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KeSPA seeds for GSL S4 Announced - Page 24

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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 01 2012 03:05 GMT
#461
On September 01 2012 05:52 Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 02:07 ]343[ wrote:
On September 01 2012 01:46 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Flash hasn't been impressive


except for his macro

Yeah but his macro in bw was SO much more impressive given the mechanics of the game Its pretty downplayed here but that isn't flash's fault coughblizzardcough. (Also his macro in the osl games was less impressive too cause he got three early ccs and wasnt punished for it at all... I could do that too in sc2 without an opponent)


Give flash another year and he will dominate this game.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
September 01 2012 03:05 GMT
#462
Jaedong already probably has the best creep spread and possibly injects (although that's a little more difficult to tell) in SC2, although his late game still needs work if he wants to be the best in the world. He and the other KESPA pros are going to show everyone how good you can get at SC2 if you practice 13 hours a day and are very talented. I feel like there's little chance the KESPA pros, on the whole, won't achieve a higher level than the current crop of GOM pros given that the KESPA guys are, I understand, more or less required to practice like madmen, whereas SC2 Korean teams are a bit more relaxed. Unless you burn out or injure yourself, more practice is almost always better than less practice.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 01 2012 03:21 GMT
#463
I think it's impossible for anyone to dominate sc2, and be very surprised if a player stayed on top for 2 years like flash did. The "best player" door seems to revolve every month with each new result. That will lessen once foreign events are more marginalized, though.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 01 2012 03:23 GMT
#464
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Bisu ..... lol.

Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 01 2012 05:53 GMT
#465
On September 01 2012 12:23 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:31 Mozdk wrote:
Hasn't Flash been playing very well too? Surprised not to see him there. What about Bisu?

Bisu ..... lol.


Okay optimist. Hes on a 2 game win streak ^.^
Jaedong.
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
September 01 2012 14:16 GMT
#466
I hope we'll see RorO in code S in a season or 2. He was so good in the WCS...
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
September 01 2012 14:28 GMT
#467
On September 01 2012 12:21 rift wrote:
I think it's impossible for anyone to dominate sc2, and be very surprised if a player stayed on top for 2 years like flash did. The "best player" door seems to revolve every month with each new result. That will lessen once foreign events are more marginalized, though.


yeah it's kind of funny

i can summarise sc2's history like this:

fruitdealer, OMG BOXER AND NADA, MC, nestea, mvp #1, mvp's lost it, mvp #1 again, mvp looks weak, mvp wins gsl again, mvp has an injury, he's done this time, mvp wins gsl again

at some point in time MKP, MVP, FD, Nestea, DRG, MC, Stephano, MMA and leenock have been bonjwas or near-bonjwas according to TL's community
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 01 2012 14:36 GMT
#468
On September 01 2012 12:05 The_Darkness wrote:
Jaedong already probably has the best creep spread and possibly injects (although that's a little more difficult to tell) in SC2, although his late game still needs work if he wants to be the best in the world. He and the other KESPA pros are going to show everyone how good you can get at SC2 if you practice 13 hours a day and are very talented. I feel like there's little chance the KESPA pros, on the whole, won't achieve a higher level than the current crop of GOM pros given that the KESPA guys are, I understand, more or less required to practice like madmen, whereas SC2 Korean teams are a bit more relaxed. Unless you burn out or injure yourself, more practice is almost always better than less practice.

I think it'll be more of a situation where the KeSPA pros will push the overall level, and the overall level of SC2 will impove. But I don't think the top will be exclusively dominated by the KeSPA teams.

It'll be interesting to see it play out though. :-)
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
September 01 2012 14:39 GMT
#469
Jaedong > all
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CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 01 2012 15:08 GMT
#470
On September 01 2012 23:36 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 12:05 The_Darkness wrote:
Jaedong already probably has the best creep spread and possibly injects (although that's a little more difficult to tell) in SC2, although his late game still needs work if he wants to be the best in the world. He and the other KESPA pros are going to show everyone how good you can get at SC2 if you practice 13 hours a day and are very talented. I feel like there's little chance the KESPA pros, on the whole, won't achieve a higher level than the current crop of GOM pros given that the KESPA guys are, I understand, more or less required to practice like madmen, whereas SC2 Korean teams are a bit more relaxed. Unless you burn out or injure yourself, more practice is almost always better than less practice.

I think it'll be more of a situation where the KeSPA pros will push the overall level, and the overall level of SC2 will impove. But I don't think the top will be exclusively dominated by the KeSPA teams.

