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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1895 Posts
August 24 2012 10:32 GMT
#561
more drama incoming... it's quite saddening to see kespa (at least that's how it seems) backing out on an agreement they made just a few months ago... I hope Blizzard can negotiate between the two parties.

This is just hurting esports and who wants that?!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
August 24 2012 10:32 GMT
#562
On August 24 2012 19:30 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 19:27 FataLe wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:25 leveller wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote:
What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people.


the "teams" ARE kespa.

? no, there's got to be a hierarchy. kespa players were fed up with kespa long before this, meaning if they had any power they would have done something. but they didn't = no power.

You seem to not understand what it means to be a part of a professional team...

yea i don't think i do.
hi. big fan.
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
August 24 2012 10:32 GMT
#563
damn koreans with their shitty stuff, why dont let all players play the league they want to -.-
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 10:33:38
August 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#564
NVM
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#565
On August 24 2012 19:31 Fubi wrote:
wtf, is it me or does this hurt their own players a lot as well (EFS's players); afaik, it's most of their dream to be playing in an OSL, and there is a huge chance that one of them will win it as well. Must be REALLY disappointing for them to give up this chance.


Or perhaps they realized there is something more important than holding one particular trophy that was much more prestigious in BW than in SC2.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#566
On August 24 2012 19:29 babysimba wrote:
If things were to go right, GOM players are supposed to receive more exposure in the korean scene which could potentially gain them more sponsors. Kespa is probably trying to deny them and keep the money within their own teams instead. GOM players have almost nothing to lose through this move.

I bet Kespa players themselves are secretly rooting for ESF instead. Schedule clashes, overworked are just excuses. If they have more freedom to choose what they want to participate, they can choose what they want to join and not join. Different players have different schedule preferences and amount of stamina. Open competition between tournaments is good for the overall development of e-sports. Weird how nobody comments on MLG getting fucked indirectly too :D


kespa players have never liked kespa...... everyone except for some are supporting ESF atm
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yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany414 Posts
August 24 2012 10:34 GMT
#567
well, this little sc2 adventure will soon be over
valentine1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 10:34:43
August 24 2012 10:34 GMT
#568
On August 24 2012 19:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
The commentators are so biased


wolf and khaldor? they do work for GSL and aren't very happy with the situation and why should they be?
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 24 2012 10:34 GMT
#569
I fucking hate KeSPA. Everything was going so well. T_T
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 10:35:42
August 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#570
On August 24 2012 19:32 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 19:31 Chenz wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:27 FataLe wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:25 leveller wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote:
What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people.


the "teams" ARE kespa.

? no, there's got to be a hierarchy. kespa players were fed up with kespa long before this, meaning if they had any power they would have done something. but they didn't = no power.

AFAIK KeSPA are the sponsors. Essentially, Samsung and the Korean telecom companies are trying to kill the competition. I know what brand my next phone wont be.

okay if the sponsors are running the show that really sucks. they're pretty screwed imo.

I don't really think they are so much acting for sponsors, but rather their own ego trip on this. Still, I don't think I can forgive Samsung if this turns badly.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
August 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#571
On August 24 2012 19:33 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 19:29 babysimba wrote:
If things were to go right, GOM players are supposed to receive more exposure in the korean scene which could potentially gain them more sponsors. Kespa is probably trying to deny them and keep the money within their own teams instead. GOM players have almost nothing to lose through this move.

I bet Kespa players themselves are secretly rooting for ESF instead. Schedule clashes, overworked are just excuses. If they have more freedom to choose what they want to participate, they can choose what they want to join and not join. Different players have different schedule preferences and amount of stamina. Open competition between tournaments is good for the overall development of e-sports. Weird how nobody comments on MLG getting fucked indirectly too :D


kespa players have never liked kespa...... everyone except for some are supporting ESF atm


none of them are, I can assure you that.
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Atropin
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany96 Posts
August 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#572
Good move.
Wer andern in die Möse beißt ist böse meist
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13037 Posts
August 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#573
You know the saying when Gom and KESPA are arguing a 3rd party profits ( Riot/LoL)
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Humbalumba
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany463 Posts
August 24 2012 10:35 GMT
#574
Damn that escalated quickly.

But maybe ESF can hold up against KeSPA, hopefully. Maybe with the help of black magic. And souls of unborn children as sacrafices to the dark voodo gods.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
August 24 2012 10:36 GMT
#575
damn this whole situation sucks

I cant really blame ESF as they are protecting GSL's interests
For the Swarm * DRG *
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 24 2012 10:36 GMT
#576
Wow I thought about this the other day as a response to Kespa being a bit shitty with their choice earlier this week. But I was thinking to myself "GSL have no control over their players though, so I don't think they can do that?"

Completely forgot about the Esports Fed. That's awesome, I'm so happy for GOM that they dont have to put up with this bs silently.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#577
Omg T.T
John 15:13
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#578
On August 24 2012 19:31 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 19:27 FataLe wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:25 leveller wrote:
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote:
What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people.


the "teams" ARE kespa.

? no, there's got to be a hierarchy. kespa players were fed up with kespa long before this, meaning if they had any power they would have done something. but they didn't = no power.

AFAIK KeSPA are the sponsors. Essentially, Samsung and the Korean telecom companies are trying to kill the competition. I know what brand my next phone wont be.

Edit: I'm really not an expert on the BW scene, but I've heard this stated a couple of times on TL.

I'm sure Samsung will shed a tear because Chenz from Sweden won't buy a Samsung cellphone...
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#579
What I'm wondering is this: why are the ESF teams so loyal to GSL? Sure, it was their big break, and they enjoyed a lot of attention the last two years, but do they really value this relationship with GOM over the pure selfish value of jumping ship?

I mean, surely it would be strictly in their interest if the ESF teams all abandoned the GSL and instead participated only in the OSL, which would then become the centrepiece for SC2. So why have they instead decided to leave OSL and stick with GSL? Surely it has to be more than loyalty and friendship.

But if it really is out of pure loyalty, then I would think that the ESF teams are to be commended, even if it turns out that, in the long run, this is a bad move for the SC2 scene in general.
Fleuria
Profile Joined April 2011
England466 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#580
On August 24 2012 19:34 Qeet wrote:
well, this little sc2 adventure will soon be over


problem is kespa can't go back to brood war anyway as they don't hold the licence and blizzard can just take them to court and ruin them like they were going to last time before they decided to switch and agree to all this that now they have gone back on.
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