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Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
August 30 2012 16:29 GMT
#2021
On August 31 2012 01:24 Ser3nitynow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:21 Trowa127 wrote:
I always wonder what it would be like if Teamliquid paid this much attention to good players

Thats a good question!


It obviously wouldn't happen, but it would be interesting nonetheless. 100 page thread about some amateur sc2 players penis? Great.
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Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 30 2012 16:30 GMT
#2022
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results.

I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra.

You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment.

I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone.

If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting.
Moonstone
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada8 Posts
August 30 2012 16:32 GMT
#2023
On August 31 2012 01:30 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results.

I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra.

You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment.

I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone.

If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting.



I think the SPONSORS should back their players and say whatever to these 10 people.
FoXer is BoXer
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
August 30 2012 16:33 GMT
#2024
On August 31 2012 01:14 aBstractx wrote:
if i ever make it to a lan with destiny present, do not worry guys, i will personally hand a beating to the faggot for everybody. that gigantic ass head on that 8 year old body needs his ass whooped seriously. looking like a reverse goomba head from the mario movie. kid has no respect.

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User was temp banned for this post.

You should go to a therapist or something.
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bakarin
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:34:50
August 30 2012 16:34 GMT
#2025
On August 31 2012 01:30 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results.

I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra.

You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment.

I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone.

If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting.


Wow you really want "esports" to be WWE with 100% more TMZ content rather than players actually playing the game?
akari~n
lolspoon
Profile Joined March 2012
450 Posts
August 30 2012 16:36 GMT
#2026
On August 31 2012 01:03 arie3000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? In a PRIVATE conversation, he talked about something and showed something to TWO people. Then, the girl finds out, blabla and SHE shares Destiny's private parts to basically EVERYONE.
Excuse me for the caps, but people don't seem to understand - what destiny did was rude, but it was in private. Just think about what would happen if every single private conversation you had would be out in the open, I bet some people would go apeshit berserk on some stuff you said, or stuff I said for that matter.

As for sharing nude pictures - it is not my cup-of-tea, but in some groups of friends these things are considered normal, and it is a 'gentleman's agreement' that these pictures are only for watching, not for sharing. Further, I don't know if I'd be more pissed off to have secrets of me, or nude pics of me shared to friends, but I think the former...

However, only because the girl leaked the chat + private pictures to everybody, he's getting fired and getting financial loss from it. Besides, the girl released private information about where he lives, potentially endangering his son and roommate, which is totally not cool.
What Destiny did was not cool, but private.
What the BlueTea did was ILLEGAL.

Just turn it the other way around for a second... a girl shares a nude pic of Destiny in private with her friends, and Destiny shares (via a high-profile twitter account) nude pics of the girls private parts with the rest of the word.
An absolute shitstorm would ensue, en nobody would blame the girl here.

Destiny could absolutely file a lawsuit here and claim for financial loss- I don't think he will (or should), and the girl should be very, very thankful for that.


You sir deserve a medal for this post. Exactly what you said. +1. You all should read this post and get off your Nimbuses trying to be a witch.

PS.
I love you Steven.
NERD THATS TEH WAY WE LIEV
Wyk
Profile Joined March 2011
314 Posts
August 30 2012 16:38 GMT
#2027
Next thing you know is that Destiny is gay.

But the next team wont let him go because he is gay, but by reason of him sending nsfw images
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
August 30 2012 16:38 GMT
#2028
On August 31 2012 00:58 KoRStarvid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional

This can certainly be argued, imo.

I believe that what Destiny did here was distasteful. I wouldn't personally want to be associated with someone who shares private pictures with his friends. Is it my business though? No, it isn't.

We basically have the power to destroy anyone professionally who is dependant on sponsorship, if we rally in large enough numbers, at least in this business. There's no question about that. I would never believe that I had the right to do it though. To believe the opposite, well, that kind of self-righteousness sickens me.

