EPT[D]New Race: A Korean Terran. - Page 7
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Aunvilgod
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Imzoo
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On August 27 2012 23:48 Syntaxs wrote: Thats true indeed, but the game still showed how intensive the other races can be so this is in my eyes no arguement anymore. I am just waiting for Moon making his appearence adding the 4th race just like in Wacraft 3. It's the brilliance Koreans work with, while EU and NA sticks to a style everyone already knows the answeres against. I completly agree with you but in a normal game(50 50) zerg is not required to make it to win. And for Moon, i don't think he will do like he did in WC3 because when i compare him to the Kespa level that just switch few time ago he is not as good. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
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BoggieMan
520 Posts
On August 27 2012 00:53 Kontys wrote: That is to say, you need to have a very strict structure to your multitasking as Terran, and just playing the game won't get you there. The macro cycle concept has not been popularised outside of KR I believe. i know it and i am only masters. | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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IMoperator
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
Foreigners love to creat this dichotomy of Cheese and Macro, you either cheese or you macro. While Koreans fully understand that you can open with Cheese and transition into Macro, it all depends on how the game plays out. | ||
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Sparkman
United States60 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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uzushould
Austria122 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:28 Gosi wrote: I wanna just +1 on what SupLilSon wrote. Seriously, just watch something like Nal_rA Old Boy where they talk alot about Starcraft and strategy etc. It's just on a complete different level that you will be amazed. Everything is just so in-depth in ways you never thought about before. And when you live with like 10+ people and coaches and talk and play so in-depth you will be so much better than some guy sitting at home practicing some build order on ladder that he saw from some VOD. I mean just open one of the 2 Random threads from the past week and see how many self acclaimed "high master" or "high level" players are complaining about Random on ladder as if their mechanics don't need work, as if their game sense doesn't need work. These players act as if practicing their opening build order is the end all be all of getting better. And any game where they can't safely use their opener is wasted time. If they aren't lying about their skill level then it speaks volumes to why Korean server Diamonds are truly better RTS players than foreign Masters (and this is largely true, may be a bit exaggerated by MaNa but not by that much) | ||
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uzushould
Austria122 Posts
you admins can ban and warn people for saying this, but unfortunately it is not only the opinion from a lot of creditable people like day9 it is also the most obvios and simple explanation to the OPs question. I m not saying that protoss / zerg is easy or overpowered or something....each race is freaking difficult to play at a tip top level... as well i want to mention that 50 % of the posts in this thread are just talking about why are korans better than foreigners at all....that was not what the OP wanted to discuss, cant you guys read and stick to what its all about in this post? He wants to talk about why there are so many korean terrans at the tip top level but not foreigners...... if your answer is, to argue why koreans are overall better then foreigners, you either didn t read the OP or you indirectly confirm what i wrote above about terra beeing the hardest race. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:39 SupLilSon wrote: I agree fully with you, sir.I mean just open one of the 2 Random threads from the past week and see how many self acclaimed "high master" or "high level" players are complaining about Random on ladder as if their mechanics don't need work, as if their game sense doesn't need work. These players act as if practicing their opening build order is the end all be all of getting better. And any game where they can't safely use their opener is wasted time. If they aren't lying about their skill level then it speaks volumes to why Korean server Diamonds are truly better RTS players than foreign Masters (and this is largely true, may be a bit exaggerated by MaNa but not by that much) I'm not at all high level (foreign platinum, so korean silver most likely  ), but i do feel like there is too much whine compared to effort (in general; there may be specific exceptions) and too much arrogance. | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
emp snipe medivac speed slowed reaper build order nerf various timing nerfs once those nerfs happened all the scrubs got eliminated from the scrub pool now if they removed the collosus (the dumbest ez mode unit ever) and replaced it with the reaver, something similar would happen to protoss | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
Korean terrans will exploit any flaw in your play, I think that's part of why they are able to push through so many open brackets at tourneys. Whenever they sense weakness in an opponent the game changes to "let's multitask!" and players who aren't among the best in the world can't deal with the constant multi-pronged aggression and amazing unit control. When you watch a korean terran play they switch up builds, using a wider variety of openings and styles. They make subtle changes in common builds to hit uncommon timings. They use the meta game to enhance their play, they might make a macro build appear to be aggression. They force opponents to play outside of their comfort zone. Foreign terrans are much more predictable, and when they do all in or play aggressive it seems to be a reaction, or on the fly. Koreans have their aggressive play finely tuned, they practice it just as intensely as foreign terrans practice their macro. I think if more foreign terrans (and really all races) would go into tournaments with their usual arsenal of macro builds and variations, and also well rehearsed and refined cheeses and all ins, while including deceptive twists in their builds (giving the opponent incomplete or incorrect information when they scout). The gap wouldn't be nearly as big as it is. When you watch a Korean terran cheese, they seem to know when they have an advantage and can back off and play from ahead or if they have not done enough damage, they seem to expect the responses that come from the opponent, that comes from practicing these builds with the same seriousness as a standard build. Maybe instead of laughing at guys like "bit by bit" foreign terrans should be studying his builds and adding to their arsenal. | ||
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uzushould
Austria122 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:49 Yorbon wrote: I agree fully with you, sir. I'm not at all high level (foreign platinum, so korean silver most likely ), but i do feel like there is too much whine compared to effort (in general; there may be specific exceptions) and too much arrogance. "post deleted" lol, i ret "but i feel like terran is too much whine" instead of there.... sry for that ^^ | ||
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Dymond
Canada138 Posts
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31415926535
Switzerland276 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:39 SupLilSon wrote: I mean just open one of the 2 Random threads from the past week and see how many self acclaimed "high master" or "high level" players are complaining about Random on ladder as if their mechanics don't need work, as if their game sense doesn't need work. These players act as if practicing their opening build order is the end all be all of getting better. And any game where they can't safely use their opener is wasted time. If they aren't lying about their skill level then it speaks volumes to why Korean server Diamonds are truly better RTS players than foreign Masters (and this is largely true, may be a bit exaggerated by MaNa but not by that much) It's the same with the whole "cheese" concept. Foreigner (pros and community) see cheese as a bad thing and low-level tactics. In Korean, it seems to be a legit way to mindgame and put some pressure on your opponent. | ||
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