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kvmetternich
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:06:35
August 02 2012 20:05 GMT
#1021
On August 03 2012 03:35 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i really like the new looks a lot. the game runs faster and looks better for me since patch. regardimg bugs: working in gui development myself i can tell you: it is impossible and unpayable to test all possible hardware and software configurations out there.
There are tons of different graphics cards, full of diverse hardware and driver bugs, different os (win7 32/64 bit, at various patch levels, vista 32/64 bit at various patch levels, mac in different versions), different processors etc.

A software company can only test the most common configurations, everything else in unpayable. So stop whining if it does not run on a 4 year old laptop with a vendor tailored 'mobile' graphics card and an outdated graphics driver . Better help blizz by providing exact bug reports.


Even players (including myself) with high end pc (gtx680, I7 etc.) have a lot of lag/stutter issues when the day before with the previous build of the game all was ok.


pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:13:22
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#1022
On August 03 2012 01:40 YaShock wrote:
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On August 03 2012 01:31 Zephirdd wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:24 KaiserJohan wrote:
I have a really really annoying stuttering freeze every now and then when I play. Dosn't occur too often, maybe once per minute nad last for a seconds, but its enough to loose all games. Thanks blizzard.


Set alternateLowTexture to 0 on variables.txt, fixed it for me.

Also
[image loading]

You can see your total games.
AWESOME!

(for those who don't know, if you go to "Ladders", you can see how many wins you have)


Really? It's that important? Never knew.


Total games maby no , but games in this seson yes. Now non master players can see win ratio they got. its good thing for me

On August 03 2012 01:54 dynwar7 wrote:
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On August 03 2012 00:47 Existor wrote:
On August 03 2012 00:18 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys - I just want to ask, with this new 1.5.0 patch, is it true that the graphics are better? People here say that the new "low" graphics is actually as good as the old "medium". Can someone confirm this.

Low graphic uses now special low-textures - statuc pictures with sharper square of every texture. Those low-textures have smaller size.


Sorry I dont really get that

So basically, the new "low" is better than the old "low"? And thatthe new "low" is equivalent to the old "medium"?


Yes NEW Low got better performacne then old low , and its looks better.
Thing that makes fps drops etc is STREAMING SYSTEM ( you can see that if you play , on right side of screen "streaming data" or something like that)
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TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:14:23
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#1023
Can't we just start a petition to get the old graphics and menu back?
The new one sucks so hard. We had it for a long long time and now they change it

edit: I mean MENU GRAPHICS
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1024
On August 03 2012 05:11 TurboMaN wrote:
Can't we just start a petition to get the old graphics and menu back?
The new one sucks so hard. We had it for a long long time and now they change it


You can set old graphics , just find thread here in TL
New interface is better , and you can navigate very fast in this ( f1 f2 etc )

Other thing is.. you play the game ? or you sit all the time in lobby?. If you dont like new interface , just go in game faster , simple as that.
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TheBatman
Profile Joined January 2011
United States209 Posts
August 02 2012 20:36 GMT
#1025
On August 03 2012 05:05 kvmetternich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 03:35 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
i really like the new looks a lot. the game runs faster and looks better for me since patch. regardimg bugs: working in gui development myself i can tell you: it is impossible and unpayable to test all possible hardware and software configurations out there.
There are tons of different graphics cards, full of diverse hardware and driver bugs, different os (win7 32/64 bit, at various patch levels, vista 32/64 bit at various patch levels, mac in different versions), different processors etc.

A software company can only test the most common configurations, everything else in unpayable. So stop whining if it does not run on a 4 year old laptop with a vendor tailored 'mobile' graphics card and an outdated graphics driver . Better help blizz by providing exact bug reports.


Even players (including myself) with high end pc (gtx680, I7 etc.) have a lot of lag/stutter issues when the day before with the previous build of the game all was ok.




this problem is seriously annoying, don't know what's wrong
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
August 02 2012 20:39 GMT
#1026
i don't like the new layout, after playing 2 days now with the patch, i miss the old one
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 02 2012 20:45 GMT
#1027
--- Nuked ---
BaDMannerS
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 21:01:24
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#1028
I have a theory!

Blizzard are not full of retarded employees. It is just a cunning plan. They will release HotS that will have almost nothing new, compared to WoL patch 1.4. They made this 1.5.0 crap to fool us and promise to us that HotS will be better. No way it can't be better, if they make it just like the older patch. And... boom, you have brand new expansion. :D

Blizz, keep releasing not-bug-tested sh*tload, we love it.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 02 2012 21:03 GMT
#1029
On August 03 2012 05:45 Scrubwave wrote:
1. Don't know what's the point of mostly cosmetic patch before HoTS.

