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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
June 25 2012 19:51 GMT
#181
That's really weird. I almost feel like I'm inundated with advertising the whole time while watching SC2. Just because this isn't TV is no excuse for sponsors to create a clusterfuck of logos all over the cast. I think they get more than enough exposure, and if they want more, they should sponsor more events.
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toiletCAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Qatar284 Posts
June 25 2012 19:53 GMT
#182
On June 26 2012 04:51 dUTtrOACh wrote:
That's really weird. I almost feel like I'm inundated with advertising the whole time while watching SC2. Just because this isn't TV is no excuse for sponsors to create a clusterfuck of logos all over the cast. I think they get more than enough exposure, and if they want more, they should sponsor more events.


Think is the keyword here.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
June 25 2012 20:05 GMT
#183
You know, in football/soccer/basketball/whatever they typically stick a sponsor logo right by the score/stats tracker displayed in the corner of the screen. I think the equivalent in SC would be to slap the logo(s) right beneath the supply/resource counter, or maybe even the player names.
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
June 25 2012 20:13 GMT
#184
I wouldn't mind spawning in the Grizzlebee's Onion Burst base rather than the 12 o' Clock.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 25 2012 20:42 GMT
#185
What about having a custom overlay that replaces the unit portrait with some kind of looping graphic of sponsors relevant to the teams and players involved in the current match-up. Or create those videos like EG does with thier sponsors. Give out patches at events for people to put on their team jersey like the actual team has.
27raven
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic89 Posts
June 25 2012 20:51 GMT
#186
People seem to be mixing up sponsors of the tournament and ads on the sites like twitch with sponsors of the teams playing. Team sponsors usually don't get almost any exposure in online casts of SC tourneys where you can't see the players jacket. And that's seriously bad because they give teams money just for the exposure of their brand.

To everyone whining - ads are great, learn to love them. It's the only reason we can have so many things on the Internet for free.
firrae
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada68 Posts
June 25 2012 20:56 GMT
#187
On June 25 2012 20:47 papaz wrote:
What does a person has to do to get away from ads nowadays?

I already get enough exposure of ads through TV and different sites (although I use adblock). Let me have a relaxing ad free experience with at least Starcraft 2.

No, I don't think sponsors should get anything in the game at all!


Ok, so in your world how do players make money playing games like Starcraft? I watch many sports other than the electronic ones and the one that stand out the most to me is hockey. They have ads on the boards, under the ice, and all around the buildings where ever they can put them. Yet I never hear a complaint about it. Why? Because it fits in fine and is unobtrusive. I believe what the OP is trying to do in this thread is come up with ways to do the same for eSports.

If you think eSports is fine where it is and it will grow without more advertisers your sadly mistaken. We need more advertisers to grow and unless you have places to put advertisers they won't come.

You say you "get enough exposure of ads through TV," that's fine and dandy but TL doesn't get a cut of that, EG doesn't get a cut of that, IPL doesn't get a cut of that. The only people/company that gets a cut from the advertising your talking about is the company that owns what your watching it on. You also say you use ad-blocker, and I do too mind you, but I also realize that ads are how people make money. I turn it off for every site that I want to support: TL, EG's site, Twitch, etc.

Too many ads will kill eSports when done wrong, but what we as a community need to find is the balance between having enough to support the community and the sport, and working them in so they don't turn people off from watching it. If you dislike ads so much that you never want to see one, stick to pay-per-view events else don't complain.
HA! You can only kill idiots and slow moving vehicles with lazers!!! ... FUCK!!!!!!!!!
Blackfoger
Profile Joined April 2011
81 Posts
June 25 2012 22:12 GMT
#188

On June 26 2012 01:36 FreudianTrip wrote:


God fucking damnit. This is like the 8th time someone has quoted one of my posts and said this. Do you people just not read or are you trying to twist my point of view to make it sound like I'm some crazy belligerent outlier that smells weird and walks around wearing a tin-foil hat? Because it's definitely one of the two.

Not one fucking person has come up with a single idea that creates a new type of awareness with-in eSports. All that's been pushed is the same 3 fucking ideas that always get pushed and they're bad ideas. The reason they haven't been incorporated is because they don't create extra awareness they just create more of the same awareness. And you aren't going to negotiate a raise on your advertising contract by saying to your sponsor, "Yeah we're going to show your logo for an extra 3 seconds every half an hour. Gimme another 20k"

That's not how it works. If a logo is surrounded by 10 other logos it loses it's effectiveness so it's a bad idea in that way, if it's a one brand tournament, let's take ZOTAC Cups or Playhem Dailys as an example. An extra ZOTAC or Playhem logo on the map isn't creating anymore brand awareness than before so you're not going to pay extra to receive said sponsorship.
[/QUOTE]

Actually you are wrong yet again, please don't talk unless you know the business behind esports. http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=507251. Having more sponsors and money is going to help the community. More advertising helps and is able to push Esports. The money has been increasing year to year same with the amount of viewership MLG Anaheim is key evidence of that. The Esports model is based upon capitalism as others have put it and we are reliant on sponsorships. The OP asked the question to help the community in some sense and I commend him for asking the question. It;s the same question all sc2 teams are asking to increase their income.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 25 2012 22:18 GMT
#189
On June 25 2012 20:37 FreudianTrip wrote:
and the lings gain little Nike shoes


bahahahhaa

well played sir
PGtour admin
Corvette
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States433 Posts
June 25 2012 22:23 GMT
#190
people need to realize that if you want something for free or at the very least cheap.

