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KeSPA seeds for GSL S4 Announced - Page 4

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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:32:18
August 30 2012 09:31 GMT
#61
Come on, these are the first seeds given to Kespa. Those are more for announcement than for rewarding the more deserving players. I'm definitely more excited to see Jeadong in code S than Roro and Jaedong is not ten time worse than Roro. Even if it was the case, next season Roro will be in code S and Jeadong in code A
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 30 2012 09:32 GMT
#62
On August 30 2012 18:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:25 Yonnua wrote:
On August 30 2012 18:12 KroN wrote:
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote:
Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket.
Finish 4th overall.
Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0.
Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS
Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S

Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.

Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.


this, totally unfair.


Umm, no, not totally unfair? If they were just doing it on personality they could have invited Flash and Oov to Code S. I'm sure that would give them a lot more attention. They've done it because they think those are the best players. Kespa actually has no incentive to do it based on popularity because they should reserve the more popular players for their own leagues (OSL and SPL). I doubt this has anything to do with popularity.


Roro is undisputably currently more accompolished in SC2 than Jaedong. Why is JD in Code S and Roro in Code A?


Also, if you think any SC2 tournament in the world wouldn't die to have Jaedong or Bisu play in it, I'm fairly sure you are mistaken. These guys have a lot of fans.
Why did Idra get seeded directly into Code S? Because he would bring in viewers. GOM Tv is being smart here, they picked the best of the top 4 famous Koreans to get more foreign eyeballs.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 30 2012 09:32 GMT
#63
Jaedong in code S. Omg, the day has come.

However, I feel Effort has a lot more chance in code S at this moment than Jaedong. Nontheless, it's still great.


Naniwa vs Jaedong in the finals :D
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
August 30 2012 09:32 GMT
#64
On August 30 2012 18:21 Fionn wrote:
Jaedong literally has no edge over Roro results wise.

WCS Korea: Roro (4), Jaedong (16)
Proleague: Roro (8-6), Jaedong (10-9)
OSL: Neither qualified
Fangirls: Roro (3), Jaedong (456,245)


In terms of fangirls, Jaedong definitely deserves Code S more
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 30 2012 09:32 GMT
#65
On August 30 2012 18:31 Fionn wrote:
Alright, they are based off Proleague results with ace matches weighted more.

Sucks for Roro. Seeing as I like Jaedong more than Roro, I will enjoy him in Code S and can't wait to see who he faces, but I feel like Roro would have a better chance of actually getting far.


Unless death stare

Anyway; I guess it's fair to judge ace matches as more important. I guess KeSPA might know best in this case.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 30 2012 09:32 GMT
#66
Ah, if only they had decided this sooner they could have given up and down seeds too. I hope for Jaedong and Sun that they get to play in the groups two weeks from now, since as we all know just two weeks is a lot for allowing KeSPA players to improve.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:37:00
August 30 2012 09:33 GMT
#67
On August 30 2012 18:31 Fionn wrote:
Alright, they are based off Proleague results with ace matches weighted more.

Sucks for Roro. Seeing as I like Jaedong more than Roro, I will enjoy him in Code S and can't wait to see who he faces, but I feel like Roro would have a better chance of actually getting far.

Hopefully its not Mana.. He says korean zergs are easy.. but JD is using euro zerg style.

Edit:
Scratch That. Mana and JD cannot play each other in first round groups.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
August 30 2012 09:33 GMT
#68
JD over Roro? Bullshit. Just bullshit.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
August 30 2012 09:33 GMT
#69
There seems to be some discussion going on about who deserves the seed based on some obviously flawed metric such as esults.

I have one thing to say to that

JJAEEEEDONNNGG IS IN CODE S !
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 30 2012 09:34 GMT
#70
On August 30 2012 18:32 Grumbels wrote:
Ah, if only they had decided this sooner they could have given up and down seeds too. I hope for Jaedong and Sun that they get to play in the groups two weeks from now, since as we all know just two weeks is a lot for allowing KeSPA players to improve.


Jaedong and Sun both have playoffs this week. I can see KeSPA asking if they can make it so they play in two weeks instead of next week.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Aflixion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
August 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#71
On August 30 2012 18:29 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:28 chlindell wrote:
When is the group selection?

September 14th


Doesn't seem right. That's gotta be group selection for Ro16, not Ro32...
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
August 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#72
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote:
Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket.
Finish 4th overall.
Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0.
Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS
Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S

Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.

Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.

My sentiments exactly..

I love JD, but RorO has ben the one who's impressed me the most out of the KeSPA players.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#73
Sensible seeding on the whole. Bit sad they didn't give one for a Kespa T though.

Expected Jaedong since he's way too popular not to have, even if his ability isn't really the highest amongst his fellow players.

I did think that Sun might get passed over for Roro due to his crazy schedule, but I guess he's going to be MC levels of busy for the next few months (albeit without all that presidential jet-setting).

Nice to see Shy and Trap getting some recognition for their PL performances.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#74
Brace yourself GSL. THE SHEEP IS COMING!

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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#75
On August 30 2012 18:35 Aflixion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:29 Serinox wrote:
On August 30 2012 18:28 chlindell wrote:
When is the group selection?

September 14th


Doesn't seem right. That's gotta be group selection for Ro16, not Ro32...


Ro32 doesn't have group selection.

You will know Sun/Jaedong's groups by Friday/Saturday. The games start on Monday, so you will know the groups by then.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:36:14
August 30 2012 09:36 GMT
#76
On August 30 2012 18:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:12 KroN wrote:
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote:
Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket.
Finish 4th overall.
Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0.
Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS
Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S

Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.

Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.


this, totally unfair.


Umm, no, not totally unfair? If they were just doing it on personality they could have invited Flash and Oov to Code S. I'm sure that would give them a lot more attention. They've done it because they think those are the best players. Kespa actually has no incentive to do it based on popularity because they should reserve the more popular players for their own leagues (OSL and SPL). I doubt this has anything to do with popularity.


There is the error, the best one atm is in CodeA
DrastyK
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany23 Posts
August 30 2012 09:36 GMT
#77
Great news. I'm gonna go on total fanboy-mode once the season has started.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 30 2012 09:36 GMT
#78
the tyan is here
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
August 30 2012 09:37 GMT
#79
Shame roro did not get a code S seed, he deserved it the most of anyone
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:39:21
August 30 2012 09:37 GMT
#80
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote:
Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket.
Finish 4th overall.
Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0.
Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS
Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S

Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.

Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.


The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)

A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:

Proleague Ranking

Code S:
Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495
JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390

Code A:
Trap =11-4, 3 ace match wins = 375
RoRo = 9-6, 3 ace match wins = 315
Effort = 9-8, 3 ace match wins = 315
Shy 9-2 = 270

Barely Missed the cut:
Hero 8-5, 2 ace match wins = 270
Stork 8-3, 1 ace match win = 255
Soulkey 7-7, 1 ace match win = 225
Stats 6-2, 2 ace match wins = 210
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