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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
EDIT: I'm a goon!!!!! and P won! I'm so happy and confused! | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Basically, its GO IN and plant entomb and GO OUT. How is that even called harassing? You dun need much micro or skill to do it. They should make it require at least some micro like the banshee or mutalisk harass. 22 range tempest won't make it into the game.That is definitely OP. Could see viper abduct range being nerfed. Binding cloud is fine if it only works on bio. So ultralisk burrow charge do damage upon unburrowing?Sick. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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mememolly
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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cydial
United States750 Posts
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Scila
Canada1849 Posts
On June 09 2012 06:29 di3alot wrote: wow the wahound looks terrible. and the laser stuff is just awful. oh man i hope this unit does not make it in or gets a new design, it looks so out of place horrible. Yeah they should just suck it up and make a proper goliath + buff the tank back to at least be worthy of its Brood War history. Then Terran can actually make mech the whole game instead of being on a timer against Blords / Deathball. | ||
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NeonFox
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On June 09 2012 06:16 Adreme wrote: That wasnt a mothership. That was a mothership core that I believe can be upgraded into a mothership. Also the Tempest range didnt seem that useful except when killing swarm host and dodging vipers. Other than that it seemed like most of what it did was rather inconsequential. Yeah, my bad with the Mothership Core. It has other uses too though like that cannon.Tempest range looks completely imbalanced though. As a terran, I imagine something where the protoss army is sitting outside my base and the tempest just rapes all my buildings -_- Maybe Blizzard wanted to give protoss a unit that can break a hardore turtler but the Tempest is overkill. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Mothership seems really... it just seems a bit awkward. It doesn't really fit in. Can it only stay on your nexus? I'll have to see more games but I can see a lot of changes to it as HotS develops. The entombed spell is OP as hell. They should have kept it to the original and only have it entomb one mineral patch at the time at a reduced energy cost. Even if you react right away to this it's still a guaranteed 30-1m loss of mining time, and if you have three behind a base each and even semi-consistently do it then it will be really hard for zerg. Not sure about cloaking field, but could be interesting to do a small attack on an expansion with cloak then run. Swarm host seems pretty useless in later stages. Locust die so quickly and there seems to be so few of them. It seems like they are consciously trying not to make it the same as the lurker, even though it would probably work much better. Perhaps either buff the movement speed of the locust or make it an upgrade, or let the swarm host produce more locust at a time, or produce them quicker, or give the locust more health, whatever! At the moment, as shown in the video, even if you have near 10 swarm host they are not as effective as I think they probably should be. Tempest seems really strange, 22 range? Unnecessary imo. I'm not sure about their use even from the video. The widow mine or whatever it is seems promising. As Browder says there's like a one in a million chance of a pro-player actually being affected by the splash, but it seems like a nice map control unit, same role as spider mine. Potential to get it into mineral lines could cause a lot of disruption. Warhound, seems like another 1a unit. Pretty uninteresting from what was shown, I think TvT might just turn bio vs bio now, which will suck. Why does Blizzard always want to discourage mech play? tt The blue flame hellion that turns into a mech guy... doesn't show how fast it is so I'm not sure how compatible it will be with bio, but looks essential for late game TvP and you could probably make some nice timings out of it. They don't seem to kill zealots substantially quicker than normal bio, though. Zerg late game is gonna be OP as hell!!!!!! How do you fight against infestor/broodlord/viper/swarm host/ultra? They probably couldn't get the gas for it but seems like it will be even harder to deal with. I think there are too many units at the moment. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 09 2012 06:29 FakeDeath wrote: The Oracle mechanic for harassing is terrible. Basically, its GO IN and plant entomb and GO OUT. How is that even called harassing? You dun need much micro or skill to do it. They should make it require at least some micro like the banshee or mutalisk harass. 22 range tempest won't make it into the game.That is definitely OP. Could see viper abduct range being nerfed. Binding cloud is fine if it only works on bio. So ultralisk burrow charge do damage upon unburrowing?Sick. How does the Oracle not require micro? Especially if you're managing more than one throughout the entire game. Great players will be able to use them while doing everything else and bad players won't be able to use them well. | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:58 Garmer wrote: i don't like, how they are destroying siege tank, now they are basically useless in every mu. Hope they buff it :/ | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Then a TvP mech battle report! Then a PvZ where the toss goes air! Then.... MORE AGAIN! I feel like a child looking into a candy shop. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 09 2012 06:29 Infernal_dream wrote: LET THE THEORY CRAFTING BEGIN. Seriously even in the fuckin video it says shit isn't balanced yet everyone is already crying about how broken certain things are? It's just to show that they are indeed working on the game. Don't start streaming tears until at least beta. But that is what we do, cry about units we have not used, are not final and have no way of knowing how they work. What would TL do if we were not complaining about things we could not even hope to fully understand? | ||
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skiersteve
United Kingdom268 Posts
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
Terran looks decent, certainly mech will be a viable tactic vs toss. OMG the return of spider mines... that also hit air. FML. Those things gave me nightmares in BW. I wonder what they do to mineral lines. I'm sure all the Zergs are super excited, but really they shouldn't be. They got a bunch of op shit. I remember when protoss had a bunch of op shit in WOL beta. As a result the race got beat to a bloody pulp with the nerf bat. Most of it's base units, warp gates, forges, all got nerfed into the ground. Then they went back and nerfed warp gates again, and pylons. Now look where toss is, 2 base all in or turtle and hope you get your 3rd up before endless aggression hits you. I guess the new mothership will help you turtle even more. I really dislike the swarm host. The last thing zerg needs is more infinite free units. Late game is such a bitch vs Broodlord, infestor. This is going to be silly. But it is somewhat exciting. All the match-ups are going to completely reset, hopefully. | ||
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