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On August 22 2012 02:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:02 SilSol wrote:On August 22 2012 02:00 GreyMasta wrote:On August 22 2012 01:07 PourquoiPas wrote:
Didn't Stephano tweet racist comments to jews? This. Definitely Stephano will become a shitstorm magnet now that he's in EG. Culturally he's soooo far from american's standards and conventions. More than that, he just doesn't understands what "convention" means. The sad part is that in EG he WILL have to repress his weird mix of awkward/ bold/ ambiguous/ naive/ fresh/ provocative and that is the cement of his personality and his uniqueness. His "special" factor. He's too young to weight how a social and cultural environement that understands therefore and forgives your shortcomings and your weaknesses is important to professional growth. My predictions is that: He will join EG. He will be forced to not be himself. He will become unhappy. He will begin to suck at SC2. He will leave the scene. Why would you say something like that? That's just dumb imo. "If Stephano joins EG he will get bad at SC2 and unhappy?" Which player got unhappy joining EG? Which player got forced to be someone else when they joined EG? Which player LEFT the scene after joining EG? Axslav is in a new team isn't he? Strifecro/Louder/inka, any of these guys sound familiar? They all left the scene after joining EG. And of course (providing the hypothetical situation occurs) who WOULDN'T be unhappy if they couldn't be themselves?
So? They're low-calibre NA players, did you expect them to win a GSL? Hell, by your logic, the rest of the NA teams are cursed too because a bunch of their players just left the scene as well. Most of the remaining NA players aren't good.
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On August 22 2012 02:06 Moonling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
People talking about EG and results? O.o
The only people on Liquid getting results are Taeja and Hero. Only people in Complexity getting results are the Koreans, Only people in Millenium getting results (lets not count stephano for this sake) is ForGG. Only people getting results in MVP is... anyone? ROOT, if you consider that a team, got nothing. Mouz isn't doing very much either. Empire has their moments, but they're not winning anything either.
It's not like EG is the only team not doing spectacular. And even then, they actually are doing well. They're not winning, but they're certainly not doing the worst.
This isn't to say anything about Liquid or anything, I love most of their players in terms of personality, but they're certainly not very good (asides from the 2 I named. I don't consider Zenio to be very talented either). THIS guy, knows how to put things in perspective. This should just be at the front page of the thread so the same people, won't say the same thing over and over again.
I can one up you. Koreans own white boys.
Over-simplification? Of course but that's what it boils down to. Not like this is anything new.
When you have a ridiculous supply of resources you have to look at all aspects of practice schedule, mindset, coaches etc.
From what I've seen of every team there are certainly a lot of improvements to be had in all aspects of how they prepare.
Guess what's going to come next from Koreans own white boys?
You guessed it. KeSPA domination.
To the give right above my post. What would you call guys like Lz, Machine, Incontrol?
You think times have changed all that much from their BW days? Not so much.
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On August 22 2012 02:10 swtchrt wrote:
I don't understand why people think that EG is a good team for esports. They are good at advertising sponsors and can throw a lot of money at their players because of that, but advertising is not an esports skill. What we need is team that are able to put a lot of pressure on the players to make them practice as hard as they can.
With kespa players switching the korean scene will be even stronger than before, and if foreigners want to have a chance in major tournaments they have no other choice but to practice as hard as koreans.
EG players have a lot of money and a strong fanbase no matter how they perform in tournaments, of course they don't improve.
I think it's sad that our biggest "foreign hope" joins such team.
I didn't even have to read your whole post because you answered yourself in the next sentence.
What the fuck is wrong with people these days. EG pumps so much life into the scene and all it seems people want to do is shit on them. Thank god the posters in here are just a vocal minority.
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On August 21 2012 21:07 Miaaw wrote:
I doubt it, EG have a strict code of conduct which would probably conflict with Stephano's current lifestyle (or what we know of it anyway). Source is from Incontrol's stream.
LOL. EG is the team with Idra and Incontrol... Stuff will happen but everyone at EG likes Stephano and Stephano likes EG, end of story.
