EPTStephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 48
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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything. | ||
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DeCoder
Finland236 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15394 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:42 latan wrote: Is Raidcall really "Major" tho? I'm asking honestly. The more a sponsor pays, the more exposure they get. A sponsor being a part of their name implies its a hefty relationship. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:31 WolfintheSheep wrote: "Less fortunate teams"? What the hell does that mean? EG works their asses off to get sponsors, to make money, and to make sure that they're generating enough revenue to keep expanding the business. 100% of EGs business is from their pro-gaming teams. What you really mean is "lazy" teams, ones that you can't even identify the sponsors for. The voice of reason. Do you think EG is funded by a fucking billionaire Russian oil tycoon who dishes out millions to pick up players? What EG is doing is awesome and deserves to be emulated by other teams, whether it be their marketing strategies, strong management organization, and so on. Look, I understand why people do not want to see all the top players migrating towards one team. But what do people mean when they say less fortunate or "lesser" teams in general? You mean, the teams who are not as competent as EG in building the proper foundation for attracting the best players? The fact that EG is able to recruit players like this is the ultimate example of how SC teams should be run. I am happy for Stephano. He's a great player who deserves to be rewarded. Don't think for a second you are in position to judge what is going to happen to his motivation. | ||
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Finnz
United Kingdom260 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:52 OneOther wrote: The voice of reason. Do you think EG is funded by a fucking billionaire Russian oil tycoon who dishes out millions to pick up players? What EG is doing is awesome and deserves to be emulated by other teams, whether it be their marketing strategies, strong management organization, and so on. Look, I understand why people do not want to see all the top players migrating towards one team. But what do people mean when they say less fortunate or "lesser" teams in general? You mean, the teams who are not as competent as EG in building the proper foundation for attracting the best players? The fact that EG is able to recruit players like this is the ultimate example of how SC teams should be run. I am happy for Stephano. He's a great player who deserves to be rewarded. Don't think for a second you are in position to judge what is going to happen to his motivation. You need to understand is that young people are often critical towards a capitalistic system that tends to sell everything for little to no apparent reason. EG is considered the big bad guy because they are doing an aggressive advertising campaign which could be linked to those of BP (for example). There is an explanation for the hate ... | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
At this point, I associate sponsors with EG and vice versa. When I think of Intel extreme boards, Kingston HyperX, Monster energy and even raidcall now (with the amount of community interaction they been doing) etc, I think of EG but not really any other team. Those sponsors may be sponsors other teams besides EG but I can't recall any of them with ease. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:39 latan wrote: Idra was once the best foreign zerg and had some of the best zvt in the world, where is he at now? Puma was once touted as once of the most promising terrans in the world with the best tvp, where is he at now? JYP was once touted as one of the best protoss in the world with the best PvZ in the world, where is he at now? HuK was once a code S player and in the shortlist for best foreigner, where is he at now? Of course the EG curse is mostly a joke, but don't try to act as if it's not based on actual observations. So you wan't the EG curse to mean a literal curse? as if by just signing a contract with EG magically made you suck at starcraft? of course it's not going to be like that, if EG has any effect on the quality of their players, whether positive or negative, it would OBVIOUSLY take some time to be noticeable. Rather than trying to shut down the EG curse theory (which I remind you it's a joke and not real) try to find examples of players improving under the EG roof. You pulling in the example of IdrA is just more of the melding I was talking about. IdrA was on the team for 1.5 years before the slump started. Such radically different amounts of time before those 4 players supposedly started slumping would make it hard to assume that there's one single force affecting all of those players. It just wouldn't make sense that idra's mindset and practice regimen would only start to be affected by EG after 1.5 years. So that's just one example. But considering how you contradict yourself by saying that the idea of a curse is a joke in the first but I still need to look for counterexamples if I want to disprove it, I'm not sure how to respond to you. