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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1100 Posts
August 14 2012 10:44 GMT
#981
On August 14 2012 19:40 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:41 Plexa wrote:
There are no words to describe how underwhelmed I am.


Care to elaborate? That post isn't really helpful to anyone.


Maybe on the quality of the game? The P player let the T mass up a nice mech army, built entirely the wrong army comp to deal with it, and then let the T slowly kill him
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 14 2012 10:44 GMT
#982
On August 14 2012 19:22 BronzeKnee wrote:
So without the Thor Terran Mech lacks anti-air, and won't Phoenix/Void/Tempest just run over Vikings and Mech, forcing Terran back to Marines and Bio?

Am I missing something?

Ye you are, the thor isnt gone.
no dude, the question
Aulisemia
Profile Joined August 2011
United States123 Posts
August 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#983
Did the map remind anyone else of Steppes of War?
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labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#984
HoTS will probably make me give up on the franchise as a whole. Instead of fixing the problems with WoL - Horrible unit pathing, boring units (collossus, marauders, roaches), warp gates - they are making everything even worse by adding even more a-move units (Warhounds, Battle hellions, Tempest). The only race that seems to be getting some cool stuff is Zerg.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
August 14 2012 10:47 GMT
#985
Tempest, Warhound, Battlehellion; are all silly looking, boring units.
The ones that are interesting all look overpowered and will be nerfed to the ground making it so we only make those stale units, which are easy to balance, since they have no abilities..

Really dissapointed by HotS.
The worst ability yet is burrow charge though. It looks silly, it is insanely OP, no matter how you balance it, ultra might be nerfed to the ground and the only reason you make them is for the burrow charge suicide.
It looks like DotA and if we're lucky they will remove the ability before the game release and use it for the starcraft dota game instead, as it seems like they made it for the mod, but just figured; THAT WOULD BE COOL..
With Viper/Infestor/Spawner unit/Broodlord, Zerg will be the cost efficient race, which focuses on the army instead of economy and we will see a huge shift in metagame as Protoss and Terran become the macro races.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 14 2012 10:47 GMT
#986
not convinced at all. the warhound and hellion morph are as bland as expected.

the mothership core is broken by design.
the tempest basicly a super range guardian with an aa attack? dunno what a unit like that has to do on P but whatevs.

mines well... i want my vultures so i guess im too biased about that anyways.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
August 14 2012 10:48 GMT
#987
On August 14 2012 19:38 Aenur wrote:
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On August 14 2012 19:23 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 19:14 Aenur wrote:
I really don't like the warhound. Besides it's awful look it only fits the role of an anti mechanical unit, so it is very unlikely to use it against zerg (do the rockets even launch against them?). It's a very bad design to have units completely useless in specific matchups.


I give you the carrier in PvT and the Battlecruiser in anything but TvT.

Admittedly the warhound won't be as useful against zerg, but it looks to add a little bit of a meatshield to the tanks which is still the main bulk of the mech army damage. I think the other main thing is this is still in alpha and look how different the alpha for vanilla SC2 looked compared to how the meta game is now. There's no way in hell a protoss wouldn't add collosus and storm against a bunched up mech army like that. No game is ever going to look like that outside of say silver+


Yes, we rarly see Carriers and Battlecruisers used. Their problem is that they are just not good enough to use, but at least they can use their abilities in any matchup. The warhound just cannot - thats my point.
I also think the Battlehellion is the meatshield to go in tvz - Warhound would't be cost efficient at all.


I guess, but since it's only the Alpha they can easily change the design/usage of the warhound and they probably will. Games always look like this in alpha and it's usually this reason why games are never shown in Alpha.
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 14 2012 10:51 GMT
#988
new rocks.........
yo
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 10:58:43
August 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#989
On August 14 2012 17:59 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 17:03 Garmer wrote:
instead of those stupid new rocks, they should put high cliff advantage


Or you could go play Brood War.


i already do, anyway you can't deny that this game need more deep, instead of just direct combat situation, high cliff advantage is a must imho, for a deeper gameplay.


On August 14 2012 18:56 Bjoernzor wrote:
Oh wow, i can build marauders from the factory...

so true lol...

Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#990
Every time new material about HotS is released, I am reinforced in my opinion not to buy it, and this one continues the trend. Well, at least the Terran did build Tanks, so that's nice - clearly, it wasn't Dustin Browder.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1100 Posts
August 14 2012 10:58 GMT
#991
not sure why people are giving HoTS so much hate, you can bearly guage the quality of the game from these pretty poor battle reports... who builds a robo to then only build one obs when the terran is constantally dropping widdow mines?
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 14 2012 11:00 GMT
#992
Wow, we are facing a serious lack of creativity in the unit design department regarding protoss and terran.
The warhound keeps me speechless... a marauder that comes from the factory is the most stupid idea ever since the community doesn't seem to really like the marauder anyway...
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 14 2012 11:05 GMT
#993
On August 14 2012 20:00 Diks wrote:
Wow, we are facing a serious lack of creativity in the unit design department regarding protoss and terran.
The warhound keeps me speechless... a marauder that comes from the factory is the most stupid idea ever since the community doesn't seem to really like the marauder anyway...


Thats what you get when you take out 'passion' from equation and put 'money' instead.
Its grack
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
August 14 2012 11:07 GMT
#994
Not a very good game indeed.

(To me, new mech look like a boring MMTank without mobility... We'll see.)
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 11:13:00
August 14 2012 11:10 GMT
#995
I recommend people to watch WoL battle report so people could get an idea of what battle report is.:D
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 11:15:01
August 14 2012 11:13 GMT
#996
All the new units except the some zerg ones look so boring, I am not really excited for HotS multiplayer

Also does anyone really like the warhound skin better than the goliath ? it looks like scraps of metal bound togheter
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 14 2012 11:15 GMT
#997
Why can that mine attach to air units? Can you see the widow mines or is it cloacked?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
August 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#998
the map looks kinda dark?
Total Annihilation Zero
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
August 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#999
On August 14 2012 11:09 mordk wrote:
Oh my god warhounds are the silliest looking units ever to appear on an RTS


I have to agree, it's just marauder 2.0 and they look STRAIGHT out of Supreme Commander (this is *NOT* a good thing!)


On August 14 2012 11:12 Sitinte wrote:
Is this the first time David Kim lost a Battle Report?


I believe so, yes.

On August 14 2012 11:13 pOnarreT wrote:
I wish entombed is not casted automatically on all mineral patches. maybe a click for each patch so that at least it would require some form of micro...


This is such a goddamned good idea. Make it so that the little shields are 10% stronger and last 10% longer - however you need to also click per patch of minerals. High skill players are rewarded, while low skilled players aren't completely punished as it lasts a bit longer at least.
(Note: I play Protoss and I suck - but I watch a LOT of pro games and I love seeing skill being used at the high levels)



On August 14 2012 11:26 Warpish wrote:
-Mines that can also target air units. Seriously??

-I'm sorry, but the warhound is terribly ugly and poorly animated.

-Blizzard wants to encourage Mech versus Protoss and adds an unit like the ugly Tempest with that insane range. How many counters to tanks does this game needs?


3x agreed.
I like that the tempest is something new and different but I'm not sure they are taking it in a clever direction.
I get the feeling that Dustin Browder is still doing what he said about SC2 originally "we just come up with cool units and then tweak the figures to balance them" there doesn't feel like an overall big design plan. (That is kind of a quote, not precise, I'm sure people on this website would know the exact, scary quote)

I want to make it clear I was NEVER a Brood War guy and yet following SC2 for 2 years, reading this site and watching the Battle Reports for HoTS, I've got to say you form an appreciation for BW's simplicity yet wildly varied playstyles.
I will say, to be honest I think WoL is damn close to well balanced at the moment though, it's going to be a shame to fuck that up for HoTS.
(God some of those fucking units look like shit someones kid thought up, especially the Terran stuff - and I don't say that to be a cynical internet hater - they really do just seem, for lack of a better word 'dumb')


On August 14 2012 11:28 rauk wrote:
i like how there's zero micro potential for any of the new units


Sigh, I know - I'm about 3 days behind on GSL at the moment - but the most recent match I saw, Squirtle did some goddamn slick play with a warp prism and some immortals, just stuff you watch with awe and respect. I'm not feeling that from HoTS. I hope I'm wrong but it just doesn't look right :/
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
August 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#1000
On August 14 2012 20:10 Wildmoon wrote:
I recommend people to watch WoL battle report so people could get an idea of what battle report is.:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_ja-vHFWY


This needs to be in the OP so people can actually watch it.
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