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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2012 04:46 GMT
#41
On July 25 2012 13:45 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:44 lichter wrote:
Do B teamers and A teamers have the same practice regimen? That would be an interesting bit of info, because it could be possible that MMA was demoted to give him an easier practice schedule, but was against being demoted in principle (star player getting demoted? Even if all it means is more lax schedule).

Still not official info though.

i believe slayers b-teamers don't live in the house?

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:45 MasterKang wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Son of a gun...

IMO, the reddit thread and this thread are yet again NOT solid evidence T-T...


My friend who watched the stream said that he explicitly said "mma no want to play sc2". I'll try to find it in the VOD but I am 99% sure that this is the right explanation. Besides, does any other scenario make more sense to you?

yeah. dat wallet.


I guess we'll find out more during the GSTL finals. Who was it that said MMA was starting? Was it Coca?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 25 2012 04:48 GMT
#42
On July 25 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:45 opterown wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:44 lichter wrote:
Do B teamers and A teamers have the same practice regimen? That would be an interesting bit of info, because it could be possible that MMA was demoted to give him an easier practice schedule, but was against being demoted in principle (star player getting demoted? Even if all it means is more lax schedule).

Still not official info though.

i believe slayers b-teamers don't live in the house?

On July 25 2012 13:45 MasterKang wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Son of a gun...

IMO, the reddit thread and this thread are yet again NOT solid evidence T-T...


My friend who watched the stream said that he explicitly said "mma no want to play sc2". I'll try to find it in the VOD but I am 99% sure that this is the right explanation. Besides, does any other scenario make more sense to you?

yeah. dat wallet.


I guess we'll find out more during the GSTL finals. Who was it that said MMA was starting? Was it Coca?

JYP; and yeah also some thisisgame article
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evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 04:53:35
July 25 2012 04:52 GMT
#43
MMA just won an extremely tough match versus HerO and is starting in the GSTL.

I'd wager his passion is just fine.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 04:54:00
July 25 2012 04:53 GMT
#44
On July 25 2012 13:52 evoli wrote:
MMA lost his passion, was demoted, and moved out? And as an act of solidarity Crank and Ryung also left the house?

That doesn't make sense.

ryung left too!??!

abuse that EG partnership and clear it up for us!
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Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
July 25 2012 04:54 GMT
#45
so, if this is correct

MMA wants to join a foreign team so he can practice less and get paid a salary and win foreign tournaments.
I wouldn't mind this
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 25 2012 04:55 GMT
#46
On July 25 2012 13:52 evoli wrote:
MMA just won an extremely tough match versus HerO and is starting in the GSTL.

I'd wager his passion is just fine.

I think the passion may have more to do with his willingness to practice.

I remember there was a period during which Stork was playing cell phone games very very late into the night, every night, and his practice wasn't particularly hardcore at all compared to his usual regime. But he still won quite a bit
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 04:59:54
July 25 2012 04:55 GMT
#47
On July 25 2012 13:52 evoli wrote:
MMA just won an extremely tough match versus HerO and is starting in the GSTL.

I'd wager his passion is just fine.


You of all people should know that just playing/winning matches doesn't equal passion for the game since idra has said numerous times he has no passion for the game and hates it, but plays it cause it's his job. Also, MMA looked like someone killed his dog after beating hero.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 25 2012 04:58 GMT
#48
On July 25 2012 13:52 evoli wrote:
MMA just won an extremely tough match versus HerO and is starting in the GSTL.

I'd wager his passion is just fine.


Even if he recently stopped practicin as much, it's not like his skill level would have dropped dramatically. And not wanting to play doesn't mean not playing at all, I'm pretty sure it means playing minimally
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 25 2012 04:58 GMT
#49
If this is true, I think things like this are where poor game design decisions (and possibly rash balance patches due to Kim's positive incentive to be proactive) come back to haunt the community in the long run.
AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
July 25 2012 04:58 GMT
#50
I'm really interested to see what's going to happen next~
I hope MMA won't quit.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 25 2012 05:05 GMT
#51
On July 25 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:45 opterown wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:44 lichter wrote:
Do B teamers and A teamers have the same practice regimen? That would be an interesting bit of info, because it could be possible that MMA was demoted to give him an easier practice schedule, but was against being demoted in principle (star player getting demoted? Even if all it means is more lax schedule).

Still not official info though.

i believe slayers b-teamers don't live in the house?

On July 25 2012 13:45 MasterKang wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Son of a gun...

IMO, the reddit thread and this thread are yet again NOT solid evidence T-T...


My friend who watched the stream said that he explicitly said "mma no want to play sc2". I'll try to find it in the VOD but I am 99% sure that this is the right explanation. Besides, does any other scenario make more sense to you?

yeah. dat wallet.


I guess we'll find out more during the GSTL finals. Who was it that said MMA was starting? Was it Coca?



It's on the liquipedia page as well: if you click on the "show" tab on the slayers-eg vs fx-open final it shows Gumiho vs MMA

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_Team_League_Season_2/Playoffs
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RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
July 25 2012 05:06 GMT
#52
MMA, i know you can be the best in the world, please don't quit sc2
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 05:08:37
July 25 2012 05:08 GMT
#53
I'm almost more curious about the fact Crank appears to have left Slayers. If true, he's another talented free agent on the market.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 25 2012 05:09 GMT
#54
On July 25 2012 13:58 AMaidensWrath wrote:
I'm really interested to see what's going to happen next~
I hope MMA won't quit.


I doubt it, proberly just a motivation slump, it happens to either winners like him or those who almost made it but lost.
MMA does not seem the guy to me to quit just right away, i am sure he's got to deal with his mental state and in no time he will find his form again.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 25 2012 05:09 GMT
#55
On July 25 2012 13:58 AMaidensWrath wrote:
I'm really interested to see what's going to happen next~
I hope MMA won't quit.

Who said anything about quitting?And why make such a big deal out of this?He's human after all.It's hard to stay focused at the same thing month after month,year after year.Specialy at the highest level.I think all he need's is a couple of week's to cool off,then he can come back with full energy and start asskicking again.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#56
Hmm, strange how things seems to have turned upside down so quickly. A month ago he seemed very motivated and straight forward about what he wanted when he was interviewed by Rachel for CSN. "2 years, only game no girls" doesn't sound something someone who lost motivation and just slacks would say.

I wonder if it is because of the patch or if there is something like the team atmosphere not being as great anymore etc that changed it. Hope it turns out good for him soon. :/
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 05:12:55
July 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#57
what does he think he is, american?
this really doesn't bode well for mma in the long run. sure he's really good now and can coast for a while off of what he knows. but sc2 is changing every week and if he doesn't put in the time he's just going to fall off, simple as that

edit: this explanation is also much more simple and believable than any other alternative.. so i accept it
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 25 2012 05:15 GMT
#58
HOTS WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 25 2012 05:16 GMT
#59
Yes let's use a Korean that speaks poor English as an English source while posting no proof of any sort, seems like a great idea!
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 25 2012 05:16 GMT
#60
so why didn't crank say the reason he left? he's obviously hiding something
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