EPTSpades retires from Western Wolves - Page 10
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This is not the place to argue whether or not spades hacked, do that in the relevant thread please. (this is in effect page 10 onward) | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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Charon1979
Austria317 Posts
Ultimately, the decision on whether or not he was a hacker should've been left to Blizzard. When hackers are reported they review the case, and most (if not all) confirmed hackers are banned/demoted to perma-bronze. I like your view, but sadly its far from reality. I encountered a maphacker on ladder and put him on my fried list. This case was obvious. In a 20 Minute game he didnt even scout the location of my base, had his stalkers always in place when my mutas wanted to poke in and always pushed out when I took my 3rd (without seeing it, even if I put it in weird locations as his unscouted 3rd). Until his final push crushed me he hadnt even a clue where my base was. That was 2 months ago... guess what? Still playing. We had a maphacker on the clan which got kicked out because of (guess what) maphacking. Still playing. Countless bots in lowest bronze to farm pictures? Still"playing" Im far from "Blizzard does nothing!111!11!!", but they are not exactly fast or thorough with this kind of stuff. But I agree that Blizzard could be a "Judge" in this matter. If the Team says "Hold on guys we investigate the case, Spade will refrain from taking part in online tournaments until we are finished investigating. We also emailed Blizzard to investigate his account/replays and will be happy to tell the community of their findings." Problem solved. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:27 Geo.Rion wrote: Btw guys, I just want to put this out there, around the beta, there was a qualifier for the Hungarian national lineup, and i won the finals 3-0, got accused of maphacking. I said, it's complete bullshit, mods looked at the replays, there was no real evidence, case solved, the guy who accuse me after losing the finals disappeared. Compare that to the recent situation. Spade came out and said u can believe whatever u want, and 1 day later he "retires" because his reputation has been dmged. There is no dmg done by an unproven accusation, i went on the be part of the national lineup and win a national LAN at Budapest later on. So I hope everyone gets why i say, he's guilty for sure, 100%, and everyone who still defends him is stupid Cry about whichunts when people are punished severly for minor offences, not when a hacker gets exposed. GJ to whoever started it You're a nobody, obviously no-one's going to care whether you hack or don't. | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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sPitcraZy
United States24 Posts
2. Investigation of hacks with BIAS perspectives trying to find "conclusive" evidence with 90% assumptions (REAL SMART...) 3. I feel like there are so many people that lack any authority in their real lives, and finally get that opportunity online and they abuse it. 4. Does this mean a non name in the scene(myself included) can end anyone's career with a simple post (GAME ON!!!!) | ||
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TenJin`Lucian
Costa Rica158 Posts
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Sryinex
United States40 Posts
Let's use this as a learning experience and maybe assemble some sort of group of volunteers that can review cases like this before they hit the public eye, then when and if they decide to, the evidence will be very well compiled and easy to reference for proof. | ||
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Riquiz
Netherlands402 Posts
He was accused and his career was demolished within what, a day? This shouldn't have been such a public issue unless there was some real good evidence or such. This just isn't the way; if he is hacking or not, its still not the right way. Gl Spades | ||
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Damrak
Netherlands124 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:30 plasmidghost wrote: This whole thing is fucking stupid. No one can even conclude whether or not Spades hacked, but have already made up their minds. Mob mentality will kill this community or turn it to shit like /r/starcraft. Thanks to a bunch of UNPROVED ALLEGATIONS, Spades has to quit or else his team will get a lot of hate. Fuck this. pretty much 99,999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure that he is hacking | ||
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xxjondxx
United States89 Posts
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kenwoo
United States484 Posts
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:26 Masvidal wrote: Says the 1 post guy. Even the OP had 1 post, the guy that started the whole witch hunt. I have a suspicion that this whole thing was stirred up by one or two "spades haters", and now its gone beyond the point of no return. Cheat accusations should be bannable offenses by TL from now on, UNTIL a PM to mods is given by a respected community member. Because guys like Catz and illusion are spades-haters who were doing it for the lolz? Come on... If a random guy makes a claim like that no one will actually care. But when pros start backing it up and find evidence in the replays you just have to discuss it. Hackers are a problem in pretty much every online game out there and you can't rely on Blizzard to fix everything. I really hate the fake-drama here, but this is nothing like that. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
Hope you guys are happy. This community SUCKS. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:07 toiletCAT wrote: CatZ's "evidence" was later proven to be inaccurate and invalid. Bullcrap. Don´t post wrong information like this. It was proven that the magic scan was possible. Does not mean it is a logic action to scan somwhere to then not look at it. Aside from aaall the other ridicolous moments. Like the scan on Shakuras for example. Srslywtf are you writing? This community cares! This community does not want people to use the word "nigger", this community does not want their frontmen to act like 12 year old kids. This community does not allow hacking. I love this community and I am proud of it! | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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stab2010
Denmark4 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:19 Tump wrote: Guy can't get into top masters one day, gets to GM #1 and beats good Koreans like oGsVINES the next. Hacker 100%. Pretty much agree with this | ||
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LucidityDark
United Kingdom139 Posts
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
I heard they've already prepared the weapon. It is, you know, an axe. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:34 crocodile wrote: First Naniwa, then Orb, then Destiny, now Spades. Hope you guys are happy. This community SUCKS. WHAT ?? are you dumb or something? Maby you wanna now all major tournaments invite Spades ... omg | ||
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:32 sPitcraZy wrote: 4. Does this mean a non name in the scene(myself included) can end anyone's career with a simple post (GAME ON!!!!) If that person maphacked in a showmatch and you have overwhelming evidence in support of that accusation, then yes. Don't see what's so hard to understand about this. | ||
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