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KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 27

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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:05:09
August 24 2012 22:04 GMT
#521
On August 25 2012 06:53 Xulatis wrote:
The most imbalanced move, the ESF could make, would be to let their players play in the current OSL, get them to place all their players in Ro4 and ongoing. And next season of OSL, they will not be coming back.... GG

Get all their players to the Ro8 and then bow out of the competition o_O

Or worker rush each other and donate all winnings to some charity.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 24 2012 22:10 GMT
#522
On August 25 2012 06:40 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 06:20 mongmong wrote:
To those who keep saying bs like

"kespa pays a lot of salaries to players!!"

hell yeah its true but its only limited to big names like flash and jaedong

b-teamers get almost nothing and average players get a salary of around $400 per month

+ they cant stream or anything so no other earnings included.I dunno what to say if you think getting 400 per

month is enough considering they practice 12 hours day nonstop

They also get room and board included, and of course they can't stream, because they have responsibilities towards the team that is employing them. They also get bonuses for performance, and always a chance to end up with a higher salary later once they actually become good. And anyway, if they don't like the arrangement, they know where the e-stadium is at Sindorim for GSL qualifiers.

If they go for the GSL qualifiers, will the have to fear retaliation from Kespa (I mean be treated worse than players who switched two years ago)?
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:16:20
August 24 2012 22:15 GMT
#523
On August 25 2012 07:04 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 06:53 Xulatis wrote:
The most imbalanced move, the ESF could make, would be to let their players play in the current OSL, get them to place all their players in Ro4 and ongoing. And next season of OSL, they will not be coming back.... GG

Get all their players to the Ro8 and then bow out of the competition o_O

Or worker rush each other and donate all winnings to some charity.

Just imagine Nestea saying "Naniwa!!" in the chat. That would have been absolutely hilarious. I kid, I kid.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
August 24 2012 22:18 GMT
#524
EG needs to poach some kespa players to soften them up a bit more. I doubt anyone would complain about that.
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 24 2012 22:20 GMT
#525
On August 25 2012 07:15 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:04 Dosey wrote:
On August 25 2012 06:53 Xulatis wrote:
The most imbalanced move, the ESF could make, would be to let their players play in the current OSL, get them to place all their players in Ro4 and ongoing. And next season of OSL, they will not be coming back.... GG

Get all their players to the Ro8 and then bow out of the competition o_O

Or worker rush each other and donate all winnings to some charity.

Just imagine Nestea saying "Naniwa!!" in the chat. That would have been absolutely hilarious. I kid, I kid.

For Naniwa!!!!!! Would be quite funny and quite the scandal
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#526
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 24 2012 22:23 GMT
#527
On August 25 2012 07:04 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 06:53 Xulatis wrote:
The most imbalanced move, the ESF could make, would be to let their players play in the current OSL, get them to place all their players in Ro4 and ongoing. And next season of OSL, they will not be coming back.... GG

Get all their players to the Ro8 and then bow out of the competition o_O

Or worker rush each other and donate all winnings to some charity.


That makes GSL players more puppier than poor Kespa players though.
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
August 24 2012 22:27 GMT
#528
Well, that got solved fast...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12052 Posts
August 24 2012 22:29 GMT
#529
On August 25 2012 07:27 Kroml wrote:
Well, that got solved fast...


Not really, the OSL is still a shambles at this point and Kespa have promised something like this in the past.

I've been unable to follow this for a while, have they signed a contract about this yet?
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 24 2012 22:31 GMT
#530
kespa just learned its place
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 24 2012 22:38 GMT
#531
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


They are not ready though.

See the fast approaching PlayOff is coming.

Lots of teams will priotize that over anything else.

And if players are not focused on it, then results will suffer.

Someone gave an example of coaching asking B-teamer to help A-teamers practicing for PL but then B-teamer will be too preocuppied with GSL qualifiers.

In that case, it is understandable why the teams have made such decision.

Abide by the team's rule = sure salary
going to GSL = a financial risk.

I'm sure that how RorO thought of it when the interviewers touched upon the topic.
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PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
August 24 2012 22:40 GMT
#532
LOl kESPA owned
En taro Adun!
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 24 2012 22:41 GMT
#533
On August 25 2012 07:27 Kroml wrote:
Well, that got solved fast...