The new cosmetic patch is mostly an accompaniment to the custom game improvements. And they did make custom game improvements.
Who dat ninja?
IronOutlaw
Profile Joined November 2011
United States48 Posts
August 02 2012 21:05 GMT
#1030
Downloading the patch now. Hopefully I'm not as disappointed as some of the people on here are.
"People won't care what you know until they know that you care."
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
August 02 2012 21:09 GMT
#1031
some people are always disappointed, so it's not a huge deal.

The interface was unfamiliar at first for obvious reasons, but once you get used to the hotkeys it really is rather convenient. The major point for 1.5 is for custom game improvements. I think it is a large step back into the right direction. Starcraft II has emphasized too hard on E-sports and ladder and kind of forget that for the majority of players out there, they just want a game of 3v3 without records, or a 4v4 versus computer, or a DoTA game.

While I mainly play ladder game, a custom game here and there is really great.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 02 2012 21:15 GMT
#1032
People made this patch to be some sort of doomsday for sc2. It is buggy yes, but the interface is better then the old on considering the old interface was absolute shit. I'll give it a B. Not good but not bad either.
"let your freak flag fly"
BaDMannerS
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria57 Posts
August 02 2012 21:27 GMT
#1033
On August 03 2012 06:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
People made this patch to be some sort of doomsday for sc2. It is buggy yes, but the interface is better then the old on considering the old interface was absolute shit. I'll give it a B. Not good but not bad either.

Does the fact that you can not understand a crap about someone's ladder standing on the summary, rate it a B?
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 02 2012 21:37 GMT
#1034
On August 03 2012 05:45 Scrubwave wrote:
1. Don't know what's the point of mostly cosmetic patch before HoTS.


Actually I thought the whole point is that it's before HotS.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
August 02 2012 22:18 GMT
#1035
I don't know if it's just my computer is being stupid but the new patch is running at a lower FPS and has more lag than before.
Yoduh
Profile Joined August 2010
United States216 Posts
August 02 2012 22:45 GMT
#1036
runs fine on my machine. gtx 570, i7. and I know there's a lot of bugs but it was a pretty MAJOR patch with a shit ton of changes. It would have been an miraculous programming achievement if this patch DIDN'T come with bugs. If you think they didn't do any QA then you're probably a little naive. 1.5 was in beta and free to test by everyone for a long time. I can tell you as a software QA tester myself you can never anticipate what will break once you release new software into the wild, even if it looks 100% fine on the dev/tester side. The real question to me isn't how they could've released a patch like this with this many bugs, but how long they will take to fix them. That to me is a better benchmark to judge blizzard by. Then again, knowing how little the vast majority of players and forum goers understand software development at this scale and how prone most are to raging uncontrollably, it will probably be 'too long' no matter how long it takes them, sadly.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 02 2012 23:01 GMT
#1037
what does streaming file exactly do? i see it in loading screen. which information is big enough(7mb)in a 1v1 match? where do i stream these files to?
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TheAppetizer
Profile Joined February 2011
United States146 Posts
August 03 2012 02:04 GMT
#1038
Has anyone else noticed that larvae from a killed hatchery will prevent you from building a new hatchery at the same location until it moves out of the way? This was probably the most frustrating thing I encountered on ladder today. They really need to fix this bug ASAP.
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
August 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#1039
i hate how the graphics settings wont stay saved... have to revert every time i start the game from ultra to medium
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cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 03:03:03
August 03 2012 03:02 GMT
#1040
On August 03 2012 06:09 david0925 wrote:
some people are always disappointed, so it's not a huge deal.

The interface was unfamiliar at first for obvious reasons, but once you get used to the hotkeys it really is rather convenient. The major point for 1.5 is for custom game improvements. I think it is a large step back into the right direction. Starcraft II has emphasized too hard on E-sports and ladder and kind of forget that for the majority of players out there, they just want a game of 3v3 without records, or a 4v4 versus computer, or a DoTA game.

While I mainly play ladder game, a custom game here and there is really great.

While I agree that the game should also cater to casual players to a certain degree, the amount of data presented in the current UI is just absolutely horrendous. The fact that "Profile Summary" presents some of the most useless information (Games Played This Season, Most Played Mode, Total Career Games" is really unacceptable.

People were already complaining when Blizzard took away stats (win/loss count for below Master), now they just made everything even less accessible to everyone is just mind boggling. The thing that most people want is win ratio vs. races in terms of data presentation, and they have taken majors steps away from that idea to the point that I'm surprised they didn't just post a giant thumbs up on the home screen to make you feel better.
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