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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 31 2012 13:08 GMT
#441
On August 31 2012 20:45 shid0x wrote:
Meh,not a good idea imo.
Jaedong is probably gonna get raped by anyone in the actual code S.

i can assure you none of these code s players think that way themselves. against jaedong everyone is at an ability disadvantage and you are just hoping he hasn't learned enough sc2 to overtake you.


btw a lot of these 'errors' or 'chokes' gsl players show are forced errors. the pace of play is too fast for them to keep up. it's a pretty normal/regular way for inferior players to lose in bw. not that different here.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 31 2012 13:10 GMT
#442
Yeah, one of the silly things about the seeding system is that it rewards whoever is most often picked as ace, so it's logical that the aces of the top five teams that got to the play-offs were selected. (except for Woongjin's ^^ , sorry Soulkey) Also, some players don't play as many games because they are supposed to play in the third games of either Bo3.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
August 31 2012 13:12 GMT
#443
On August 31 2012 18:48 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 18:03 Qikz wrote:
On August 31 2012 18:00 Shikyo wrote:
On August 31 2012 17:49 Qikz wrote:
On August 31 2012 17:48 Shikyo wrote:
I love JD and all, he's my favorite SCBW player etc, but...


This seeding system is utterly ridiculous. Losses have no negative impact at all? A person with a 6-0 score scores less points than a 7-15 player? This makes no sense at all, how can they do this?


Also Fantasy skillwise is way up there and his PL record is incredible as well, I also hate him by the way.



People talking about Bisu are ridiculous -_- How is he even popular in the first place? Luckily for me I've hated him for 5 years and it's easy to continue doing so.


Hating Fantasy AND BISU? How... how could you do that. T_T

Actually I kind of like Fantasy because his expressions and such are hilarious when he loses. I don't really hate him as much anymore and it sure would help if he would stop beating my favorite players and then choking horribly in finals and whatnot.

Bisu, well... First of all my sense of beauty is probably off because he's not handsome/pretty at all to me so having people talk about it makes me feel strange because I still cannot see it, another thing is that Zerg is my favorite race and he made the matchup way tougher than it needed to be, then in addition I used to love savior... I guess hate is abit strong, none of the SKT1 players really appeal to me, in fact... I guess Soo and Sun are okay, dislike Best still


You're like the anti me. I couldn't ever hate Fantasy or Bisu. I-It'd just feel wrong to me. ,_,

Likes and dislikes, soon in 2013 we will know they differ among people. gogo science

sorry

Btw. I also don't like Bisu (though i don't hate him) but i like Fantasy :p


I actually hated fantasy from the 'SPL finals between SKT and OZ' until the 'MSL semi finals of him vs Flash'. This career as a whole has really been tragic. The amount of silvers he has and the recent losses against jangbi. ;;

Now I just feel sorry for him. All. the. friggin. time.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 31 2012 13:12 GMT
#444
It would be amazingly awesome for these guys to put up some good games. I can't wait to see them.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 13:19:23
August 31 2012 13:18 GMT
#445
i can assure you none of these code s players think that way themselves. against jaedong everyone is at an ability disadvantage and you are just hoping he hasn't learned enough sc2 to overtake you.


well i sure hope so too,because overconfidence is always a trap easy to fall in.
Still from a neutral point of view he's below the rest,it was too early for code S seeds i think but i would like to see them in the code A qualifiers.
RIP MKP
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
August 31 2012 14:07 GMT
#446
On August 31 2012 17:48 Shikyo wrote:
I love JD and all, he's my favorite SCBW player etc, but...


This seeding system is utterly ridiculous. Losses have no negative impact at all? A person with a 6-0 score scores less points than a 7-15 player? This makes no sense at all, how can they do this?


Also Fantasy skillwise is way up there and his PL record is incredible as well, I also hate him by the way.



People talking about Bisu are ridiculous -_- How is he even popular in the first place? Luckily for me I've hated him for 5 years and it's easy to continue doing so.


