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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#241
On September 30 2012 04:46 Sawamura wrote:
Everyone is flamebaiting one way or another he is a point here though most of who were bw fans just don't give a damn any more about the teams . Also it's kind of hard to leave a place where you use to come to for good times ....

Stay in the BW section then. This is the SC2 forum. I doubt this is a place he ever used to "come to for good times."

Nobody assumed that he was ever a "fan" of SC2. People just made the assumption that he's a fan of the players that spent so many years of their lives entertaining him. And there's really no point to come into this thread to say that you don't care, unless you're trying to flamebait. If you really don't care, then you wouldn't have clicked on this thread in the first place, and you sure as hell wouldn't have cared about sharing your opinion about the matter.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 19:59:42
September 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#242
sad news, but the positive to this is it would reduce the power Kespa holds over SC2
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#243
hey same twisted thing can be said about your post. If you love sc2 so much, why do you find guilty pleasures in witnessing the big player in the industry go down in flame? yeah, thing about that for a second.

btw stop putting words in people's mouth, I personally have never said that I hate the game so much. To be frank, if there is one single basket that I would invest all my eggs of hatred for, it would be Blizzard's business model.

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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
September 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#244
This is sad for Woogjin Stars ... Hope the team goes through....

And btw, I don't know why some people say "There's too much teams", I mean, isn't that good for competition ?

And about sponsors, you really think that there's not enough companies that can support a team ? I don't think so (but that's my opinion, and an open question, not necessarily a rethoric one).
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
September 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#245
Well at least the title of the thread finally changed.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10347 Posts
September 30 2012 04:01 GMT
#246
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.
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Valkyriie
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland19 Posts
September 30 2012 12:07 GMT
#247
they won the 1st round of the 2004 SKY Proleague, upsetting the heavily favoured SK Telecom T1 in front of a crowd of 100,000 people at Gwangahli beach in Busan.


Out of context but I find it funny how the Korean police managed to multiple the amount of crowd by about 5 each time there was a proleague final.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 30 2012 12:51 GMT
#248
On September 30 2012 13:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.


I wouldn't say Kespa will collapse. They still have some really big teams and sponsors-- Flash's salary is probably similar to EG's combined salary, and they have a TON of good players that are more talented at RTS than the ESF players and practice more.

They already have the best Protoss in the world, some very good Terrans and Zergs, and they'll slowly take over GSL season by season. The scene will look quite different in a year.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 12:58:59
September 30 2012 12:58 GMT
#249
On September 30 2012 21:51 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.


I wouldn't say Kespa will collapse. They still have some really big teams and sponsors-- Flash's salary is probably similar to EG's combined salary, and they have a TON of good players that are more talented at RTS than the ESF players and practice more.

They already have the best Protoss in the world, some very good Terrans and Zergs, and they'll slowly take over GSL season by season. The scene will look quite different in a year.


who can say, the only thing kespa has going for them is by.rain (and he looks legit) besides that we ve some good players and a lot of shitty players, same goes for gsl too so predicting what is gonna happen is kinda obsolete, just watch and hope for the best

me personally, couldnt care less for what the players play, if i watch sc2 games i wanna see good games, regardless if its kespa or gsl player or someone from africa -_-

for wongjin its kinda bad if that happens, not really for the established players but the guys who couldnt make a name for themselves such a thing pretty much is carrie(e)r ending
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 30 2012 13:21 GMT
#250
Hope Woongjin pulls through
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
September 30 2012 13:37 GMT
#251
My poor adorable ZerO
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
September 30 2012 13:42 GMT
#252
Someone help them. Samsung or LG, they're big enough, combine the two teams if necessary. Just not worth it losing so many talented players...
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Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
September 30 2012 13:55 GMT
#253
On September 30 2012 22:42 SEA KarMa wrote:
Someone help them. Samsung or LG, they're big enough, combine the two teams if necessary. Just not worth it losing so many talented players...

They won't be lost, they'll find a brand new team and move on.
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
September 30 2012 14:00 GMT
#254
On September 30 2012 21:51 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.


I wouldn't say Kespa will collapse. They still have some really big teams and sponsors-- Flash's salary is probably similar to EG's combined salary, and they have a TON of good players that are more talented at RTS than the ESF players and practice more.

They already have the best Protoss in the world, some very good Terrans and Zergs, and they'll slowly take over GSL season by season. The scene will look quite different in a year.


Woah woah slow down there cowboy. By.Rain is good, very very good, but he isn't even the only Protoss in the Ro8, and he hasn't actually won a championship yet. It's not time to crown him as the best Protoss in the world just yet.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
SickeL
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
110 Posts
September 30 2012 14:15 GMT
#255
Fuck, why is Soulkey so cute?
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Swish 41
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany154 Posts
September 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#256
Who cares, GSL is way better than this BW-Shit...

User was temp banned for this post.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
September 30 2012 14:33 GMT
#257
On September 30 2012 23:19 Swish 41 wrote:
Who cares, GSL is way better than this BW-Shit...


BW is dead but that has nothing to do with the situation , if that team disbands then we may never get to see their talented roaster in sc2
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 30 2012 14:46 GMT
#258
Fuck, the future of KESPA esports is not looking good. In terms of teams, it has been downhill for a while.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 30 2012 14:47 GMT
#259
On September 30 2012 21:51 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.



They already have the best Protoss in the world, some very good Terrans and Zergs, and they'll slowly take over GSL season by season. The scene will look quite different in a year.


Hmm I don't know about that. Rain is incredibly good, I love love love love his playstyle (I even have him in my sig!), but I think that most people can't really study him and find his tendencies since he's still a relative newcomer. Maybe he's got a pattern that other pros like MVP will spot that isn't really obvious to you and me. Still, he definitely looks like a top 3 Protoss easily.
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 30 2012 15:07 GMT
#260
On September 30 2012 23:47 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 21:51 xrapture wrote:
On September 30 2012 13:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I told everyone that KESPA's power is vastly overrated now. Unless they crush GSLs and MLGs quick, they will continue to contract to eventual collapse. All the eSF has to do is keep playing along.



They already have the best Protoss in the world, some very good Terrans and Zergs, and they'll slowly take over GSL season by season. The scene will look quite different in a year.


Hmm I don't know about that. Rain is incredibly good, I love love love love his playstyle (I even have him in my sig!), but I think that most people can't really study him and find his tendencies since he's still a relative newcomer. Maybe he's got a pattern that other pros like MVP will spot that isn't really obvious to you and me. Still, he definitely looks like a top 3 Protoss easily.


I mean dominating Taeja, Parting, and DRG live in the two most prestigious tournaments in the world is insanely impressive.

Taeja himself said if he plays Rain again he will most likely lose, and DRG said he doesn't want to play Rain and he is very strong on ladder.
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