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On August 22 2012 02:39 Unnamed wrote:
Joining EG is probably not a good idea. Players they have never improve. Maybe you will get an "awesome salary", but you will lose your skill. Do you remember Huk? He left Liquid for EG's money, and where he is now? Same with other EG players. They are bad in terms of skill. You will probably have a good chance to become a popular caster though.
The amount of cluelessness and lack of logic in posts like these is astounding. It's amazing how hard people to try convince themselves that EG is the bad guy when the reality is that it's not their fault that no other teams can afford what they can. Yet somehow it's evil to offer great players salaries they are deserving of.
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whatever happens and I hope you will continue following me, regardless my new team.
Well if that quote doesn't give it away, nothing does. 
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On August 22 2012 02:42 NanoSC wrote:
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.
Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
Well people are being stupid when they say that. They seem to forget Puma's good results for the first 6 or so months when he joined EG, all of idra's tournament wins when he was with EG and good results in GSL/MLG all were with EG but they seem to forget that.
I find it irritating to read as it's like they did really good lol.
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On August 22 2012 02:43 Kergy wrote:Wonder if EG stole KT Rolster's secret machine but just can't get it working right and all the consumed skills are being wasted 
What did the KT Rolster machine do?
Take all the skill from everyone and transfer it to one player?
Did KT have one star and no other good players becides?
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Well its sad for millenium, but I hope he joins EG, he deserves a stable team imo. And a good salary too =)
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On August 22 2012 02:58 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:43 Kergy wrote:Wonder if EG stole KT Rolster's secret machine but just can't get it working right and all the consumed skills are being wasted What did the KT Rolster machine do? Take all the skill from everyone and transfer it to one player? Did KT have one star and no other good players becides?
They got called KTflash for a while for a reason.
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The salary is so high that players don't feel the urge to win tournaments. That hapenned to Idra, to Huk and probably will happen to Stephano and Thorzain. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as EG doesn't think it's wrong since it's their players and their money.
I do understand they keeping incontrol. He has a natural talent to bring attention to the team, he is such a nice guy.
But then u look at Machine, Lzgamer and they have been with EG forever and never brought any attention to the team, neither results. That's probably why the new players don't get hunger for wins. They look at the team and the guys that have been there for so long and think if they would ever get kicked from the team with guys like machine and lzgamer.
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On August 22 2012 02:58 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:43 Kergy wrote:Wonder if EG stole KT Rolster's secret machine but just can't get it working right and all the consumed skills are being wasted What did the KT Rolster machine do? Take all the skill from everyone and transfer it to one player? Did KT have one star and no other good players becides?
Well KT has flash... but they also have Stats, Action, Violet, Crazy-Hydra, Hoejja etc
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On August 22 2012 02:46 enemy2010 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 21:01 s.a.y wrote:
Stephano will probably have a six figure contract like HuK so he does not even have to win any tournaments. ....well, just like HuK. Seriously though, in my opinion EG is like a black hole of esports. Good player get in and never show up again (at top places in tournaments). I hate how they miss so many opportunities with they team house.
Funny considering your supposed favorite team is EG. Look at EVERY other foreign team out there. How are their players doing? What do you think of Root? Are they a black hole? How about TL other than Hero or Taeja? Huk and Ret have similar results post TL days so yah.. what about the rest of team Millenium or any other team? EG is doing just as well or better than all the other teams. Your post is misguided but that doesnt matter to internet whiners.
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And he really seemed to enjoy the TSL house
But I feel like Stephano would get along with anyone so I guess its not a really big deal ...
GL where ever he ends up.
On August 22 2012 03:01 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:46 enemy2010 wrote:On August 21 2012 21:01 s.a.y wrote:
Stephano will probably have a six figure contract like HuK so he does not even have to win any tournaments. ....well, just like HuK. Seriously though, in my opinion EG is like a black hole of esports. Good player get in and never show up again (at top places in tournaments). I hate how they miss so many opportunities with they team house. Funny considering your supposed favorite team is EG. Look at EVERY other foreign team out there. How are their players doing? What do you think of Root? Are they a black hole? How about TL other than Hero or Taeja? Huk and Ret have similar results post TL days so yah.. what about the rest of team Millenium or any other team? EG is doing just as well or better than all the other teams. Your post is misguided but that doesnt matter to internet whiners.
Oh my god YES! I love you ♥ Exactly this. This isn't an 'EG curse' or 'EG thing' it's an EVERY team thing with a few exceptions.
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On August 22 2012 02:50 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:44 Plansix wrote:On August 22 2012 02:39 Doodsmack wrote:
Would the people hopping on the EG hate bandwagon please stop embarrassing yourselves and the community. You are contributing to the bad side/vocal minority of the community that everyone always laments. If you're dishing out general EG criticism and talking about the so-called curse in this thread, then make no mistake, you're a drama queen. You're inserting negativity into a thread where it's off topic. I know it might seem trendy to hate EG, and you might think it's fun to throw gas on a drama fire, but maybe be a little more mature with your posts. Actually why don't you just get the fuck out of the thread and go play SC2, the community would be better off. Agreed. Most of us are waiting to see how EG does at MLG, but I guess the drama queens need something to do until then. Like every MLG people expect a lot from them and each time they have mixed results. For a team that spends its time running around telling the world they consider themselves as the best, it's a little bit disappointing.