Not at all, ESF players still aren't playing in OSL.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 24 2012 22:43 GMT
#534
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


2 months ago, KeSPA sent their star players to an US event for the first time in history.

They're embracing the international scene, but they're not embracing the korean one very well.
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lee365
Profile Joined December 2010
United States448 Posts
August 24 2012 22:44 GMT
#535
I think the GOM players should go back for this OSL and aim for Ro4 placements or higher. That way they still have leverage should Kespa go back on their word and refuse to let their players participate in GSL season 5.
Terran Fighting! NoSoupfOu.517
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 24 2012 22:45 GMT
#536
On August 25 2012 07:38 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


They are not ready though.

See the fast approaching PlayOff is coming.

Lots of teams will priotize that over anything else.

And if players are not focused on it, then results will suffer.

Someone gave an example of coaching asking B-teamer to help A-teamers practicing for PL but then B-teamer will be too preocuppied with GSL qualifiers.

In that case, it is understandable why the teams have made such decision.

Abide by the team's rule = sure salary
going to GSL = a financial risk.

I'm sure that how RorO thought of it when the interviewers touched upon the topic.


Four teams won't even be in playoffs and two of those in don't play until after later on. Qualifiers are on Sept 5th and Code A is broadcasted on a Tuesday so it is really a non-issue.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:47:08
August 24 2012 22:46 GMT
#537
On August 25 2012 07:43 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


2 months ago, KeSPA sent their star players to an US event for the first time in history.

They're embracing the international scene, but they're not embracing the korean one very well.

I am not sure about the embracing the internationa scene part. I am not going to watch any match that involves KeSPA players until this thing is sorted out, and I am sure many other internationals are similarly pissed off at KeSPA.
CreationSoul
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania231 Posts
August 24 2012 22:47 GMT
#538
well i think kespa should let their players do as they please. i feel bad for those who fail to qualify for osl and instead of having a chance at another tournament... they just sit... and train
Quitting is the easy way out...
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 24 2012 22:48 GMT
#539
On August 25 2012 07:45 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:38 Xiphos wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


They are not ready though.

See the fast approaching PlayOff is coming.

Lots of teams will priotize that over anything else.

And if players are not focused on it, then results will suffer.

Someone gave an example of coaching asking B-teamer to help A-teamers practicing for PL but then B-teamer will be too preocuppied with GSL qualifiers.

In that case, it is understandable why the teams have made such decision.

Abide by the team's rule = sure salary
going to GSL = a financial risk.

I'm sure that how RorO thought of it when the interviewers touched upon the topic.


Four teams won't even be in playoffs and two of those in don't play until after later on. Qualifiers are on Sept 5th and Code A is broadcasted on a Tuesday so it is really a non-issue.


But currently teams are still fighting hard for that spot. If players are allowed to participate in GSLs, they would still affects the standings. And as for now 6/8 are in that position. And 6/8 is the majority of the organization. So to keep it fair among themselves, the entire entity have decided upon this choice.
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:57:19
August 24 2012 22:53 GMT
#540
On August 25 2012 07:38 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:21 Damnight wrote:
KeSPA is stuck in 2006, evolve please and embrace the international scene Oo


They are not ready though.

See the fast approaching PlayOff is coming.

Lots of teams will priotize that over anything else.

And if players are not focused on it, then results will suffer.


Someone gave an example of coaching asking B-teamer to help A-teamers practicing for PL but then B-teamer will be too preocuppied with GSL qualifiers.

In that case, it is understandable why the teams have made such decision.

Abide by the team's rule = sure salary
going to GSL = a financial risk.

I'm sure that how RorO thought of it when the interviewers touched upon the topic.


Then that's an in-team issue, not a KeSPA issue, as far as I can see. The coaches discuss that with their teams, not some suits in a penthouse. It's just like the GSL/GSTL vs. MLG/IPL/DH. SlayerS (for example) themselves decide whether or not Ryung is better off focusing on GSTL or going out to that MLG. GOM or the ESF don't decide that in their place.
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