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On August 22 2012 03:28 SyscAll wrote:
HuK was Millenium player
ThorZain was Mousesports player
Stephano was Millenium player
When the money talks, the BEST teams loose the Best players ...
Boring to see EG has so much money...
Huk had another team before mill and went there because they offered more? TZ was also on another team before mousz...and when was mill the best team? o.O
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On August 22 2012 03:28 SyscAll wrote:
HuK was Millenium player
ThorZain was Mousesports player
Stephano was Millenium player
When the money talks, the BEST teams loose the Best players ...
Boring to see EG has so much money...
HuK was in Liquid mr. smurf account.
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On August 22 2012 03:28 SyscAll wrote:
HuK was Millenium player
ThorZain was Mousesports player
Stephano was Millenium player
When the money talks, the BEST teams loose the Best players ...
Boring to see EG has so much money...
And Mouz got him from Prae right? You can't castigate a team for picking up a player, and not do the same when others do it
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Stephano is defiantly the most valuable player in the world to have. Not only do you get the strongest foreigner who has won countless championships, you also get arguably the most popular streamer. Having idra and stephano who are by a long way the two most popular streamers will do great for EG's sponsorship.
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On August 22 2012 03:30 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:28 SyscAll wrote:
HuK was Millenium player
ThorZain was Mousesports player
Stephano was Millenium player
When the money talks, the BEST teams loose the Best players ...
Boring to see EG has so much money... HuK was in Liquid mr. smurf account.
He was in Millenium before Liquid.
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On August 22 2012 03:29 matiK23 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:54 Pokebunny wrote:On August 22 2012 02:39 Unnamed wrote:
Joining EG is probably not a good idea. Players they have never improve. Maybe you will get an "awesome salary", but you will lose your skill. Do you remember Huk? He left Liquid for EG's money, and where he is now? Same with other EG players. They are bad in terms of skill. You will probably have a good chance to become a popular caster though. The amount of cluelessness and lack of logic in posts like these is astounding. It's amazing how hard people to try convince themselves that EG is the bad guy when the reality is that it's not their fault that no other teams can afford what they can. Yet somehow it's evil to offer great players salaries they are deserving of. What EG is doing is really not honorable, not matter how indirectly. Less fortunate teams cannot play SC money ball style because starcraft is not a team based game. Specialists don't really work except in team leagues but individual wins are way more prestigious than ipl tac or gstl. When a team takes all the players that produce results before joining said team, that creates a monopoly because on paper, all the good players are on one team. Thus the EG curse. I call it karma. Universe is working as it should be.
"Less fortunate teams"? What the hell does that mean?
EG works their asses off to get sponsors, to make money, and to make sure that they're generating enough revenue to keep expanding the business. 100% of EGs business is from their pro-gaming teams.
What you really mean is "lazy" teams, ones that you can't even identify the sponsors for.
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On August 22 2012 03:24 boxman22 wrote:
People just like to make up stories and never back them up with data. It happens in literally every thread...
Backing it up with false data isnt any better. HuK won a MLG after he transfered yes but at that point it was impossible for any sort of EG training to have kicked in. During that time his MLG and its placement system was wierd so he got automaticly put in championship sunday reguardless of other results in any seperate MLG.
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On August 22 2012 03:13 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:07 Plansix wrote:On August 22 2012 02:59 torm3ntin wrote:
The salary is so high that players don't feel the urge to win tournaments. That hapenned to Idra, to Huk and probably will happen to Stephano and Thorzain. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as EG doesn't think it's wrong since it's their players and their money.
I do understand they keeping incontrol. He has a natural talent to bring attention to the team, he is such a nice guy.
But then u look at Machine, Lzgamer and they have been with EG forever and never brought any attention to the team, neither results. That's probably why the new players don't get hunger for wins. They look at the team and the guys that have been there for so long and think if they would ever get kicked from the team with guys like machine and lzgamer. I like how you know their salaries and assume that LZgamer and Machine are paid tons of money. Living at the team house is not a huge expense and they all pay for their own food. I also like how you assume it makes people lazy. Getting paid more has never made me work less, but I guess you work by different rules. And if you don't understand why they keep Incontrol, you don't know how PR works or coaching works. Seriously, team captians are rarely the best players on the field. They are the ones who keep the other player's heads in the game. Well we are actually talking about kids earning to play games so yeah i assume they do get lazy as soon as they see more money than what they actually dreamed off. and you actually missread because i said the only one i do understand why they keep in the house is Incontrol exactly for being the good guy he is.
Except that they would be motivated to keep performing well because then they could get their contract renewed or get an even better salary. Not that your theory that progamers are only motivated by money is valid. But hey at least you tried to string some reasoning together into an argument. Next time maybe your logic won't run into a brick wall lol.
