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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 21 2012 19:27 GMT
#81
yay I love all the Korean pro whines! Makes me happy that there are some outspoken figureheads for terran like there were for Zerg in the past
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
eFonSG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
June 21 2012 19:31 GMT
#82
I really dont like playing against zergs, so all the zerg hate makes me smile
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
June 21 2012 19:36 GMT
#83
As a mostly terran player I'm really disappointed with both ryung and MKP, freaking babies ;_;

They might be mindgaming though!
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
June 21 2012 19:36 GMT
#84
On June 21 2012 21:40 Aunvilgod wrote:
... And the terrans will try to get only T groups: T_T T_T

lool thatll be hilarious
IM & EG supporter
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 19:45:45
June 21 2012 19:38 GMT
#85
God I miss my days in War3 where it was common ettique among pro players not to complain about balance (Of course with a few exceptions but those were looked down upon). It gave everyone else something to look up to. It created this image that pros don't think balance, they think solutions.


I dunno why everyone has gotten so whiny in SC2 TT. There has litterally never been a periode where a big chunck of pros (+part of community, of course) didn't cry imba on the behalf of their race. First Zerg, then Toss and now even the Terrans have fallen.

MKP in particular is a little disappointing. Been watching his games, and amazing as they are, I get kinda frustrated watching how often he gets killed by a cheese just cause he tries to be greedy too often, and people have figured this out. Watching Symbol actually go one base vs him on Entombed should let him know it's time to play abit safer I feel :p
He definitely has the skill to play safe and win.

Other than that, great interviews
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
ShynZ
Profile Joined September 2010
331 Posts
June 21 2012 19:39 GMT
#86
thx god for the website, now i dont have to wait for the interviews!
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
June 21 2012 19:40 GMT
#87
didnt translate ryungs last answer! there is a shout out to me and 2 other people
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
June 21 2012 19:47 GMT
#88
Mentioning Stephano in two interviews, this guy is becoming a star...
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 19:52:35
June 21 2012 19:50 GMT
#89
On June 22 2012 04:38 Cereb wrote:
God I miss my days in War3 where it was common ettique among pro players not to complain about balance (Of course with a few exceptions but those were looked down upon). It gave everyone else something to look up to. It created this image that pros don't think balance, they think solutions.


I dunno why everyone has gotten so whiny in SC2 TT. There has litterally never been a periode where a big chunck of pros (+part of community, of course) didn't cry imba on the behalf of their race. First Zerg, then Toss and now even the Terrans have fallen.

MKP in particular is a little disappointing. Been watching his games, and amazing as they are, I get kinda frustrated watching how often he gets killed by a cheese just cause he tries to be greedy too often, and people have figured this out. Watching Symbol actually go one base vs him on Entombed should let him know it's time to play abit safer I feel :p
He definitely has the skill to play safe and win.

Other than that, great interviews


lol he explains he has 10% winrate vs zerg. cereb answer: he should stop being greedy and rely on standard play.

huh

also war3 players were like ten times as whiny as star2 ones ? and also very bm too.
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 19:59:49
June 21 2012 19:59 GMT
#90
the game has never been as imbalanced as it is now, maybe back in the beta. You have to understand how stupid the game is right now where NA zergs can easily beat KR terrans. Just imagine how frustrating it is for them and their pride, it really is understandable why they are whining so much.

Edit: blizz won't fix till HotS unless ALOT of progamers voice their opinions, which is what we need.
Question.?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#91
Lol, I love ryung's answer as not being able to beat NA zergs on ladder as proof of the imbalance.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#92
On June 22 2012 05:11 Canucklehead wrote:
Lol, I love ryung's answer as not being able to beat NA zergs on ladder as proof of the imbalance.


just watch forgg stream hes so mad he cant win there anymore
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 21 2012 20:58 GMT
#93
On June 22 2012 04:38 Cereb wrote:
God I miss my days in War3 where it was common ettique among pro players not to complain about balance (Of course with a few exceptions but those were looked down upon). It gave everyone else something to look up to. It created this image that pros don't think balance, they think solutions.