Support those who you want to support, and let others be, and the business side will take care of it self.

If I know that player X is sponsored by brand y and player x does z controversial thing, then my telling brand y that I'm uncomfortable with them supporting player x because player x has done z is not me ruining player x's career. It is me telling brand y what is currently affecting my perception of their brand. It is not me being self-righteous either. it's me providing market information without prompt. It is the moral equivalent of e-mailing sponsors to say that their decision to sponsor player a who is a nice guy that does b thing gives you warm fuzzies when you think about their brand.

The reason that those complaints often result in consequences in e-sports is that they are often based on things that brands quite strongly do not want to be associated with - racism and the like.

Full disclosure: I have not at present e-mailed any sponsors of any players or teams for negative or positive reasons. I may do so in the future if I feel the need.


Also, once something becomes public, you are free to judge it any way you want - just like Tiger Wood's adultery.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
August 30 2012 16:38 GMT
#2029
Honestly, he has to buckle down and not team hop IMHO.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
August 30 2012 16:38 GMT
#2030
I just listened to the dick story on Inside the Game. What I don't get is:

After the dick-pic leaked, why did he link it on his Twitter?
Did he want to show some sort of bravado and show his amusement, or what exactly happened?
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Rinny
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:40:20
August 30 2012 16:39 GMT
#2031
On August 31 2012 01:14 aBstractx wrote:
if i ever make it to a lan with destiny present, do not worry guys, i will personally hand a beating to the faggot for everybody. that gigantic ass head on that 8 year old body needs his ass whooped seriously. looking like a reverse goomba head from the mario movie. kid has no respect.

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User was temp banned for this post.


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Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 30 2012 16:40 GMT
#2032
On August 31 2012 01:34 bakarin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:30 Sokrates wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results.

I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra.

You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment.

I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone.

If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting.


Wow you really want "esports" to be WWE with 100% more TMZ content rather than players actually playing the game?



The difference is that the WWE is using made up storylines. If a players talks his mind then its not staged it is his true emotion. I hope its not so hard to figure out the difference.

I just want that the players dont have to fear punishment because people keep emailing the sponsors, i m not saying we should encourage them to misbehave. I m just saying : stop messaging the sponsors.
-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
August 30 2012 16:41 GMT
#2033
On August 31 2012 01:36 lolspoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:03 arie3000 wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? In a PRIVATE conversation, he talked about something and showed something to TWO people. Then, the girl finds out, blabla and SHE shares Destiny's private parts to basically EVERYONE.
Excuse me for the caps, but people don't seem to understand - what destiny did was rude, but it was in private. Just think about what would happen if every single private conversation you had would be out in the open, I bet some people would go apeshit berserk on some stuff you said, or stuff I said for that matter.

As for sharing nude pictures - it is not my cup-of-tea, but in some groups of friends these things are considered normal, and it is a 'gentleman's agreement' that these pictures are only for watching, not for sharing. Further, I don't know if I'd be more pissed off to have secrets of me, or nude pics of me shared to friends, but I think the former...

However, only because the girl leaked the chat + private pictures to everybody, he's getting fired and getting financial loss from it. Besides, the girl released private information about where he lives, potentially endangering his son and roommate, which is totally not cool.
What Destiny did was not cool, but private.
What the BlueTea did was ILLEGAL.

Just turn it the other way around for a second... a girl shares a nude pic of Destiny in private with her friends, and Destiny shares (via a high-profile twitter account) nude pics of the girls private parts with the rest of the word.
An absolute shitstorm would ensue, en nobody would blame the girl here.

Destiny could absolutely file a lawsuit here and claim for financial loss- I don't think he will (or should), and the girl should be very, very thankful for that.


You sir deserve a medal for this post. Exactly what you said. +1. You all should read this post and get off your Nimbuses trying to be a witch.

PS.
I love you Steven.