It'll be interesting to see it play out though. :-)


so you're saying a player that trains 10-12 hours in an incredibly efficient way won't have an advantage over somebody that is physically required (work, personal stuff) to train less than that?

if kespa won't dominate, i'll most likely stop watching sc2 - which i just started. why? because the game then doesn't seem to reward practice. it's not only about the broodwar stars... it's about the fact that there is now a few exceptional people that really go to the physical maximum of training a computer game and push it to its limits... there is no way kespa should be stopped
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
September 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#471
That kind of sucks. RorO is clearly the best or the second best KeSPA player (HyuN might be the best).
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 01 2012 17:35 GMT
#472
Fantasy should've been seeded. His play is great and there are no Terran seeds.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 01 2012 17:41 GMT
#473
JAEDONG HWAITING
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 18:09:15
September 01 2012 17:48 GMT
#474
On September 02 2012 00:08 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 23:36 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:05 The_Darkness wrote:
Jaedong already probably has the best creep spread and possibly injects (although that's a little more difficult to tell) in SC2, although his late game still needs work if he wants to be the best in the world. He and the other KESPA pros are going to show everyone how good you can get at SC2 if you practice 13 hours a day and are very talented. I feel like there's little chance the KESPA pros, on the whole, won't achieve a higher level than the current crop of GOM pros given that the KESPA guys are, I understand, more or less required to practice like madmen, whereas SC2 Korean teams are a bit more relaxed. Unless you burn out or injure yourself, more practice is almost always better than less practice.

I think it'll be more of a situation where the KeSPA pros will push the overall level, and the overall level of SC2 will impove. But I don't think the top will be exclusively dominated by the KeSPA teams.

It'll be interesting to see it play out though. :-)


so you're saying a player that trains 10-12 hours in an incredibly efficient way won't have an advantage over somebody that is physically required (work, personal stuff) to train less than that?

if kespa won't dominate, i'll most likely stop watching sc2 - which i just started. why? because the game then doesn't seem to reward practice. it's not only about the broodwar stars... it's about the fact that there is now a few exceptional people that really go to the physical maximum of training a computer game and push it to its limits... there is no way kespa should be stopped


Your argument is quite weak to be honest. If they don't dominate, it's because they aren't gods at sc2, and to be honest, people who practice a lot and have talent and are solid enough to don't have up's and down's, will dominate. Noone can argue that.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
September 01 2012 18:00 GMT
#475
On September 02 2012 00:08 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 23:36 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:05 The_Darkness wrote:
Jaedong already probably has the best creep spread and possibly injects (although that's a little more difficult to tell) in SC2, although his late game still needs work if he wants to be the best in the world. He and the other KESPA pros are going to show everyone how good you can get at SC2 if you practice 13 hours a day and are very talented. I feel like there's little chance the KESPA pros, on the whole, won't achieve a higher level than the current crop of GOM pros given that the KESPA guys are, I understand, more or less required to practice like madmen, whereas SC2 Korean teams are a bit more relaxed. Unless you burn out or injure yourself, more practice is almost always better than less practice.

I think it'll be more of a situation where the KeSPA pros will push the overall level, and the overall level of SC2 will impove. But I don't think the top will be exclusively dominated by the KeSPA teams.

It'll be interesting to see it play out though. :-)


so you're saying a player that trains 10-12 hours in an incredibly efficient way won't have an advantage over somebody that is physically required (work, personal stuff) to train less than that?

if kespa won't dominate, i'll most likely stop watching sc2 - which i just started. why? because the game then doesn't seem to reward practice. it's not only about the broodwar stars... it's about the fact that there is now a few exceptional people that really go to the physical maximum of training a computer game and push it to its limits... there is no way kespa should be stopped


10-12 hours is not that special for many good SC2 players outside KeSPA. Some players went up to 15 hours/day (Jinro/Major), however this was not long term succesful. Naniwa mentioned that after 10 or 12 hours your decision making becomes weaker.
CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
September 01 2012 18:58 GMT
#476
i guess who play more get seed so we get kespa terans only if the play more and wins more
Czech Terran(Hots) player
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
September 02 2012 05:58 GMT
#477
On September 02 2012 02:24 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
That kind of sucks. RorO is clearly the best or the second best KeSPA player (HyuN might be the best).


HyuN started earlier than the others.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
September 02 2012 07:15 GMT
#478
Hahahah well this is great. I'll be cheering for Jaedong ^-^
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Asharon
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7 Posts
September 02 2012 15:32 GMT
#479
Dunno if it has been asked before but what's with flash? Did he finally transition to sc2?
“I meant,” said Iplsore bitterly, “what is there in this world that makes living worthwhile?” Death thought about it. ‘CATS’, he said eventually, “CATS ARE NICE.”
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 02 2012 15:34 GMT
#480
On September 03 2012 00:32 Asharon wrote:
Dunno if it has been asked before but what's with flash? Did he finally transition to sc2?


He has, doesn't have the greatest Proleague record though which is why he didn't get seeded.
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