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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything.
Unnamed
Profile Joined December 2010
148 Posts
August 21 2012 17:39 GMT
#821
Joining EG is probably not a good idea. Players they have never improve. Maybe you will get an "awesome salary", but you will lose your skill. Do you remember Huk? He left Liquid for EG's money, and where he is now? Same with other EG players. They are bad in terms of skill. You will probably have a good chance to become a popular caster though.
Samuel
Profile Joined November 2010
United States35 Posts
August 21 2012 17:41 GMT
#822
I love EG. I do. Not just because of the entertaining personalities, but because a team like this puts pressure on other teams to run like a business. You want to avoid an eSports bubble? Run stable operations with sponsor funding and good PR. You wanna spread the word about eSports? Show outsiders compelling/controversial/entertaining personal story-lines. It's not just the personalities I love, it's the fact that they're taking a very pragmatic, very sports-business oriented approach to the whole endeavor. It gives me hope that eSports will continue to grow.

As for cherry-picking top talent? Salary cap system. Then you don't get the Yankees. Otherwise this would happen in every sport, given unequal funding between organizations.
NanoSC
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway31 Posts
August 21 2012 17:42 GMT
#823
So by people's logic, whenever a good player joins EG this weird curse is put on him where he suddenly doesn't get results. Well, he's still practicing, right? Just as he did at his old team? Or does EG tell their players not to practice to deliberately make their skill level decrease? Me, I bet they're using voodoo to curse their players. Seriously, I fear for people with this logic.

Taeja was hailed as one of SlayerS' most talented players. I bet if he joined EG he'd be lynched. But no, he joined Liquid and people rejoiced. Jinro was good once. He got into a long slump and never recovered. But he didn't go to EG, so no reason to hate on him, right? I really don't get you guys.
- Because I can.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 21 2012 17:42 GMT
#824
On August 22 2012 02:25 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:23 Gladiator333 wrote:
So the era of Stephano will end :p


Do you think posting this will help anything? Like haven't people already said this over and over again in this thread? but you just had to post it? Explain why you think so rather than just post "ok stephano will start to lose now when he joins EG" which is stupid.


I wouldn't say your post is helping anyone more than mine is, why is it that my post needs to help someone? Just ignore it if you don't like my opinions or how I express myself.

As for why I think Stephano's results will get worse with EG, just look at their previous top players that they've recruited. Compared to what their were before joining EG and now is pretty big difference, in both skill wise and attitude.
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
August 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#825
Wonder if EG stole KT Rolster's secret machine but just can't get it working right and all the consumed skills are being wasted
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Nvar
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark150 Posts
August 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#826
I, by all my hearth hope this works out great, Stephano is my favorite Zerg, HuK and ThorZaiN used to be favorite Protoss and Terran, but not so much anymore. Dunno if it has anything to do with EG, or just bad luck. But i hope Stephano will change this, and stay as my favorite Zerg!
Bro's before ho's
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#827
On August 22 2012 02:39 Doodsmack wrote:
Would the people hopping on the EG hate bandwagon please stop embarrassing yourselves and the community. You are contributing to the bad side/vocal minority of the community that everyone always laments. If you're dishing out general EG criticism and talking about the so-called curse in this thread, then make no mistake, you're a drama queen. You're inserting negativity into a thread where it's off topic. I know it might seem trendy to hate EG, and you might think it's fun to throw gas on a drama fire, but maybe be a little more mature with your posts. Actually why don't you just get the fuck out of the thread and go play SC2, the community would be better off.


Agreed. Most of us are waiting to see how EG does at MLG, but I guess the drama queens need something to do until then.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
August 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#828
I don't quite underhand why you guys are still talking about this when EG, yesterday, through their Facebook page, announced that Stephano had joined them....
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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
August 21 2012 17:46 GMT
#829
On August 21 2012 21:01 s.a.y wrote:
Stephano will probably have a six figure contract like HuK so he does not even have to win any tournaments.


....well, just like HuK.

Seriously though, in my opinion EG is like a black hole of esports. Good player get in and never show up again (at top places in tournaments).

I hate how they miss so many opportunities with they team house.
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 21 2012 17:46 GMT
#830
On August 22 2012 02:42 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:25 SilSol wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:23 Gladiator333 wrote:
So the era of Stephano will end :p


Do you think posting this will help anything? Like haven't people already said this over and over again in this thread? but you just had to post it? Explain why you think so rather than just post "ok stephano will start to lose now when he joins EG" which is stupid.