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On August 22 2012 03:31 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:30 Cokefreak wrote:On August 22 2012 03:28 SyscAll wrote:
HuK was Millenium player
ThorZain was Mousesports player
Stephano was Millenium player
When the money talks, the BEST teams loose the Best players ...
Boring to see EG has so much money... HuK was in Liquid mr. smurf account. He was in Millenium before Liquid.
And VT before MIll... so in other words every team tries to buy who they can... -_-
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on an arbitrary, subjective, and slightly related note
I'm surprised EG is throwing money at another player when they have three highly skilled players who have largely fallen off the radar. JYP, Puma, and surprisingly HuK.
where the fuck are these guys? you see them at a tournament and after a quick exit they are never heard from again.
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On August 22 2012 03:32 ShinyCoin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:24 boxman22 wrote:
People just like to make up stories and never back them up with data. It happens in literally every thread... Backing it up with false data isnt any better. HuK won a MLG after he transfered yes but at that point it was impossible for any sort of EG training to have kicked in. During that time his MLG and its placement system was wierd so he got automaticly put in championship sunday reguardless of other results in any seperate MLG.
How about the 5th and 3rd then? Or quarterfinals in the NASL if you want something that he had to qualify from scratch...
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On August 22 2012 03:26 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:03 solidONE wrote:On August 22 2012 02:42 NanoSC wrote:
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.
Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
Do you really think that being over-compensated for what you're worth doesn't make you soft as a player? It's not some voodoo curse, it's people losing drive. Over-compensated? Based on what? Your arbitrary value of players? EG pays players based on what they think they'll get for RoI. And considering that EG still has money to buy big players, I'd say they do a much better job than you do.
That's entirely subjective when it comes to the value of the player. EG sees more value in them. Great, more power to them. There is no salary cap so keep it coming.
The real differences are between the work environments and the philosophies of the teams.
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Just logical. Nothing else. EG is one of most established foreign teams all over the world, they although offer a great roster of sponsors/partners. It's now Stephano's opportunity to get as much money as possible until he thinks of a retirment.
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as Destiny put it: "Has HuK retired or something? what the fuck."
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On August 21 2012 21:06 CruelZeratul wrote:Stephano slump incoming? 
Probably. lol. How much money does EG really have though if they're able to afford all these great players? Puma, Huk Thorzain, now Stephano.
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honestly speaking I dont like this, because there hasnt been a single player who retained or improved his skills after joining EG
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good move for Stephano and EG
won't make them any better in team leagues tho
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On August 22 2012 03:34 Havik_ wrote:Probably. lol. How much money does EG really have though if they're able to afford all these great players? Puma, Huk Thorzain, now Stephano.
does it mean that EG will let people go?
It's a crazy thought considering "EG HAS INFINITE MONEY." but you'd have to think that their resources are running a little thin now.
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On August 22 2012 03:24 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:23 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 22 2012 02:54 Pokebunny wrote:On August 22 2012 02:39 Unnamed wrote:
Joining EG is probably not a good idea. Players they have never improve. Maybe you will get an "awesome salary", but you will lose your skill. Do you remember Huk? He left Liquid for EG's money, and where he is now? Same with other EG players. They are bad in terms of skill. You will probably have a good chance to become a popular caster though. The amount of cluelessness and lack of logic in posts like these is astounding. It's amazing how hard people to try convince themselves that EG is the bad guy when the reality is that it's not their fault that no other teams can afford what they can. Yet somehow it's evil to offer great players salaries they are deserving of. Its hilarious actually. What even more hilarious some people actually believe the EG curse is real. I'm very happy for Stephano and congratulation to EG. Getting Stephano must be a dream come true for them . I'm a bit sad for Millenium but they will do fine they always have. I'm wondering how much money we talking about. I been reading insane numbers l8tly I can't see how any drop in Stephano's level can happen due to a lack of practice anyway, I mean according to some he doesn't even practice at all right?
Haha, But coming back to all serious mode nothing will happened with Stephano he is a one man army he actually don't even need a team to improve or maintain his high level.
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On August 22 2012 03:27 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:26 StarStruck wrote:On August 22 2012 03:25 stratmatt wrote:On August 22 2012 03:24 StarStruck wrote:On August 22 2012 03:22 stratmatt wrote:On August 22 2012 03:19 StarStruck wrote:On August 22 2012 03:14 stratmatt wrote:
Thank god csgo is gonna jumpstart cs once again, I think im jumping off this sc2 ship for good. This community is very ignorant. See ya, I think it's funny that you think it would be any different there. It will be. Cs community likes seeing the top players get what they deserve. I cannot help but lol fps guys are just as seething man with regards to everything. There will be hot heads no matter where you go. lol there are no hotheads here, just kids who dont understand economics. No hot heads in CS? I must be Mars and you must be from Venus. o-O No hotheads on this forum.
I like absolutes.
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