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[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 100

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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
August 27 2012 14:16 GMT
#1981
Meh, BW/SC2 PL won't be over at that point. They really shouldn't participate.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2012 14:16 GMT
#1982
Good girls.

Now behave.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
August 27 2012 14:17 GMT
#1983
On August 27 2012 23:10 sam05396 wrote:
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On August 27 2012 22:36 massivez wrote:
On August 27 2012 21:50 Pheint wrote:
Predictions on who is seeded into code S?


Code S: probably Roro and By.sun. If they want the viewer rate to skyrocket: Jaedong+Flash.
Code A: Effort, Reality, Jaedong, CJhero.

should be alicia and first


Yeah, based on foreigner experiences they should, but the KeSPA players (preferably the legends) bring in much more viewers.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
August 27 2012 14:17 GMT
#1984
On August 27 2012 21:54 Leetley wrote:
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On August 27 2012 21:50 Pheint wrote:
Predictions on who is seeded into code S?

Are they going to seed 2 Kespa players there?

Edit: Oh yes, two to Code S and four to Code A. Neat.


For epicness and for WCS Result: Jaedong and Roro
For Racial Balance and WCS Result: Flash and Roro
For another form of epicness could be Jangbi and Fantasy

Hard to say really though. I'd say there's a pretty good chance that Roro will make the cut though.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#1985
Roro + CJ Entus Hero / SK Telecom Rain - No real argument here performance wise.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
August 27 2012 14:22 GMT
#1986
Perfect! It's great ESF is there to handle Kespa. Now it's just time to sit back, relax and watch some epic games. :D
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 27 2012 14:24 GMT
#1987
It seems korean SC2 stays free for as long as KeSPA requires the non-KeSPA players. Which is as long as they won't have the strongest competition without non-Kespa players.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 27 2012 14:25 GMT
#1988
On August 27 2012 23:17 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 21:54 Leetley wrote:
On August 27 2012 21:50 Pheint wrote:
Predictions on who is seeded into code S?

Are they going to seed 2 Kespa players there?

Edit: Oh yes, two to Code S and four to Code A. Neat.


For epicness and for WCS Result: Jaedong and Roro
For Racial Balance and WCS Result: Flash and Roro
For another form of epicness could be Jangbi and Fantasy

Hard to say really though. I'd say there's a pretty good chance that Roro will make the cut though.


I think there's a strong argument to be made that it should be Jangbi and Fantasy, but my guess will be Flash / Jangbi. Based on results it should definitely be Roro + 1 (probably hero, by.sun or reality) but GOM is trying t oget viewers here.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 27 2012 14:32 GMT
#1989
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 27 2012 14:35 GMT
#1990
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356574

Stork[gm]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#1991
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/2838_SKP12_Proleague_S2/player_stats
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
August 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#1992
On August 27 2012 23:37 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/2838_SKP12_Proleague_S2/player_stats


When did Kespa start to catch up? I stopped watching after PvProleague.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 27 2012 14:52 GMT
#1993
On August 27 2012 23:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 23:37 opterown wrote:
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/2838_SKP12_Proleague_S2/player_stats


When did Kespa start to catch up? I stopped watching after PvProleague.

WCS Korea. After getting almost all killed in round one Kespa players went full elephant mode and trampled the loser bracket.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 27 2012 14:52 GMT
#1994
On August 27 2012 23:35 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356574


Crazy how Soulkey was one of the most hyped going into proleague (for SC2) and has now seemed to kind of fizzle out
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 27 2012 14:54 GMT
#1995
On August 27 2012 23:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 23:37 opterown wrote:
On August 27 2012 23:32 Tsubbi wrote:
there are basically 2 measures for seeds imo, either proleague individual results or wcs korea

have doubts that gom would use bw results for seeding (so no jangbi or fantasy) and also the fact that seeds were used to put kespa players in wcs korea leads me to believe proleague stats will be considered

dont know where to find the individual results of proleague players though, are they on liquipedia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/2838_SKP12_Proleague_S2/player_stats


When did Kespa start to catch up? I stopped watching after PvProleague.

Its different for each players, but all top10-15 players sorted by ranking cought to at least code a level.

The big resurgance happened around 1-2 month ago. When Roro won his match in WCS suddenly everyone started, but its still unclear when that happened in proleague.
Stork[gm]
BraveProbe
Profile Joined October 2011
36 Posts
August 27 2012 14:54 GMT
#1996
Good for ESF. Way to stick up for yourself, and the consumers.
Startale Legend Fan Club
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 27 2012 15:00 GMT
#1997
Hope all the players get back to korea safely! I also would like the Code S seeds go to the 2 kespa players that did the best in WCS
Long live the Boss Toss!
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
August 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#1998
Yaaaaay! I'm really glad this got resolved. I hope KeSPA doesn't have anything sneaky planned and will work together with GOMTV/ESF to develop SC2 esports in Korea.

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Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Wounded31
Profile Joined October 2011
124 Posts
August 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#1999
very good that its finally resolved
MKP!
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
August 27 2012 15:03 GMT
#2000
Fairly obvious to me that Rain and RorO should be given Code S seeds. They got the furthest in WCS vs GOM players in the GOM studio. That has to account for a lot in a mixed group GSL.

The bigger question is who gets the Code A seeds. Again, based on WCS results it would have to be herO, Jaedong, Effort and Reality.

I think those make the most sense to start.
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