On September 29 2012 01:46 Black[CAT] wrote:
Not even Team 8 got a sponsorship, so looks like Team 8 gonna disband soon as well.

Quite likely. STX is also on the bubble.

and Samsung being sued left and right , hard times


Samsung will be fine. See: http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-08-27/industries/33405345_1_apple-patents-samsung-electronics-patent-infringement-claims

Samsung has a market cap of approximately $193b, so even if they paid out the $1b verdict (which is highly unlikely), it would be a tiny part of their general market cap.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51132 Posts
September 29 2012 02:01 GMT
#153
not stars....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
September 29 2012 02:01 GMT
#154
wat
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
September 29 2012 02:02 GMT
#155
Team 8 can now rename to Team 6...
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 29 2012 02:15 GMT
#156
I really hope not, that would suck. If woojin goes down and t8 doesn't get a sponsor, 6 team pl would just be bad.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Maxilicious
Profile Joined May 2011
221 Posts
September 29 2012 02:18 GMT
#157
I like their pants.
http://terrancraft.com/
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
September 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#158
Saaad
AKMU / IU
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 29 2012 02:25 GMT
#159
TT staaaars
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 29 2012 02:25 GMT
#160
On September 29 2012 04:25 GoSuChicken wrote:
Damn, Kespa Korean teams arent looking good...

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
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