• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:50
CEST 19:50
KST 02:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs) BW General Discussion Very long shot - StarCraft x A7X video Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development streaming software
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2517 users

Heart of the Swarm TvP Battle Report! - Page 50

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 48 49 50 51 52 80 Next
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
August 14 2012 10:44 GMT
#981
On August 14 2012 19:40 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:41 Plexa wrote:
There are no words to describe how underwhelmed I am.


Care to elaborate? That post isn't really helpful to anyone.


Maybe on the quality of the game? The P player let the T mass up a nice mech army, built entirely the wrong army comp to deal with it, and then let the T slowly kill him
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 14 2012 10:44 GMT
#982
On August 14 2012 19:22 BronzeKnee wrote:
So without the Thor Terran Mech lacks anti-air, and won't Phoenix/Void/Tempest just run over Vikings and Mech, forcing Terran back to Marines and Bio?

Am I missing something?

Ye you are, the thor isnt gone.
no dude, the question
Aulisemia
Profile Joined August 2011
United States123 Posts
August 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#983
Did the map remind anyone else of Steppes of War?
The ponciest ponce that ever ponced past a poncing palour.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#984
HoTS will probably make me give up on the franchise as a whole. Instead of fixing the problems with WoL - Horrible unit pathing, boring units (collossus, marauders, roaches), warp gates - they are making everything even worse by adding even more a-move units (Warhounds, Battle hellions, Tempest). The only race that seems to be getting some cool stuff is Zerg.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3491 Posts
August 14 2012 10:47 GMT
#985
Tempest, Warhound, Battlehellion; are all silly looking, boring units.
The ones that are interesting all look overpowered and will be nerfed to the ground making it so we only make those stale units, which are easy to balance, since they have no abilities..

Really dissapointed by HotS.
The worst ability yet is burrow charge though. It looks silly, it is insanely OP, no matter how you balance it, ultra might be nerfed to the ground and the only reason you make them is for the burrow charge suicide.
It looks like DotA and if we're lucky they will remove the ability before the game release and use it for the starcraft dota game instead, as it seems like they made it for the mod, but just figured; THAT WOULD BE COOL..
With Viper/Infestor/Spawner unit/Broodlord, Zerg will be the cost efficient race, which focuses on the army instead of economy and we will see a huge shift in metagame as Protoss and Terran become the macro races.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 14 2012 10:47 GMT
#986
not convinced at all. the warhound and hellion morph are as bland as expected.

the mothership core is broken by design.
the tempest basicly a super range guardian with an aa attack? dunno what a unit like that has to do on P but whatevs.

mines well... i want my vultures so i guess im too biased about that anyways.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
August 14 2012 10:48 GMT
#987
On August 14 2012 19:38 Aenur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 19:23 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 19:14 Aenur wrote:
I really don't like the warhound. Besides it's awful look it only fits the role of an anti mechanical unit, so it is very unlikely to use it against zerg (do the rockets even launch against them?). It's a very bad design to have units completely useless in specific matchups.


I give you the carrier in PvT and the Battlecruiser in anything but TvT.

Admittedly the warhound won't be as useful against zerg, but it looks to add a little bit of a meatshield to the tanks which is still the main bulk of the mech army damage. I think the other main thing is this is still in alpha and look how different the alpha for vanilla SC2 looked compared to how the meta game is now. There's no way in hell a protoss wouldn't add collosus and storm against a bunched up mech army like that. No game is ever going to look like that outside of say silver+


Yes, we rarly see Carriers and Battlecruisers used. Their problem is that they are just not good enough to use, but at least they can use their abilities in any matchup. The warhound just cannot - thats my point.
I also think the Battlehellion is the meatshield to go in tvz - Warhound would't be cost efficient at all.


I guess, but since it's only the Alpha they can easily change the design/usage of the warhound and they probably will. Games always look like this in alpha and it's usually this reason why games are never shown in Alpha.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 14 2012 10:51 GMT
#988
new rocks.........
yo
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 10:58:43
August 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#989
On August 14 2012 17:59 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 17:03 Garmer wrote:
instead of those stupid new rocks, they should put high cliff advantage


Or you could go play Brood War.


i already do, anyway you can't deny that this game need more deep, instead of just direct combat situation, high cliff advantage is a must imho, for a deeper gameplay.


On August 14 2012 18:56 Bjoernzor wrote:
Oh wow, i can build marauders from the factory...

so true lol...

Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#990
Every time new material about HotS is released, I am reinforced in my opinion not to buy it, and this one continues the trend. Well, at least the Terran did build Tanks, so that's nice - clearly, it wasn't Dustin Browder.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
August 14 2012 10:58 GMT
#991
not sure why people are giving HoTS so much hate, you can bearly guage the quality of the game from these pretty poor battle reports... who builds a robo to then only build one obs when the terran is constantally dropping widdow mines?
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 14 2012 11:00 GMT
#992
Wow, we are facing a serious lack of creativity in the unit design department regarding protoss and terran.
The warhound keeps me speechless... a marauder that comes from the factory is the most stupid idea ever since the community doesn't seem to really like the marauder anyway...
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 14 2012 11:05 GMT
#993
On August 14 2012 20:00 Diks wrote:
Wow, we are facing a serious lack of creativity in the unit design department regarding protoss and terran.
The warhound keeps me speechless... a marauder that comes from the factory is the most stupid idea ever since the community doesn't seem to really like the marauder anyway...