Mix results like Team Liquid, complexity and every other non-korean team gets. EG is not special, they lose to koreans too. Team Liquid has a number of European players who did not do well in WCS Europe. But EG took second place.
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On August 22 2012 02:54 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:12 Zealos wrote:On August 22 2012 01:56 Cloud9157 wrote:On August 22 2012 01:48 mrtomjones wrote:On August 22 2012 00:02 Godwrath wrote:On August 22 2012 00:00 seoul_kiM wrote:
Is it really unfathomable to you ignorant ingrates that someone who has worked so hard go take a better offer? Huh ? Best offer is subjective. If his choice won't make him grow as a player, i don't see why people would keep rooting for him as a player. That's funny because EG gives it's players a ton of resources to improve as players and takes them all over the world. The only possible thing that could be a negative playing wise of being on EG is having to do sponsor type work which might give you less practice time. But considering Stephano isnt the type to do 12 hour days I'd guess it wouldnt hurt him. Look how much good that did Thorzain+Huk. Oh EG... Silly team that tries to buy the successful players. What is this post!?!! Do people not think anymore. Thorzain hasn't even been in EG long, and his skill level certainly hasn't deteriorated since joining. Huk's slump didn't start till long after joining EG, so that point is pretty damn irrelevant too. Why isn't anyone complaining about the Liquid curse because Zenio hasn't really performed recently? It's just stupid guys, Stephano will continue to perform great, regardless of his team. Thorzain wins a tournament, joins EG, and then does nothing for Several months. He qualifies for TSL only to get demolished by Hasuobs(very underrated EU Protoss granted) 3-0 in the first round. Huk is one of the only non-Koreans to win an mlg excluding Naniwa winning Dallas, signs with EG, and then falls off the face of the Earth. Literally, I haven't heard any notable achievement he has accomplished since joining EG. Liquid is at least more consistent. Zenio was already a Code A Zerg player that turned hot AFTER joining Liquid. But he did just that: got hot, and was on a nice streak, before crashing back down. Thorzain and Huk were easily two of the top foreigners before joining EG. Now they're pretty much nothing.
Huk won a 2nd MLG and thorzain won WCS Sweden. You're not smart, bud.
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On August 22 2012 02:59 torm3ntin wrote:
The salary is so high that players don't feel the urge to win tournaments. That hapenned to Idra, to Huk and probably will happen to Stephano and Thorzain. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as EG doesn't think it's wrong since it's their players and their money.
I do understand they keeping incontrol. He has a natural talent to bring attention to the team, he is such a nice guy.
But then u look at Machine, Lzgamer and they have been with EG forever and never brought any attention to the team, neither results. That's probably why the new players don't get hunger for wins. They look at the team and the guys that have been there for so long and think if they would ever get kicked from the team with guys like machine and lzgamer.
So you are saying that winnings which could make up over half of your earnings if you make six figures are not desirable enough to people like Huk(Who REALLY want to win) to motivate him to work hard? LOL.
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Well, that's sad. I'm sure it's a great career move for Stephano but I will always be an EG anti-fan, so it's kind of disappointing. I wish more teams had the sponsorships to compete with EG, but as it is, they just can't be matched when they are set on picking up a player. Not that it has really seemed to help as far as results are concerned.
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On August 22 2012 02:54 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:12 Zealos wrote:On August 22 2012 01:56 Cloud9157 wrote:On August 22 2012 01:48 mrtomjones wrote:On August 22 2012 00:02 Godwrath wrote:On August 22 2012 00:00 seoul_kiM wrote:
Is it really unfathomable to you ignorant ingrates that someone who has worked so hard go take a better offer? Huh ? Best offer is subjective. If his choice won't make him grow as a player, i don't see why people would keep rooting for him as a player. That's funny because EG gives it's players a ton of resources to improve as players and takes them all over the world. The only possible thing that could be a negative playing wise of being on EG is having to do sponsor type work which might give you less practice time. But considering Stephano isnt the type to do 12 hour days I'd guess it wouldnt hurt him. Look how much good that did Thorzain+Huk. Oh EG... Silly team that tries to buy the successful players. What is this post!?!! Do people not think anymore. Thorzain hasn't even been in EG long, and his skill level certainly hasn't deteriorated since joining. Huk's slump didn't start till long after joining EG, so that point is pretty damn irrelevant too. Why isn't anyone complaining about the Liquid curse because Zenio hasn't really performed recently? It's just stupid guys, Stephano will continue to perform great, regardless of his team. Thorzain wins a tournament, joins EG, and then does nothing for Several months. He qualifies for TSL only to get demolished by Hasuobs(very underrated EU Protoss granted) 3-0 in the first round. Huk is one of the only non-Koreans to win an mlg excluding Naniwa winning Dallas, signs with EG, and then falls off the face of the Earth. Literally, I haven't heard any notable achievement he has accomplished since joining EG. Liquid is at least more consistent. Zenio was already a Code A Zerg player that turned hot AFTER joining Liquid. But he did just that: got hot, and was on a nice streak, before crashing back down. Thorzain and Huk were easily two of the top foreigners before joining EG. Now they're pretty much nothing.