I wouldn't say your post is helping anyone more than mine is, why is it that my post needs to help someone? Just ignore it if you don't like my opinions or how I express myself.

As for why I think Stephano's results will get worse with EG, just look at their previous top players that they've recruited. Compared to what their were before joining EG and now is pretty big difference, in both skill wise and attitude.

Can you elaborate on the difference in attitudes? I'm assuming by big players you refer to JYP, Puma, Thorzain and HuK. In what way have their attitudes, whatever that even means, changed and do you have any evidence that supports this? Otherwise this is just more nonsensical drivel from someone who just hates EG for whatever reason and is either too young or irrational to actually think what they are saying in their haste to spew more hate.
Yoduh
Profile Joined August 2010
United States216 Posts
August 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#831
Stephano will be just fine in EG. You can't ruin someones skill level by decreasing quality practice time when the guy doesn't practice in the first place
RaelSan
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium223 Posts
August 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#832
On August 22 2012 00:55 dadde wrote:
EG will win again when they ll use the Liquid Special Tactics: buy korean players to win tournaments/use White guys for sc2drama-casting-stream... things work like this so far. White guys sux in long term results vs koreans.


This is bad, and you should feel bad !

Jk jk but is that racist ?
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 17:52:06
August 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#833
Congrats to Stephano. If any foreign player deserves a big bump in pay based on tournament performance and results then Stephano certainly does. Stephano will get additional promotion too, as EG are extremely good at marketing their players.

As for EG - they have just picked up the best foreign player and probably the most popular player too. It's a big coup for them. I am sure Stephano will continue to grow and maintain his consistent streak. Also EG WILL send him to play in Code S. You know it is coming.

Millenium lose their best player but Stephano has done immense wonders already in raising their profile globally and so Millenium have already got a lot from signing up a young French schoolboy!

Stephano will continue to go from strength to strength and now they have Stephano, so will EG! Also it is somewhat silly for people to think that Stephano's results will be effected by those of his team-mates. Were his results under Millenium influenced by the result of Adelscott or Tarson etc? Of course not. It is absurd to even think so.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#834
On August 22 2012 02:36 NorwegianRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:30 Zane wrote:
I think I figured it out. EG is secretly owned by the E-Sports Federation. Every time a foreigner shows the potential to compete with Code S players, EG buys him. Then, using brainwashing methods borrowed from the Illuminati, they make sure that he doesn't remember how to win. This is how Koreans dominate, they simple remove the foreigner threats. Also, this is why EG players have a problem with Naniwa, it's because they didn't manage to sign him. So because they couldn't buy and brainwash him, they try to discredit him by talking shit. I hear coach Lee, who is running EG for the Federation, is pretty pissed with their failure and will probably force either Scoots or Garfield to commit sudoku if they fail again.


Wow, not only is everthing you just said pretty absurd, but the image of scoots hunched over sheet of paper clutching a pen about to "commit sedoku" is actually hilarious.

I know what you're thinking. "EG also bought successful Koreans, so this can't be right". You see, that's what they want you to think. This is one of the reasons they got Puma and JYP. But look at the big picture: what connects Puma and JYP? That's right, they were both TSL members. They're actually coach Lee's agents, they make sure EG is doing it's designed job and they report directly to him. The whole Puma scandal was faked so we wouldn't realize what's actually happening, but with a combination of well informed sources and the power of deduction I figured it out.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 21 2012 17:50 GMT
#835
Foreigners are struggling as is, do they really want to crush Stephano's spirit as well?
I think esports is pretty nice.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
August 21 2012 17:50 GMT
#836
On August 22 2012 02:23 Harbinger631 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
People talking about EG and results? O.o

The only people on Liquid getting results are Taeja and Hero. Only people in Complexity getting results are the Koreans, Only people in Millenium getting results (lets not count stephano for this sake) is ForGG. Only people getting results in MVP is... anyone? ROOT, if you consider that a team, got nothing. Mouz isn't doing very much either. Empire has their moments, but they're not winning anything either.

It's not like EG is the only team not doing spectacular. And even then, they actually are doing well. They're not winning, but they're certainly not doing the worst.

This isn't to say anything about Liquid or anything, I love most of their players in terms of personality, but they're certainly not very good (asides from the 2 I named. I don't consider Zenio to be very talented either).


Excellent post!


