EPTeSports federation players defer OSL participation - Page 53
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:12 monkybone wrote: I imagine Dustin Browder yelling at them through a video call and threatening to ban them all from the servers if they don't play nice. Or that he would force destructible rocks upon them. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4546 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:09 Medrea wrote: State of the art technology has revealed Mr. Chae's reaction to Kespa backing down. His plan in 09' was to plant GOM players in OSL so that Kespa wouldnt be able to leverage players against him when the day came that Kespa would try to shoulder GOM out. Mr. Chae, well played. Now we just need the names of those on the Kespa board... I kid, i kid ;D | ||
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iiGreetings
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Fusilero
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On August 24 2012 22:12 monkybone wrote: I imagine Dustin Browder yelling at them through a video call and threatening to ban them all from the servers if they don't play nice. If they didn't get along all kespa teams in hots have destructible rocks in their main. | ||
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attackmoveftw
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On August 24 2012 22:07 setzer wrote: I shouldn't even take my time responding to a guy named "BrosephBrostar" but I suppose I will since you seem to be pretty ignorant. These players made shit, nothing, nilch, nada, when they were on KeSPA before. That's why they left. After making money in GSL and having the opportunity to freely play in whatever International tournaments they choose, why would they EVER want to go back to a repressive organization like KeSPA and earn shit money again? If KeSPA teams were so loaded with cash and sponsorship opportunities they wouldn't be down to 7 teams and wouldn't have lost over half its progaming base in the last two years. They made shit because they were B-Teamers. So what, they won some money while the A-Team were still playing BW. The prize money system still prevents bad players from making money plus they don't even provide lodge and food like KeSPa B-Teamers. You may think eSF is the great benevolent savior for players against the big bad KeSPa but in reality, it only suits top players and is worse for lower ranked players. In fact, in the future, eSF players might thank KeSPa for preventing all its players from gobbling up all the prize money in foreign tournaments. | ||
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seoul_kiM
United States545 Posts
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xelnaga_empire
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On August 24 2012 22:09 OpticalShot wrote: Jeez, now will all of you put your pitchforks down? As I stated in the earlier thread (of the same issue) it was just a business decision due to lack of detailed schedule planning (source: Fomos Source, Not Allowed to Translate) and they clearly stated, at least publicly, that they're not trying to create a feud with GOM or the ESF (source: Another Fomos Source, Not Allowed to Translate). Both of these Fomos articles popped up overnight or something, I didn't see them yesterday. As linked many times, according to This DES Article, KeSPA stated on the 24th (today) that they will send eligible players from ALL teams (stated explicitly in the article as "all teams") to participate in the next GSL (next as in Season 5). They also added that they don't want any more tension in the scene, but that's most likely a PR statement lol. It's not as simple as a scheduling conflict. You must be have the foresight of a blindman if you really think it was only based on the scheduling conflict. As per Fxopenboss's blog, yes GOM was sluggish in getting out their schedule to KESPA. But if you read ESF's official response, it was apparent that GOM was willing to compromise to get the KESPA players in, including giving seeds to KESPA players, etc. KESPA simply tried to undercut GOM and gambled the backlash wouldn't be as bad as it would be. Well, the backlash was more than KESPA imagined, so KESPA, to save face, puts out a statement to say they will participate in GSL season 5. At this point in time, probably to save face, KESPA won't reverse its decision on GSL season 4. I don't know why you are such an ardent KESPA supporter. They are simply doing harm to SC2 and e-sports. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On August 24 2012 21:55 PatouPower wrote: Omg, this is gonna be really bad. I understand that ESF is doing this to protect their players so that Kespa cannot do what they want with everyone and control the ESF players, but like someone said above, it's gonna hurt OSL, aka OGN, more than anything. By announcing their decision, even if it was a big jerk and douchebag move, Kespa didn't damage the GSL at all, except for maybe pulling away a couple of Jaedong/Flash/Bisu fangirls and some viewers. But at least they told them in time and, anyways, GSL has more than enough players to fill all the spots (since there is an open qualification process). I still think that this "war" is gonna be more harmful to the ESF players than to the Kespa ones since the former (at least the top players like MC, MVP, MKP) have a lot more chances to win when the leagues are mixed up, while the chances of a Kespa player winning or advancing in the GSL are rather small. Anyways, I hope that all of this is going to settle up, even if Blizzard needs to intervene. This is so retarded that everyone gets penalized in the end because one organisation wants total control over their players who are able to take care of themselves anyways. EDIT: Someone should update the OP to let everyone know about the recent turn of events. Anyways, even if it's settled for now, this is just a pushing the confrontation back and I think it's gonna come back every time there is a major event and Kespa feels that their control is slipping away. This. ESF's move was really harsh in comparison to Kespa's. As far as I understood it wasnt even a contract that said *in Season 4 we will let our players play*. I assume it was a Kespa-sided decision and that they just had their usual trouble communicating it. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:12 BrosephBrostar wrote: They won prize money by switching to SC2. Have we already forgotten jokes about zenex not getting to eat if their players didn't place in the money? A player like flash has a higher salary than most sc2 teams combined. Keep up the good fight though. Don't let the man get you down. Are you using flash's salary as evidence that b-teamers are paid and treated well? | ||
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blamekilly
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Even with the recent announcement of Kespa players being able to compete in GSL 5, I don't see this ending well. eSF are showing that they are an uncontrollable bunch that will let their emotions control their actions. Who says something like this won't happen again? | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:07 setzer wrote: I shouldn't even take my time responding to a guy named "BrosephBrostar" but I suppose I will since you seem to be pretty ignorant. These players made shit, nothing, nilch, nada, when they were on KeSPA before. That's why they left. After making money in GSL and having the opportunity to freely play in whatever International tournaments they choose, why would they EVER want to go back to a repressive organization like KeSPA and earn shit money again? If KeSPA teams were so loaded with cash and sponsorship opportunities they wouldn't be down to 7 teams and wouldn't have lost over half its progaming base in the last two years. does nada mean nothing?? | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:17 xelnaga_empire wrote: It's not as simple as a scheduling conflict. You must be have the foresight of a blindman if you really think it was only based on the scheduling conflict. As per Fxopenboss's blog, yes GOM was sluggish in getting out their schedule to KESPA. But if you read ESF's official response, it was apparent that GOM was willing to compromise to get the KESPA players in, including giving seeds to KESPA players, etc. KESPA simply tried to undercut GOM and gambled the backlash wouldn't be as bad as it would be. Well, the backlash was more than KESPA imagined, so KESPA, to save face, puts out a statement to say they will participate in GSL season 5. At this point in time, probably to save face, KESPA won't reverse its decision on GSL season 4. I don't know why you are such an ardent KESPA supporter. They are simply doing harm to SC2 and e-sports. I added more details to my original post, please check. It's speculations versus statements, take your pick. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
yep. | ||
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