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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#301
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Vildhjerta
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden20 Posts
July 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#302
On July 18 2012 22:58 effervescent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 22:57 rave[wcr] wrote:
On July 18 2012 22:33 Ramanujan wrote:
On July 18 2012 22:15 rave[wcr] wrote:
they shld try to get someone who was a playboy model AND has some sort of background concerning electronics and video games. ie sara underwood. id settle for some hot cosplayer like milynn sarley.


Yeah let's limit the group of models that want to work in gaming further...


id rather work with a limited but concentrated and included model group than a wide one without any focus. i dont want some pamela anderson wanna be derping around premier tournaments being awkward n shit.


Please, please tell me somebody else heard Lauren Elise say she hoped there "weren't midgets walking around" because she was wearing a dress...


Yup...
Ramanujan
Profile Joined April 2012
137 Posts
July 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#303
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


SEXIST

User was warned for this post
supervizor
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands42 Posts
July 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#304
On July 18 2012 22:58 effervescent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 22:57 rave[wcr] wrote:
On July 18 2012 22:33 Ramanujan wrote:
On July 18 2012 22:15 rave[wcr] wrote:
they shld try to get someone who was a playboy model AND has some sort of background concerning electronics and video games. ie sara underwood. id settle for some hot cosplayer like milynn sarley.


Yeah let's limit the group of models that want to work in gaming further...


id rather work with a limited but concentrated and included model group than a wide one without any focus. i dont want some pamela anderson wanna be derping around premier tournaments being awkward n shit.


Please, please tell me somebody else heard Lauren Elise say she hoped there "weren't midgets walking around" because she was wearing a dress...


If she actually said that, i gotta say... :D:D:D:D
Vildhjerta
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden20 Posts
July 18 2012 14:07 GMT
#305
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


Im not adressing you specifically, and that you like attractive women is not relevant I was wondering about other peoples views on what I wrote about. In my original post and some of the answers I have explained what "my" problem is, or what I think IS a problem. (Note: what I think is a problem, it is my own opinion)
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:10:03
July 18 2012 14:09 GMT
#306
On July 18 2012 08:28 Fumble wrote:
I dont understand the issue. I was at the event and in no way did her lack of starcraft knowledge impede with what she did. She was a model for the NASL event, she helped hand out prizes and lead players to their booths. She was perfectly qualified for what she did.

How come you arn't ripping on other senseless things? What about the cameraman that was at NASL. He did not look like he knew anything about starcraft. What about the truck drivers that drove all the equipment up? Hmmm.... sounds like NASL had a lot of unqualified people helping run the show.

If your issue has to do with the social implications of having women objectified in front of thousands of viewers then you are posting on the wrong forum. Every industry does it and although that is a more debatable issue, it only goes in circles. Quite frankly, if they had an unattractive girl or a dude do the same thing as what Lauren was doing, I would of thought NASL was such an unprofessional organization.


This post wins the thread. Completely agree. There are things that come as natural. Sweeping majority of audience are male. Hiring a female as assistance person is nothing wrong. Nothing at all. She is working such jobs, and do them well.
Vildhjerta
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden20 Posts
July 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#307
On July 18 2012 23:09 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:28 Fumble wrote:
I dont understand the issue. I was at the event and in no way did her lack of starcraft knowledge impede with what she did. She was a model for the NASL event, she helped hand out prizes and lead players to their booths. She was perfectly qualified for what she did.

How come you arn't ripping on other senseless things? What about the cameraman that was at NASL. He did not look like he knew anything about starcraft. What about the truck drivers that drove all the equipment up? Hmmm.... sounds like NASL had a lot of unqualified people helping run the show.

If your issue has to do with the social implications of having women objectified in front of thousands of viewers then you are posting on the wrong forum. Every industry does it and although that is a more debatable issue, it only goes in circles. Quite frankly, if they had an unattractive girl or a dude do the same thing as what Lauren was doing, I would of thought NASL was such an unprofessional organization.


This post wins the thread. Completely agree. There are things that come as natural. Sweeping majority of audience are male. Hiring a female as assistance person is nothing wrong. Nothing at all. She is working such jobs, and do them well.



Is the cameraman or the truck drivers up for public display?

I know the majority are male people, as I wrote in the original post. I also said that I understand why it feels natural, but I question the choice anyway and ask for others opinion.

So know I know your opinion, thank you very much
supervizor
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands42 Posts
July 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#308
On July 18 2012 23:07 Vildhjerta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


Im not adressing you specifically, and that you like attractive women is not relevant I was wondering about other peoples views on what I wrote about. In my original post and some of the answers I have explained what "my" problem is, or what I think IS a problem. (Note: what I think is a problem, it is my own opinion)


Ye but your "problem" if i understood it correctly is:

1) Don't we need people with understanding off the game? Imo, no cause she wasn't casting as far as i know (correct me if im wrong)

2) Does this send a bad message? Using attractive people to host events is pretty normal and i don't see a problem with this. Besides, ur assuming she was chosen because of her looks and not because she seemed to be a decent host. Maybe the confidence she gains from her looks is a key part in her being a good host?
effervescent
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:20:57
July 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#309
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


My problem is, WHERE IS MY SHIRTLESS TASTELESS.

Edit: And/or Clutch.
kill or be killed.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 18 2012 14:23 GMT
#310
When I first read the title I thought it said "How to prevent females from the StarCraft II community". Haha.