Sorry but this is not really an excellent post because Starcraft is not a team based game in the sense of like a MOBA or fps where you need actual teamwork. Now if there was an actual 2v2,3v3, or 4v4 league then it would be an actual team base but of course that would unlikely happen. Starcraft is an individual sport. Results are based on a single player and a single player alone. The only stacked team that actually produces results and even proved it recently is LG-IM
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 21 2012 17:50 GMT
#837
On August 22 2012 02:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:39 Doodsmack wrote:
Would the people hopping on the EG hate bandwagon please stop embarrassing yourselves and the community. You are contributing to the bad side/vocal minority of the community that everyone always laments. If you're dishing out general EG criticism and talking about the so-called curse in this thread, then make no mistake, you're a drama queen. You're inserting negativity into a thread where it's off topic. I know it might seem trendy to hate EG, and you might think it's fun to throw gas on a drama fire, but maybe be a little more mature with your posts. Actually why don't you just get the fuck out of the thread and go play SC2, the community would be better off.


Agreed. Most of us are waiting to see how EG does at MLG, but I guess the drama queens need something to do until then.

Like every MLG people expect a lot from them and each time they have mixed results. For a team that spends its time running around telling the world they consider themselves as the best, it's a little bit disappointing.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 21 2012 17:51 GMT
#838
Approximative translation of the Stephano's statement :

The choice between the different organizations who have aboarded me has not been easy. As I can't plan a long-term career as much as I want to continue my studies in a near future, I had the hard task to weigh the pros and the cons to determine what would better correspond to my projects.

Thereby, my collaboration with Millenium will end on 31st August.

It was an experience which allowed me to success as a player and I'd never reached these peaks without their support. I want to thank all the people who contributed to give me a chance, since Warcraft 3. It was a great adventure for 4 years which led me around the world and it's obvious that my victories are also theirs.

Millenium remains a great organization which will not stop growing, despite my departure.

Finally, I want to thank my fans for their support everyday, in good and bad times. I intend to continue to defend our colors, whatever happens and I hope you will continue following me, regardless my new team.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 21 2012 17:54 GMT
#839
On August 22 2012 02:12 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 01:56 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:48 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:02 Godwrath wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:00 seoul_kiM wrote:
Is it really unfathomable to you ignorant ingrates that someone who has worked so hard go take a better offer?


Huh ? Best offer is subjective. If his choice won't make him grow as a player, i don't see why people would keep rooting for him as a player.

That's funny because EG gives it's players a ton of resources to improve as players and takes them all over the world. The only possible thing that could be a negative playing wise of being on EG is having to do sponsor type work which might give you less practice time. But considering Stephano isnt the type to do 12 hour days I'd guess it wouldnt hurt him.


Look how much good that did Thorzain+Huk.

Oh EG... Silly team that tries to buy the successful players.

What is this post!?!!
Do people not think anymore. Thorzain hasn't even been in EG long, and his skill level certainly hasn't deteriorated since joining. Huk's slump didn't start till long after joining EG, so that point is pretty damn irrelevant too.

Why isn't anyone complaining about the Liquid curse because Zenio hasn't really performed recently? It's just stupid guys, Stephano will continue to perform great, regardless of his team.


Thorzain wins a tournament, joins EG, and then does nothing for Several months. He qualifies for TSL only to get demolished by Hasuobs(very underrated EU Protoss granted) 3-0 in the first round.

Huk is one of the only non-Koreans to win an mlg excluding Naniwa winning Dallas, signs with EG, and then falls off the face of the Earth. Literally, I haven't heard any notable achievement he has accomplished since joining EG.

Liquid is at least more consistent. Zenio was already a Code A Zerg player that turned hot AFTER joining Liquid. But he did just that: got hot, and was on a nice streak, before crashing back down. Thorzain and Huk were easily two of the top foreigners before joining EG. Now they're pretty much nothing.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 21 2012 17:54 GMT
#840
On August 22 2012 02:51 Boucot wrote:
Approximative translation of the Stephano's statement :

Show nested quote +
The choice between the different organizations who have aboarded me has not been easy. As I can't plan a long-term career as much as I want to continue my studies in a near future, I had the hard task to weigh the pros and the cons to determine what would better correspond to my projects.

Thereby, my collaboration with Millenium will end on 31st August.

It was an experience which allowed me to success as a player and I'd never reached these peaks without their support. I want to thank all the people who contributed to give me a chance, since Warcraft 3. It was a great adventure for 4 years which led me around the world and it's obvious that my victories are also theirs.

Millenium remains a great organization which will not stop growing, despite my departure.

Finally, I want to thank my fans for their support everyday, in good and bad times. I intend to continue to defend our colors, whatever happens and I hope you will continue following me, regardless my new team.


Thanks for the translation. Much appreciated.
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