I am really curious how this went with BW since there barely are any patches.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
June 21 2012 21:08 GMT
#94
On June 22 2012 04:38 Cereb wrote:
God I miss my days in War3 where it was common ettique among pro players not to complain about balance (Of course with a few exceptions but those were looked down upon). It gave everyone else something to look up to. It created this image that pros don't think balance, they think solutions.


I dunno why everyone has gotten so whiny in SC2 TT. There has litterally never been a periode where a big chunck of pros (+part of community, of course) didn't cry imba on the behalf of their race. First Zerg, then Toss and now even the Terrans have fallen.

MKP in particular is a little disappointing. Been watching his games, and amazing as they are, I get kinda frustrated watching how often he gets killed by a cheese just cause he tries to be greedy too often, and people have figured this out. Watching Symbol actually go one base vs him on Entombed should let him know it's time to play abit safer I feel :p
He definitely has the skill to play safe and win.

Other than that, great interviews


The reason for everyone crying is because Blizzard are a bunch of incompetent fools who keep messing up the game and wasting everyones time.
Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
June 21 2012 21:23 GMT
#95
When will there be an interview with TaeJa up? I'm anxiously awaiting it
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 22:01:31
June 21 2012 21:59 GMT
#96
The fact that I'm getting more balance complaints as a respons to me being sad and tired of the pro's of every race in SC2 complaining about balance is kinda saddening.

Blizzard is definitely not a bunch of incompetent fools. Making the most balanced and successful RTS games of all time, with the second place not even being close to their ability to make amazing games.
War3 pros definitely complained alot less. I followed that scene for many many years.
Am I not allowed to comment on MKP's play? Is this right reserved for Terran players talking about how horrible every Zerg player who loses are? I am not talking about this 10% winrate that he apparantly has in practice unlike his tournament games. I just wish he wouldn't.

I long for the day when this game will no longer be patched. Maybe then people will feel that their complaints are fruitless unlike these times where people are acting like children begging their daddy (Blizzard) for stuff all the bloody time.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
DAKnockout
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany3 Posts
June 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#97
Good interviews, always nice to read.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
June 21 2012 22:14 GMT
#98
If the game is unbalanced, you should WANT people to bring it up. Balance whining is only annoying when the problem lies with the player, not the game.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
June 21 2012 22:26 GMT
#99
Maybe if Warcraft 3 pros discussed balance more, all 4 races would be viable and the scene might still be around.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 22:32:30
June 21 2012 22:31 GMT
#100
On June 22 2012 06:59 Cereb wrote:
The fact that I'm getting more balance complaints as a respons to me being sad and tired of the pro's of every race in SC2 complaining about balance is kinda saddening.

Blizzard is definitely not a bunch of incompetent fools. Making the most balanced and successful RTS games of all time, with the second place not even being close to their ability to make amazing games.
War3 pros definitely complained alot less. I followed that scene for many many years.
Am I not allowed to comment on MKP's play? Is this right reserved for Terran players talking about how horrible every Zerg player who loses are? I am not talking about this 10% winrate that he apparantly has in practice unlike his tournament games. I just wish he wouldn't.

I long for the day when this game will no longer be patched. Maybe then people will feel that their complaints are fruitless unlike these times where people are acting like children begging their daddy (Blizzard) for stuff all the bloody time.


That's so untrue.
UD and NE complained for years about tanks/towers which on a lot of maps was an unbeatable strat when plaid right.
It eventually got patched.

Same thing about HU tower-rush.

Do you remember mass dryads back at the time they only were 40xp and that the tree of life buildtime was ridiculously low ?
It got patched as well.

Also mass druid of the talons back when Orc SW were not resistant to cyclone was way too strong : all Orcs complained about it and it got patched.

Also gnollwood was considerd as a freewin for Orc, and LT a freewin for HU.
That mattered a lot since War3 had only ~6-7 maps in its pool.

Plus, 80% of all the comment section of both replayers.com and wcreplays.com consisted in balance complains.

Everybody complained about balance in War3.
Even when the game was dying, people were still complaining about balance, about the blademaster more precisely, and the fact that Orc was winning 3/4 of the tournaments.
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