You conveniently forgot the part where Thorzain won WCS Sweden beating Naniwa, Morrow, and SortOf.
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On August 22 2012 02:42 NanoSC wrote:
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.
Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
Do you really think that being over-compensated for what you're worth doesn't make you soft as a player? It's not some voodoo curse, it's people losing drive.
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On August 22 2012 02:42 NanoSC wrote:
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.
Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
It's because Liquid has a more favorable light than EG when they targeted players who were already under contract with another team etc.
Jon-o lost his passion for the game long ago and that was a relatively short stint man if you look at the old GSL format and the fact he just won Dallas so I don't get the point you are trying to make.
I don't think EG is capable of grooming players who aren't already stars into winners. Let's see what they do with Suppy as before he was picked up he was an emerging star. Other than that, they don't really have anyone on roster who is either a) emerging or b) homebred.
They aren't in the business to raise stars who don't already have starpower attached to them.
What people are saying is no different than what people say about Artosis when he selects a player and they lose or what Kim Carrier does. So and so will win yet they almost always lose.
Fortunately for EG Stephano probably has the skills to make this not effect him so much considering his mindset and how he already practices.
Thing is once the KeSPA teams takeoff. They'll really take off.
On August 22 2012 03:03 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:54 Cloud9157 wrote:On August 22 2012 02:12 Zealos wrote:On August 22 2012 01:56 Cloud9157 wrote:On August 22 2012 01:48 mrtomjones wrote:On August 22 2012 00:02 Godwrath wrote:On August 22 2012 00:00 seoul_kiM wrote:
Is it really unfathomable to you ignorant ingrates that someone who has worked so hard go take a better offer? Huh ? Best offer is subjective. If his choice won't make him grow as a player, i don't see why people would keep rooting for him as a player. That's funny because EG gives it's players a ton of resources to improve as players and takes them all over the world. The only possible thing that could be a negative playing wise of being on EG is having to do sponsor type work which might give you less practice time. But considering Stephano isnt the type to do 12 hour days I'd guess it wouldnt hurt him. Look how much good that did Thorzain+Huk. Oh EG... Silly team that tries to buy the successful players. What is this post!?!! Do people not think anymore. Thorzain hasn't even been in EG long, and his skill level certainly hasn't deteriorated since joining. Huk's slump didn't start till long after joining EG, so that point is pretty damn irrelevant too. Why isn't anyone complaining about the Liquid curse because Zenio hasn't really performed recently? It's just stupid guys, Stephano will continue to perform great, regardless of his team. Thorzain wins a tournament, joins EG, and then does nothing for Several months. He qualifies for TSL only to get demolished by Hasuobs(very underrated EU Protoss granted) 3-0 in the first round. Huk is one of the only non-Koreans to win an mlg excluding Naniwa winning Dallas, signs with EG, and then falls off the face of the Earth. Literally, I haven't heard any notable achievement he has accomplished since joining EG. Liquid is at least more consistent. Zenio was already a Code A Zerg player that turned hot AFTER joining Liquid. But he did just that: got hot, and was on a nice streak, before crashing back down. Thorzain and Huk were easily two of the top foreigners before joining EG. Now they're pretty much nothing. You conveniently forgot the part where Thorzain won WCS Sweden beating Naniwa, Morrow, and SortOf.
That's not a major championship as I pointed out earlier before. Several pages ago in fact just look at my posting history in this thread and you'll find it.
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On August 21 2012 23:54 ReboundEU wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 23:00 VelJa wrote:
Sad Day for French esport scene.
BTW i hope that he will avoid the EGCurse.
GL Steph! How is it sad when a Frenchman will be payed atleast 50 times better then what mill offered him and also offer him all he needs to travel anywhere and represent your country as a Frenchman in any competition he desires and improve his play doing so? Seriously some of u have issues sry to say this.
So if every single american player would have been bought by lets say, Russian teams, with much better salary, americans would be ecstatic right? By the way I dont give a fuck about him leaving a french team, but can understand why other people would, you're the only one here who have issues, "sry"
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On August 22 2012 03:03 solidONE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:42 NanoSC wrote:
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.
Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
Do you really think that being over-compensated for what you're worth doesn't make you soft as a player? It's not some voodoo curse, it's people losing drive.
That's why all the highly paid KESPA players suck
oh wait
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