Thats what you get when you take out 'passion' from equation and put 'money' instead.
Its grack
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
August 14 2012 11:07 GMT
#994
Not a very good game indeed.

(To me, new mech look like a boring MMTank without mobility... We'll see.)
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 11:13:00
August 14 2012 11:10 GMT
#995
I recommend people to watch WoL battle report so people could get an idea of what battle report is.:D
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 11:15:01
August 14 2012 11:13 GMT
#996
All the new units except the some zerg ones look so boring, I am not really excited for HotS multiplayer

Also does anyone really like the warhound skin better than the goliath ? it looks like scraps of metal bound togheter
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 14 2012 11:15 GMT
#997
Why can that mine attach to air units? Can you see the widow mines or is it cloacked?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
August 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#998
the map looks kinda dark?
Total Annihilation Zero
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
August 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#999
On August 14 2012 11:09 mordk wrote:
Oh my god warhounds are the silliest looking units ever to appear on an RTS


I have to agree, it's just marauder 2.0 and they look STRAIGHT out of Supreme Commander (this is *NOT* a good thing!)


On August 14 2012 11:12 Sitinte wrote:
Is this the first time David Kim lost a Battle Report?


I believe so, yes.

On August 14 2012 11:13 pOnarreT wrote:
I wish entombed is not casted automatically on all mineral patches. maybe a click for each patch so that at least it would require some form of micro...


This is such a goddamned good idea. Make it so that the little shields are 10% stronger and last 10% longer - however you need to also click per patch of minerals. High skill players are rewarded, while low skilled players aren't completely punished as it lasts a bit longer at least.
(Note: I play Protoss and I suck - but I watch a LOT of pro games and I love seeing skill being used at the high levels)



On August 14 2012 11:26 Warpish wrote:
-Mines that can also target air units. Seriously??

-I'm sorry, but the warhound is terribly ugly and poorly animated.

-Blizzard wants to encourage Mech versus Protoss and adds an unit like the ugly Tempest with that insane range. How many counters to tanks does this game needs?


3x agreed.
I like that the tempest is something new and different but I'm not sure they are taking it in a clever direction.
I get the feeling that Dustin Browder is still doing what he said about SC2 originally "we just come up with cool units and then tweak the figures to balance them" there doesn't feel like an overall big design plan. (That is kind of a quote, not precise, I'm sure people on this website would know the exact, scary quote)

I want to make it clear I was NEVER a Brood War guy and yet following SC2 for 2 years, reading this site and watching the Battle Reports for HoTS, I've got to say you form an appreciation for BW's simplicity yet wildly varied playstyles.
I will say, to be honest I think WoL is damn close to well balanced at the moment though, it's going to be a shame to fuck that up for HoTS.
(God some of those fucking units look like shit someones kid thought up, especially the Terran stuff - and I don't say that to be a cynical internet hater - they really do just seem, for lack of a better word 'dumb')


On August 14 2012 11:28 rauk wrote:
i like how there's zero micro potential for any of the new units


Sigh, I know - I'm about 3 days behind on GSL at the moment - but the most recent match I saw, Squirtle did some goddamn slick play with a warp prism and some immortals, just stuff you watch with awe and respect. I'm not feeling that from HoTS. I hope I'm wrong but it just doesn't look right :/
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
August 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#1000
On August 14 2012 20:10 Wildmoon wrote:
I recommend people to watch WoL battle report so people could get an idea of what battle report is.:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_ja-vHFWY


This needs to be in the OP so people can actually watch it.
"Who has the best durability feat in all of comic book superheroes?" "Aquaman surviving pop culture."
Prev 1 48 49 50 51 52 80 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 422
mouzHeroMarine 342
elazer 195
UpATreeSC 117
ProTech82
BRAT_OK 80
ForJumy 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15449
Rush 298
BeSt 278
ggaemo 251
firebathero 154
Dewaltoss 120
Shine 64
Mind 52
sorry 33
Rock 26
[ Show more ]
IntoTheRainbow 25
Sacsri 18
Sexy 13
Dota 2
qojqva1670
Counter-Strike
fl0m1677
byalli520
edward55
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 107
MindelVK13
Other Games
Grubby3065
Liquid`RaSZi1141
Beastyqt581
Dendi462
ceh9352
Hui .213
C9.Mang0101
ArmadaUGS101
KnowMe97
Mew2King79
QueenE62
Trikslyr60
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL260
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 24
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota254
League of Legends
• Nemesis3958
• Jankos2495
• TFBlade1154
Other Games
• imaqtpie900
• Shiphtur125
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 11m
Cham vs Percival
ShoWTimE vs Lambo
Krystianer vs sebesdes
Cure vs Babymarine
SKillous vs Arrogfire
Gerald vs MindelVK
goblin vs TBD
Jumy vs HonMonO
Replay Cast
6h 11m
Maestros of the Game
19h 11m
Big Brain Bouts
22h 11m
Shino vs Scarlett
Bly vs DnS
Serral vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d 6h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
1d 17h
IPSL
1d 22h
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.