You're not factoring that the 7-15 player's coach had enough confidence to field him 22 times.
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
August 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#447
On August 30 2012 18:09 Syntaxs wrote:
Nvm, it goes September/August with the Finals on 27th August!
I am excited to see the BW "God" Jaedong play, never saw him just know his name:/
Definately going to be interesting.
(Don't have a BW background, just a bit playing WC3)


I would say "God" technically refers to Flash. He is known as God Young-Ho by Koreans. Though Jaedong is/was (he's far from his peak now unfortunately) an absolute monster himself xD ... the best multitasker in BW imo.
wheelchairs
Profile Joined February 2010
United States145 Posts
August 31 2012 14:41 GMT
#448
im so excited to see jaedong improve his play over the next couple months. Watch for it, he will be facing all code S skill level, its kill or be killed. Jaedong will succeed.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 31 2012 15:31 GMT
#449
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
August 31 2012 16:02 GMT
#450
On August 31 2012 23:30 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:09 Syntaxs wrote:
Nvm, it goes September/August with the Finals on 27th August!
I am excited to see the BW "God" Jaedong play, never saw him just know his name:/
Definately going to be interesting.
(Don't have a BW background, just a bit playing WC3)


I would say "God" technically refers to Flash. He is known as God Young-Ho by Koreans. Though Jaedong is/was (he's far from his peak now unfortunately) an absolute monster himself xD ... the best multitasker in BW imo.


Flash and Jaedong also had this huge rivalry going on couple years ago. Hopefully they can revive it later on in SC2! I'd go bananas
Tons of damage
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 16:20:36
August 31 2012 16:19 GMT
#451
On August 31 2012 22:10 Grumbels wrote:
Yeah, one of the silly things about the seeding system is that it rewards whoever is most often picked as ace, so it's logical that the aces of the top five teams that got to the play-offs were selected. (except for Woongjin's ^^ , sorry Soulkey)


They get pick as ace because the team consider them to be the best. Nothing wrong with give seed to the best players.

On August 31 2012 22:10 Grumbels wrote:
Also, some players don't play as many games because they are supposed to play in the third games of either Bo3.


Everyone has a equal probability of being played at game x of boX. It's not like <insert player name> is known to always play at game X.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 31 2012 16:24 GMT
#452
On August 31 2012 23:07 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 17:48 Shikyo wrote:
I love JD and all, he's my favorite SCBW player etc, but...


This seeding system is utterly ridiculous. Losses have no negative impact at all? A person with a 6-0 score scores less points than a 7-15 player? This makes no sense at all, how can they do this?


Also Fantasy skillwise is way up there and his PL record is incredible as well, I also hate him by the way.



People talking about Bisu are ridiculous -_- How is he even popular in the first place? Luckily for me I've hated him for 5 years and it's easy to continue doing so.


You're not factoring that the 7-15 player's coach had enough confidence to field him 22 times.

Or maybe his team just is shit and he doesn't have as much competition - That shouldn't be held against the player because it's not his fault.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2300 Posts
August 31 2012 16:37 GMT
#453
On August 31 2012 12:22 Xpace wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks e-Sports is moving too fast these days -.-


You mean "SC2", its not the same.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 31 2012 16:46 GMT
#454
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Flash hasn't been impressive
Refer to my post.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 31 2012 17:07 GMT
#455
On September 01 2012 01:46 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Flash hasn't been impressive


except for his macro
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 31 2012 17:54 GMT
#456
On September 01 2012 02:07 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 01:46 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Flash hasn't been impressive


except for his macro


which is one of the keys to his awesomeness, the other being game sense but that takes a bit to get.
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
August 31 2012 19:40 GMT
#457
Gogo win this jaedong!
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 31 2012 20:52 GMT
#458
On September 01 2012 02:07 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 01:46 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Flash hasn't been impressive


except for his macro

Yeah but his macro in bw was SO much more impressive given the mechanics of the game Its pretty downplayed here but that isn't flash's fault coughblizzardcough. (Also his macro in the osl games was less impressive too cause he got three early ccs and wasnt punished for it at all... I could do that too in sc2 without an opponent)
Jaedong.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
August 31 2012 20:57 GMT
#459
Nice! Feels good that Jaedong is Code S, though i'm not quite sure i can say he's completely ready at the moment.


Hope the best for him though!
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
September 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#460
Flash.. Farewell to the greatest BW player of all time.
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