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On August 22 2012 02:12 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 22 2012 02:02 SilSol wrote:On August 22 2012 02:00 GreyMasta wrote:On August 22 2012 01:07 PourquoiPas wrote:
Didn't Stephano tweet racist comments to jews? This. Definitely Stephano will become a shitstorm magnet now that he's in EG. Culturally he's soooo far from american's standards and conventions. More than that, he just doesn't understands what "convention" means. The sad part is that in EG he WILL have to repress his weird mix of awkward/ bold/ ambiguous/ naive/ fresh/ provocative and that is the cement of his personality and his uniqueness. His "special" factor. He's too young to weight how a social and cultural environement that understands therefore and forgives your shortcomings and your weaknesses is important to professional growth. My predictions is that: He will join EG. He will be forced to not be himself. He will become unhappy. He will begin to suck at SC2. He will leave the scene. Why would you say something like that? That's just dumb imo. "If Stephano joins EG he will get bad at SC2 and unhappy?" Which player got unhappy joining EG? Which player got forced to be someone else when they joined EG? Which player LEFT the scene after joining EG? Axslav is in a new team isn't he? Strifecro/Louder/inka, any of these guys sound familiar? They all left the scene after joining EG. And of course (providing the hypothetical situation occurs) who WOULDN'T be unhappy if they couldn't be themselves? So? They're low-calibre NA players, did you expect them to win a GSL? Hell, by your logic, the rest of the NA teams are cursed too because a bunch of their players just left the scene as well. Most of the remaining NA players aren't good.
Wait what? " a bunch of their players left the scene aswell" which players inform me please.
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On August 22 2012 02:12 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 22 2012 02:02 SilSol wrote:On August 22 2012 02:00 GreyMasta wrote:On August 22 2012 01:07 PourquoiPas wrote:
Didn't Stephano tweet racist comments to jews? This. Definitely Stephano will become a shitstorm magnet now that he's in EG. Culturally he's soooo far from american's standards and conventions. More than that, he just doesn't understands what "convention" means. The sad part is that in EG he WILL have to repress his weird mix of awkward/ bold/ ambiguous/ naive/ fresh/ provocative and that is the cement of his personality and his uniqueness. His "special" factor. He's too young to weight how a social and cultural environement that understands therefore and forgives your shortcomings and your weaknesses is important to professional growth. My predictions is that: He will join EG. He will be forced to not be himself. He will become unhappy. He will begin to suck at SC2. He will leave the scene. Why would you say something like that? That's just dumb imo. "If Stephano joins EG he will get bad at SC2 and unhappy?" Which player got unhappy joining EG? Which player got forced to be someone else when they joined EG? Which player LEFT the scene after joining EG? Axslav is in a new team isn't he? Strifecro/Louder/inka, any of these guys sound familiar? They all left the scene after joining EG. And of course (providing the hypothetical situation occurs) who WOULDN'T be unhappy if they couldn't be themselves? So? They're low-calibre NA players, did you expect them to win a GSL? Hell, by your logic, the rest of the NA teams are cursed too because a bunch of their players just left the scene as well. Most of the remaining NA players aren't good.
My logic? He asked "who left the scene after joining EG?" and I answered with the players who have left the scene since joining EG. I fail to see a flaw in my logic, as I never once called them fantastic players or said anything about their skill at all.
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When you play a Game of Drones you win or you join EG die.
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I hope this is true. I love having EG get even more guys to cheer for.
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this thread makes me embarrassed to be part of the sc2 community
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On August 22 2012 02:06 Moonling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
People talking about EG and results? O.o
The only people on Liquid getting results are Taeja and Hero. Only people in Complexity getting results are the Koreans, Only people in Millenium getting results (lets not count stephano for this sake) is ForGG. Only people getting results in MVP is... anyone? ROOT, if you consider that a team, got nothing. Mouz isn't doing very much either. Empire has their moments, but they're not winning anything either.
It's not like EG is the only team not doing spectacular. And even then, they actually are doing well. They're not winning, but they're certainly not doing the worst.
This isn't to say anything about Liquid or anything, I love most of their players in terms of personality, but they're certainly not very good (asides from the 2 I named. I don't consider Zenio to be very talented either). THIS guy, knows how to put things in perspective. This should just be at the front page of the thread so the same people, won't say the same thing over and over again.
This is so right. I disagree slightly though, I think it should be a nice bolded mod note, so at least the number of people spouting the same stuff over and over would be lower than it is at the moment.
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On August 22 2012 02:09 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:06 Moonling wrote:On August 22 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
People talking about EG and results? O.o
The only people on Liquid getting results are Taeja and Hero. Only people in Complexity getting results are the Koreans, Only people in Millenium getting results (lets not count stephano for this sake) is ForGG. Only people getting results in MVP is... anyone? ROOT, if you consider that a team, got nothing. Mouz isn't doing very much either. Empire has their moments, but they're not winning anything either.
It's not like EG is the only team not doing spectacular. And even then, they actually are doing well. They're not winning, but they're certainly not doing the worst.
This isn't to say anything about Liquid or anything, I love most of their players in terms of personality, but they're certainly not very good (asides from the 2 I named. I don't consider Zenio to be very talented either). THIS guy, knows how to put things in perspective. This should just be at the front page of the thread so the same people, won't say the same thing over and over again. couldnt agree more also you should hear demuslim talk about it on his stream right now, it almost sounds like he knows that its gonna happen
People hate on EG because they have soo much money and they are not succesful with it.
