On June 02 2012 00:02 figq wrote: TheGDStudio is not featured yet? <insert random Semmler comment about the chat>
yes its a shame.. , they are fantastic ...<3 Same as kungen stream ( if someone dont know him , just google him ) , but i dont know that he knows abouth TL , he quit WoW and now focus on D3 , maby its time to bring him to TL :D
@edit haha , he play now with athene , 15k viewers ..Link for interested people + Show Spoiler +
On June 02 2012 04:20 ErAsc2 wrote: Meh, sort of pointless to just count after average viewer. Whenever you put on your stream while it isn't prime-time, you're actually losing placements in this list which doesn't make much sense.
There's also an alternative version which sorts by average viewers*streaming hours. I'm not sure which is the best yet, though having Hui as #1 seems.. odd.
is there away to see how big of a share a player has on average and as peak of the overall sc2 streamers? An example would be if stephano streams that he might reach 20% of all sc2 streamers as a peak figure.
Unfortunately I think different timezones hurts the numbers a lot. DRG would have so many more viewers if he wasn't streaming early morning EST or whatever. Regardless, really cool to see.
On June 02 2012 04:20 ErAsc2 wrote: Meh, sort of pointless to just count after average viewer. Whenever you put on your stream while it isn't prime-time, you're actually losing placements in this list which doesn't make much sense.
There's also an alternative version which sorts by average viewers*streaming hours. I'm not sure which is the best yet, though having Hui as #1 seems.. odd.
Both are extremely flawed. That one would only favour people who streams a lot. I think the best list would be something like, take the average viewer-number of the streamer's top 10 viewer hours of the month or something like that. Don't think that would be possible, but for now it's either punishing streamers whenever they stream off-primetime-hours or punishing streamers who don't stream regularly even tho their streams are extremely popular.
On June 02 2012 04:20 ErAsc2 wrote: Meh, sort of pointless to just count after average viewer. Whenever you put on your stream while it isn't prime-time, you're actually losing placements in this list which doesn't make much sense.
There's also an alternative version which sorts by average viewers*streaming hours. I'm not sure which is the best yet, though having Hui as #1 seems.. odd.
Both are extremely flawed. That one would only favour people who streams a lot. I think the best list would be something like, take the average viewer-number of the streamer's top 10 viewer hours of the month or something like that. Don't think that would be possible, but for now it's either punishing streamers whenever they stream off-primetime-hours or punishing streamers who don't stream regularly even tho their streams are extremely popular.
That is quite possible, actually, though my current guess is that it would barely make a difference compared to the current version. I'll probably try that out tomorrow and see what happens. (Edit: ) Actually, I think it would be more akin to sorting the table by peak viewership, and I'm not sure that's fairer, either. Why should someone who has at times a lot of viewers and at times quite few be higher ranked than someone who consistently has average viewer numbers?
I just created a ranking based on viewers*hours, just out of curiosity. The previous one I provided only included the players already in the original top 50. This one includes all streamers. And the results are pretty interesting. Look for yourself. The top 15 or so streamers are as expected, but then loads of new (and at times quite unknown) names appear. And you're right, it obviously heavily favors those that stream a lot. Having someone like gaulzi above NesTea just feels so wrong.
On June 02 2012 04:38 blade55555 wrote: lol kind of funny how idra/stephano have 6k+ each and then next highest after them is 3k
A lot of that is also because they have a very low stream hour count. Every minute that you're streaming at 'weird' times hurts your average quite a lot.
On June 02 2012 05:27 Pheint wrote: This is awesome, and shows definitevly why the starcraft community can't have nice things. We don't even appreciate skill.
MVP is 16th, nuff said.
A good player does not necessarily make a good streamer. There are lots of things that come with having a good stream and looking at the numbers being actually good at the game doesn't make the top requirements.
Besides running a technically good stream (correct aspect ratio and that kind of stuff) the most important requirement to getting awesome viewing numbers is to just have a personality.
The guy that streams the highest level of Starcraft 2 with music tends to get less viewers (example: mvp) then the guy who plays at a lower level but uses his mic and interacts with his audience (example: destiny or dapollo). A combination of the two is very hard to find but those that do succesfully combine it tend to have a lot of viewers (example: IdrA, Grubby, WhiteRa).
I personally don't watch streams that run music, because I 'have' to run them muted (I have yet to find a streamer who streams my music of choice) and at that moment the content they provide is pretty bad. Why watch video if you can get video + audio?
I hope the viewers being down across the board (and in such high numbers) is just because May is finals time for just about everywhere and D3 being out.
Looks Slivko isfeatured now - he was promoted during may i think (?) And yep, also interesting that last table, jEcho, Spyte, Kawaii, Gaulzi, ProTech and Fitzy putting their time in!
On June 02 2012 06:38 TumNarDok wrote: Looks Slivko isfeatured now - he was promoted during may i think (?) And yep, also interesting that last table, jEcho, Spyte, Kawaii, Gaulzi, ProTech and Fitzy putting their time in!
Heh, according to my log, he was featured just a few hours ago.
Don't really get the ranking at all, should it be a much better way to determain it? I mean if you actually stream for 100h you should be ranked highter than a guy thats only on 10h. Hours streamed * top viewers / avg viewers ?
As if you stream for 100h you surly are going to catch a lot more people than a guy thats only streaming 2h. I don't mean that as in peak but as in unique viewers for each day.
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, they are fantastic ...<3
) , but i dont know that he knows abouth TL , he quit WoW and now focus on D3 , maby its time to bring him to TL :D