However, the points you bring up are no different than typical, everyday sexism that goes on in society. Video games in general is very male dominated activity. Hiring attractive women as the host of an event happens in every televised show, broadcast, stream, etc. They are simply appealing to their target market.

It sounds like you're arguing that you want more male hosts for these types of events over female hosts. To me it sounds like such a trivial thing to really debate. Why does it matter whether or not the host of the event has a penis or a vagina? I'm not there to gauge their sex; I'm there to watch StarCraft.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
July 18 2012 14:24 GMT
#311
On July 18 2012 23:20 effervescent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


My problem is, WHERE IS MY SHIRTLESS TASTELESS.

Edit: And/or Clutch.

Here you go: Shirtless Tasteless

One problem solved, what else?
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 18 2012 14:25 GMT
#312
I have to say that the hostess is really pretty and is blonde which is a "Yes" for me . I think having more eye candy at event and watching the games live at the same time is going to make the event more exciting and I see no reason this will humiliate the image of how "female" is potrayed in a event like this .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
effervescent
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:25:37
July 18 2012 14:25 GMT
#313
On July 18 2012 23:24 Poffel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:20 effervescent wrote:
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


My problem is, WHERE IS MY SHIRTLESS TASTELESS.

Edit: And/or Clutch.

Here you go: Shirtless Tasteless

One problem solved, what else?

I have a very important question: Is that a Starbucks apron...?
kill or be killed.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:28:35
July 18 2012 14:25 GMT
#314
On July 18 2012 23:12 Vildhjerta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:09 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On July 18 2012 08:28 Fumble wrote:
I dont understand the issue. I was at the event and in no way did her lack of starcraft knowledge impede with what she did. She was a model for the NASL event, she helped hand out prizes and lead players to their booths. She was perfectly qualified for what she did.

How come you arn't ripping on other senseless things? What about the cameraman that was at NASL. He did not look like he knew anything about starcraft. What about the truck drivers that drove all the equipment up? Hmmm.... sounds like NASL had a lot of unqualified people helping run the show.

If your issue has to do with the social implications of having women objectified in front of thousands of viewers then you are posting on the wrong forum. Every industry does it and although that is a more debatable issue, it only goes in circles. Quite frankly, if they had an unattractive girl or a dude do the same thing as what Lauren was doing, I would of thought NASL was such an unprofessional organization.


This post wins the thread. Completely agree. There are things that come as natural. Sweeping majority of audience are male. Hiring a female as assistance person is nothing wrong. Nothing at all. She is working such jobs, and do them well.



Is the cameraman or the truck drivers up for public display?

I know the majority are male people, as I wrote in the original post. I also said that I understand why it feels natural, but I question the choice anyway and ask for others opinion.

So know I know your opinion, thank you very much


When people hand out items, the camera shows the one who hands them out. It doesnt mean they have to be proffesionals. Do the people at tennis court that gather the balls also are also required to be proffesionals? They get screen time too. What are requirements for that? They must take the ball as soon as they can, so the pros can carry on. Yes she got some live mic time, but does it matter? Also for the notice, sure she didnt know anything about starcraft before (just a guess), but she tried to learn something, and did what research she could before the show. You dont need to close the door before people enter, because it is possible that in the future she might be much much more knowledgeable and more engaged with starcraft. But if not, she just did her job, thats all.
If the she didnt talk at all, well that would be a problem, dont you think? Silent female handing out items.
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
July 18 2012 14:31 GMT
#315
How to present sc2 to females?Pffftt simple, introduce them to Boxer, that hotty boy <3!!
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 18 2012 14:34 GMT
#316
This thread is silly.

I will contribute by saying we need Megumixbear to clone herself and host every event.

megumi chan <3
I love crazymoving
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#317
I don't really care either way. I never pay attention when there isn't a game on and mute the stream if the casters are being annoying, so I can't see any way that the way a female is presented could get on my nerves...
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10698 Posts
July 18 2012 14:47 GMT
#318
Imho we should have trained Monkeys (among various other animals) for these kind of Jobs.

That would be truely unique.
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
July 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#319
On July 18 2012 23:47 Velr wrote:
Imho we should have trained Monkeys (among various other animals) for these kind of Jobs.

That would be truely unique.

Would that we could. Would that we could my friend.
Guess who`s special?!
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
July 18 2012 15:01 GMT
#320
On July 18 2012 23:13 supervizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:07 Vildhjerta wrote:
On July 18 2012 23:05 r.Evo wrote:
I like looking at hot women. I also enjoy listening to them. She's not a commentator, she's a host.

What exactly is your problem?


Im not adressing you specifically, and that you like attractive women is not relevant I was wondering about other peoples views on what I wrote about. In my original post and some of the answers I have explained what "my" problem is, or what I think IS a problem. (Note: what I think is a problem, it is my own opinion)


Ye but your "problem" if i understood it correctly is:

1) Don't we need people with understanding off the game? Imo, no cause she wasn't casting as far as i know (correct me if im wrong)

2) Does this send a bad message? Using attractive people to host events is pretty normal and i don't see a problem with this. Besides, ur assuming she was chosen because of her looks and not because she seemed to be a decent host. Maybe the confidence she gains from her looks is a key part in her being a good host?


To be blunt, her problem is that she's a starcraft girl-gamer, and she's pissed that another women who doesn't really care for the game gets attention just because she's hot, she feels that's unfair to her but she knows that she can't just say what she really feels.
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