You may have biases in your opinion. Just sayin'.
omg terran is hard to play
mahO
Profile Joined April 2011
France274 Posts
August 30 2012 16:41 GMT
#2034
this is pathetic, I mean, Destiny is one of the few sincere character in our community, he is a really smart, and nice guy, no I dont know him in person, I'm not his fan, I just noticed that well, that guy who goes a little far with jokes sometimes is in fact a fucking amazing guy, and IT IS A CHANCE, for our community, to have young guys with good minds like him, for anyone who's thinking he's just a troll, simply watch the RealTalk interview by JP about him, that dude is for me, the perfect representation of a huuuge part of our community, "trolls", people who grew up on internet and dont give a shit about some "bad words", that are interested in a huge variety of things even if they appear in their behaviour to be simply weird nerds.
This guy is just honest about who he is, he's not hiding it, and good for him it brought his stream to a huge success, and it is a great thing, well was, that SC2 community didnt censor various personalities, this isnt television ffs, yeah, we're trying to make it look like an actual sport, and it is, but it has nothing to do with actual sports, I mean, seing that guy getting demolished for bullshit over and over again, is just sad really, it's like hiding a part of who we are, I know it sounds like big words or corny, whatever, but it is true, a huge part of SC2 players recognize themselves waaaay more in Destiny than lets say Day9 for example, or even Artosis, denying that, and beating him in public for private conversations and some bullshit he did is just childish and dangerous, we're gonna end up with people being fake so they can join good teams and not follow his path.
Thats the last thing I would have expected from an esport community, and as for ROOT, they lost my respect, instantly, yeah yeah, sponsors, like Destiny didnt bring eyes on your mid gm roster?
The racists insults, Ok, some idiots cannot understand that he isnt even remotely racist but just trolling, ok, fine, but this?
And seriously, that girl reaction, holyshit what a retard, ruining a guy like that, when she clearly knew the kind of personality when she approached him, and faced the consequences of hanging / sending nude pictures to a highly trollish streamer with a huge number of followers and fans, yeah, I guess he's such an gigantic bastard etc...

I really think this is, in general, a bad turn in the birth of esport, if communities start trying to get rid of controversial personalities or even TRACK DOWN people for controversies just like fucking paparazzis, there just wont be any identity, might as well play fucking table tennis.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
August 30 2012 16:45 GMT
#2035
On August 31 2012 01:33 achristes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:14 aBstractx wrote:
if i ever make it to a lan with destiny present, do not worry guys, i will personally hand a beating to the faggot for everybody. that gigantic ass head on that 8 year old body needs his ass whooped seriously. looking like a reverse goomba head from the mario movie. kid has no respect.

[image loading]

User was temp banned for this post.

You should go to a therapist or something.

How the fuck is that dude not banned? How is your personal physical hypothesizing relavent at all in this thread? Honestly, private info exposed isn't his fault. Shit gets hacked etc. and its not like he publicized it, he got fucked over.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 30 2012 16:46 GMT
#2036
On August 31 2012 01:41 mahO wrote:
this is pathetic, I mean, Destiny is one of the few sincere character in our community, he is a really smart, and nice guy, no I dont know him in person, I'm not his fan, I just noticed that well, that guy who goes a little far with jokes sometimes is in fact a fucking amazing guy, and IT IS A CHANCE, for our community, to have young guys with good minds like him, for anyone who's thinking he's just a troll, simply watch the RealTalk interview by JP about him, that dude is for me, the perfect representation of a huuuge part of our community, "trolls", people who grew up on internet and dont give a shit about some "bad words", that are interested in a huge variety of things even if they appear in their behaviour to be simply weird nerds.
This guy is just honest about who he is, he's not hiding it, and good for him it brought his stream to a huge success, and it is a great thing, well was, that SC2 community didnt censor various personalities, this isnt television ffs, yeah, we're trying to make it look like an actual sport, and it is, but it has nothing to do with actual sports, I mean, seing that guy getting demolished for bullshit over and over again, is just sad really, it's like hiding a part of who we are, I know it sounds like big words or corny, whatever, but it is true, a huge part of SC2 players recognize themselves waaaay more in Destiny than lets say Day9 for example, or even Artosis, denying that, and beating him in public for private conversations and some bullshit he did is just childish and dangerous, we're gonna end up with people being fake so they can join good teams and not follow his path.
Thats the last thing I would have expected from an esport community, and as for ROOT, they lost my respect, instantly, yeah yeah, sponsors, like Destiny didnt bring eyes on your mid gm roster?
The racists insults, Ok, some idiots cannot understand that he isnt even remotely racist but just trolling, ok, fine, but this?
And seriously, that girl reaction, holyshit what a retard, ruining a guy like that, when she clearly knew the kind of personality when she approached him, and faced the consequences of hanging / sending nude pictures to a highly trollish streamer with a huge number of followers and fans, yeah, I guess he's such an gigantic bastard etc...