You are going to get advertisements.

Its a fact of life. Few good things can be done cheaply without advertising dollars.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
June 25 2012 23:28 GMT
#191
who gives a shit if sponsors want more exposure, there's always more sponsors begging to take the spot on team jerseys
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
June 25 2012 23:29 GMT
#192
Sponsors of MLG and big tournaments should put Logos onto the maps
its really not that hard
T_T
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
June 25 2012 23:31 GMT
#193
Maps need sponsor names on it and tournaments need more commercials. The more commercials showing products and branding, the more exposure... especially to the likes of MLG since MLG doesn't have enough commercials. I think that HD passes need to show more commercials. Show more EG commercials! Oh and sc on tv would be nice too.
Save me from myself
shishy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States115 Posts
June 25 2012 23:44 GMT
#194
while I see your point, it should not be your job to do this. Leave it to the advertisers If anything, the only plausible Suggestion would be to engrain logos in the map. Random advertisements seems like an awful idea since pauses are not frequent enough for that SCheme. Overall that idea just seems like a silly suggestion Have fun.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
June 25 2012 23:45 GMT
#195
There are places on the screen that can be effectively used for sponsors that currently is not. They are getting better at it, using the hotkey, unit photo and such for ads. I think properly, team sponsors be demanding space in those spots from the tournament organizers. Similar to advertising setup Rally's I was part of. Certain spaces on the car was designated for the Rally organization, other spots were left available for the car/team sponsors to us. I see a similar thing in the future for SC2 where locations on the screen, play times etcetera are more clearly defined. Another thing they could do is introduce (16 man, perhaps maybe 32 man) tournaments do a brief intro of each player/sponsor at the very start of the tournament.

Or perhaps they already are and I haven't noticed.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
June 26 2012 00:30 GMT
#196
Irave and others: I see your point that it is not the Tournaments responsibility to promote the team or players supporters - they only have an obligation to support the Series and its direct supporters.

On a legal side, that is perfectly within their rights.

However, as noted in John TB Bain's interview, it makes sense to have a player spotlight, in his case his suggestion was a Name Team and sponsors stripe for the score board. This benefits the players, their team, and their sponsors greatly. If a few tournaments did this - especially the Online ones, it makes it quite easy for a player or a team to decide where to spend their time, vs a tournament which does not make this minor concession to support the player, his team, and his sponsors.

So, its an active, reactive thing. What takes little for the series to do, benefits the players, which in turn benefits the series. Failure to adapt to what other series are doing to attact bigger and better names, means not getting what the fans want - the top players. If IPL did a player spotlight before each match, and did this, MLG would see a transition of players from their series, or vice versa. It benefits all to make some minor changes.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
June 26 2012 00:38 GMT
#197
On June 25 2012 20:25 skeldark wrote:
You are kidding me?

You ask yourself how sponsers can annoy us with more advertise?
You also ask yourself how company's could get more money from you and how you are able to buy a product for more money than they want?
You know what i have a solution.
Because you are so worry about them making money, you just give them all your money and we dont see shit advertise ingame!


Sports is a platform for advertising, that's how it makes money, deal with it, without advertisements you wouldnt be able to watch esports for free.
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 26 2012 01:11 GMT
#198
Maybe someone suggested it already but would be pretty easy and relatively quick to do.

Just before a game throw up an overlay that goes through a given player's sponsors. 5 seconds a sponsor, generic voice over.

EG Demuslim is sponsored by;
Intel logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
Monster logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
Steelseries logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
etc running though all companies with a full screen logo, every company gets the same 5 seconds.

Liquid Hero is sponsored by;
The Little App Factory logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
Razor logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
Twitch.tv logo (voice over guy with company tagline)
etc.

Quick and dirty, gets the sponsors exposure before every game. Can be thrown up with an overlay so no ad block sniping them. They do the exact same thing after like every commercial break for real sports.
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Chicodog
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark154 Posts
June 26 2012 01:49 GMT
#199
This thread makes me so sad. How about you just let sponsors worry about this?

Helping ESPORTS????? I could not disagree anymore. I don't want more pauses or stupid sponsor signs in the middle of the maps. If it means fewer tournaments and less prize money, so be it.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
June 26 2012 04:25 GMT
#200
On June 26 2012 10:49 Chicodog wrote:
This thread makes me so sad. How about you just let sponsors worry about this?

Helping ESPORTS????? I could not disagree anymore. I don't want more pauses or stupid sponsor signs in the middle of the maps. If it means fewer tournaments and less prize money, so be it.



I don't... I...

What?

YOU may not like it, fine. But advertisements are 100% helping eSports, and to support those companies who are advertising would support the scene. If Intel sees a 15% increase in sales directly related to their sponsorship of some eSports team or competition, they will at the least continue to throw the same money at the scene. Possibly more. More money means more events/teams/players get noticed. More events/teams/players getting noticed means more opportunities for those of us rinky-dink players to see real competition.

I'm never going to be a pro player, but I could make Semi-Pro, and ya know what, if we increase the scene I'm going to have a place where I can compete in these semi-pro tournaments. And ya know what, that's fine if you don't care about that stuff, but to even hint that advertisements and ad revenues are not helping eSports is beyond ignorant.

I want to see more ads. Why? Because I want this stuff to blow up for real. I want MVP and MC making millions, I want more tournaments for the Suppys and Eifers to win, to work their way into the big leagues. I want more more more. And I don't even need to follow these events to appreciate their existence. Them being here just makes everything better.
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