The problem though is EG may does not have that much success in SC but in other games they are really good, so most of the haters should just accept that they are extremly good with getting sponsores and they are doing a lot to make e-sports bigger flying their athletes around the world.
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Good to hear, I like Stephano and EG does good work for their players. Now let the EG hate train continue. After all, it wouldn't be the NA scene if we didn't hate on one of our more successful teams. It is what we do. Cheering is for lesser fans.
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People are afraid EG will put a muzzle on Stephano? Stephano (aside from the Jew tweet) has never said anything nearly as inflammatory as IdrA does on his stream.
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On August 22 2012 02:16 stratmatt wrote:
this thread makes me embarrassed to be part of the sc2 community
^^^^^^^
seriously people grow up
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On August 22 2012 02:00 GreyMasta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 01:07 PourquoiPas wrote:
Didn't Stephano tweet racist comments to jews? This. Definitely Stephano will become a shitstorm magnet now that he's in EG. Culturally he's soooo far from american's standards and conventions. Further than that: He just doesn't understands what a "convention" is. The sad part is that in EG he WILL have to repress his weird mix of awkward/ bold/ ambiguous/ naive/ fresh/ provocative and that is the cement of his personality and his unique playstyle and talent. His "X" factor. He's too young to weight how a social and cultural environement that understands and therefore forgives your shortcomings and your weaknesses is important to professional growth and happiness. My prediction is: He will join EG. He will be forced to not be himself. He will become unhappy. He will begin to suck at SC2. He will leave the scene.
Interesting, I've a quite a different prediction :
He will join EG.
He will look at his salary.
He will think for 2 seconds "Hey, so now I don't even have to bother practicing this game anymore".
He will begin to suck at SC2.
He will leech EG's money as long as possible then leave the scene.
EG Curse is bullshit, but lazyness while leeching highest salary in e-sport seems definitely possible.
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On August 22 2012 02:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:12 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:On August 22 2012 02:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 22 2012 02:02 SilSol wrote:On August 22 2012 02:00 GreyMasta wrote:On August 22 2012 01:07 PourquoiPas wrote:
Didn't Stephano tweet racist comments to jews? This. Definitely Stephano will become a shitstorm magnet now that he's in EG. Culturally he's soooo far from american's standards and conventions. More than that, he just doesn't understands what "convention" means. The sad part is that in EG he WILL have to repress his weird mix of awkward/ bold/ ambiguous/ naive/ fresh/ provocative and that is the cement of his personality and his uniqueness. His "special" factor. He's too young to weight how a social and cultural environement that understands therefore and forgives your shortcomings and your weaknesses is important to professional growth. My predictions is that: He will join EG. He will be forced to not be himself. He will become unhappy. He will begin to suck at SC2. He will leave the scene. Why would you say something like that? That's just dumb imo. "If Stephano joins EG he will get bad at SC2 and unhappy?" Which player got unhappy joining EG? Which player got forced to be someone else when they joined EG? Which player LEFT the scene after joining EG? Axslav is in a new team isn't he? Strifecro/Louder/inka, any of these guys sound familiar? They all left the scene after joining EG. And of course (providing the hypothetical situation occurs) who WOULDN'T be unhappy if they couldn't be themselves? So? They're low-calibre NA players, did you expect them to win a GSL? Hell, by your logic, the rest of the NA teams are cursed too because a bunch of their players just left the scene as well. Most of the remaining NA players aren't good. My logic? He asked "who left the scene after joining EG?" and I answered with the players who have left the scene since joining EG. I fail to see a flaw in my logic, as I never once called them fantastic players or said anything about their skill at all.
Yeah, but that's thing. Everyone tries to point them out as "evidence" of EG sucking. Really, it's just NA players sucking. I doubt those playes would do any better on any other team. If teams like Quantic or compLexity got more attention, people would be talking about their curses and how their players just leave the scene or stay in the scene but get stuck in the bottom.
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I think we all knew this would happen sooner or later.
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Lol we all joked about it for millenniums now and now it becomes  reality
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On August 22 2012 02:17 HotGlueGun wrote:
People are afraid EG will put a muzzle on Stephano? Stephano (aside from the Jew tweet) has never said anything nearly as inflammatory as IdrA does on his stream.
I think people are referring to his tendency to party hard and do his interviews drunk. In EG's mind: He can talk as much shit as possible as long as he doesn't get arrested for it.
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On August 22 2012 02:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 02:16 stratmatt wrote:
this thread makes me embarrassed to be part of the sc2 community ^^^^^^^ seriously people grow up
EG is the team that Starcraft 2 needs right now, but not the one it deserves.
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