I really think this is, in general, a bad turn in the birth of esport, if communities start trying to get rid of controversial personalities or even TRACK DOWN people for controversies just like fucking paparazzis, there just wont be any identity, might as well play fucking table tennis.



I couldnt agree more. Yeah get rid of all personalitys and then wonder why nobody cares anymore.
People like destiny because he talks his mind. You dont have to like him but stop taking away the fun for other people that are enjoying destiny.

You are not just punishing destiny you also punish people who like him.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
August 30 2012 16:48 GMT
#2037
On August 31 2012 00:58 krew406 wrote:
I think its unfair to be calling destiny names and belittling him because of this. There is too much about the story that we don't know, and based on the facts, it is the girl who went crazy, not Destiny. I'm not sure if everyone who is mad is just stuck inside living a very solitary life or what, but friends sharing nude pics of their significant other is a fairly common practice. If anything she should feel empowered by the fact that her body is well enough to be shared amongst friends. The fact that she hacked him back instead of taking any of the legal steps necessary proves how rediculous this is. Yes it is not nice to talk about someones face in a mean light, but these are nude pics, who cares what he says about your face in a picture where your whole body is exposed??? Anyways, I hope she gets in some serious shit for ruining this guy's career. Alot of you are acting a little too self righteous for reality, pro gamers are not Obamas, and this girl has some serious issues for even sending him a nude in the first place.


wtf...?

so it's okay for you that her nude pics got shared with his friends, he called her face ugly as hell and discussed if he should fuck her or not?

She went crazy, but I can understand what she did.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 30 2012 16:49 GMT
#2038
I never liked Destiny...too much drama...and people still defending him.
He heas achieved something very special...he can do everything and the people still love him...dunno why.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 30 2012 16:50 GMT
#2039
I didn't look into this thread when i first saw it because i thought it was just the normal "looking for another team", "concentrating on studying","switching to LoL/DotA" or such stuff...

Now i was bored and finally clicked on this thread.

DRAMA!

The guy did something bad, sponsors got notified and he got kicked. Is there really so much need to discuss it?
I mean what he did was quite... indecent and the reaction from the team/sponsors is completely justified.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
August 30 2012 16:50 GMT
#2040
On August 31 2012 01:40 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:34 bakarin wrote:
On August 31 2012 01:30 Sokrates wrote:
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote:
Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case

This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with.

Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do.

The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional


Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results.

I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra.

You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment.

I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone.

If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting.


Wow you really want "esports" to be WWE with 100% more TMZ content rather than players actually playing the game?



The difference is that the WWE is using made up storylines. If a players talks his mind then its not staged it is his true emotion. I hope its not so hard to figure out the difference.

I just want that the players dont have to fear punishment because people keep emailing the sponsors, i m not saying we should encourage them to misbehave. I m just saying : stop messaging the sponsors.

Do you know what kind of players don't have to fear punishment?
Players who don't treat other people horribly, or do stupid things where they can become public.

Do you know why?
Because sponsors are fine with being associated with people who are good at a game and basically decent human beings.

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