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:39 latan wrote: Idra was once the best foreign zerg and had some of the best zvt in the world, where is he at now? Puma was once touted as once of the most promising terrans in the world with the best tvp, where is he at now? JYP was once touted as one of the best protoss in the world with the best PvZ in the world, where is he at now? HuK was once a code S player and in the shortlist for best foreigner, where is he at now? Of course the EG curse is mostly a joke, but don't try to act as if it's not based on actual observations. So you wan't the EG curse to mean a literal curse? as if by just signing a contract with EG magically made you suck at starcraft? of course it's not going to be like that, if EG has any effect on the quality of their players, whether positive or negative, it would OBVIOUSLY take some time to be noticeable. Rather than trying to shut down the EG curse theory (which I remind you it's a joke and not real) try to find examples of players improving under the EG roof. Idra was with EG before his results started going downhill. He was with them during his Ro8 runs in GSL. Puma was picked up after his NASL win which was impressive but not like the most ridiculous thing ever. They just remember him being really good because he beat MC 4-3. Before that he only had GSTL appearances (still hasn't made a GSL) and his only tournament wins were immediately following NASL at 3 European tournaments with 5 or less Koreans in each. RoG Winter 2012 is the only one that is really impressive. This is more the hype train than him seriously being a top level Korean. Jyp - Same thing. He couldn't get out of Code A before joining EG then he reached Code S once before falling right back into Code A in the Ro32. Again he also wasn't one of the best Tosses in the world considering he couldn't win a PvT to save his life in GSL. HuK is the only one who really has a case for an EG curse and that is better explained by him leaving the oGs house for the EG-Slayers house than any stupid curse. When you aren't fluent in Korean its a lot harder to get into a new practice regimen when you have an all new team that you aren't great at communicating with. On topic: Good for Stephano. Hopefully this means we can see him in the GSL soon. | ||
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boxman22
Canada430 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:39 latan wrote: try to find examples of players improving under the EG roof. Try to find examples of players improving under the Yankees. That's just what happens when you have the money to buy players at their peaks. Generally they don't get much better | ||
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:54 Otolia wrote: You need to understand is that young people are often critical towards a capitalistic system that tends to sell everything for little to no apparent reason. EG is considered the big bad guy because they are doing an aggressive advertising campaign which could be linked to those of BP (for example). There is an explanation for the hate ... BP ? As in British Petroleum ? As in Idra starting the war in Iraq and Incontrol is responsible for the ozone layer (all those fart jokes) ? | ||
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ZanXala
Sweden26 Posts
IdrA: fucking everything including mlg win, 2 mlg 4th finishes, 2 top 8 finishes, iem win, iem finals 2nd place, asus rog winner, ipl1 winner ipl2 top 6 ipl3 top 8, 4 consecutive gsls including a top 8 finnish (yeah mostly way old results except for the fall 2011 ones but still under eg) Puma: NASL FUCKING 2 WINNER currently atop mlg player HuK:MLG winner JYP: Not a winner but doing really well including qualifying for code s and scoring several wins for slayers in gstl Suppy: Did way over expectations at asus rog beating kas and ret and almost hero thorzain: won wcs Sweden Demuslim: 2nd at wcs uk, 2nd at wcg european encounter the others are more of frontal characters for the team rather than "pro players" None of these players have done worse since joining eg than they were before save huk, and he won an mlg vs players like thestc and mc in the process so stop fucking around and look up your facts. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:50 DeCoder wrote: EG is like a luxury retirement home for professional players. Only the most accomplished are invited in, and once they they are in there is no going back. Your career will be over, but you don't care since you're busy enjoying a relaxed training regime and the best benefits in the business. Do you consider yourself a smart person? If yes, how is it that you overlooked the fact that 1) they're competitors and motivated to win irrespective of money and 2) that the money motivation is very much still present once you join EG, because you can get a renewed contract and possibly an increase in salary? Let's hear you try to explain those factors away  . | ||
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Mlex
Canada324 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On August 22 2012 04:00 Mlex wrote: I will laugh if Stephano stops producing results and everyone still makes excuses for EG. I will laugh when Stephano keeps winning and producing results and people like you keep making excuses for a curse | ||
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
Good luck man, you deserve it. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On August 22 2012 04:02 ChuCky.Ca wrote: I will laugh when Stephano keeps winning and producing results and people like you keep making excuses for a curse And I can guarantee you that's going to happen. If I was you I would start laughing at him already | ||
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Leetley
1796 Posts
On August 22 2012 04:01 Koshi wrote: Only if EG gets Stephano do actually do GSL. Yeah, I want to see Stephano in GSL so bad. | ||
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