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][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
June 02 2012 03:12 GMT
#121
MKP getting a lot of viewers watching him mostly browsing the internet and playing replays :D

Huge shout-outs to Empire Kas and TSL Polt for helping us poor terrans, putting down a lot of streaming hours and showing us amazing games
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
YouMake
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
June 02 2012 03:28 GMT
#122
On June 02 2012 02:39 iNcontroL wrote:
yeah, go incontrol!


i wanna hug you for saying this.. lol
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but all out of bubble gum! - Duke Nukem!
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 08:20:14
June 02 2012 08:17 GMT
#123
On June 02 2012 02:04 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 01:30 Zealo wrote:
i'd like to see a top 50 list arranged by average viewers multiplied by hours streamed please ♥

Here you go!

I kept the original ranks since that makes it easier to compare (also, I'm lazy). I'm not exactly surprised by #1, but the rest does look pretty interesting.

Also note that I use more accurate numbers for the viewers*hours column, specifically non-rounded average viewers numbers.

thank you!

although i was looking for the top 50 viewers*hours rather than just the top 50 average viewers rearranged (as i assumed you had all that data still) the difference probably only affects the bottom half of the list

looking forward too seeing this every month!

also, i've never heard of hui... how is he not featured if he streams that often with that many viewers?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 02 2012 10:41 GMT
#124
On June 02 2012 17:17 Zealo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 02:04 Conti wrote:
On June 02 2012 01:30 Zealo wrote:
i'd like to see a top 50 list arranged by average viewers multiplied by hours streamed please ♥

Here you go!

I kept the original ranks since that makes it easier to compare (also, I'm lazy). I'm not exactly surprised by #1, but the rest does look pretty interesting.

Also note that I use more accurate numbers for the viewers*hours column, specifically non-rounded average viewers numbers.

thank you!

although i was looking for the top 50 viewers*hours rather than just the top 50 average viewers rearranged (as i assumed you had all that data still) the difference probably only affects the bottom half of the list

Actually, I did that, too, though it took me a bit longer since I had to change my script accordingly. After the top 15, the changes are quite drastic, actually. As predicted, that list heavily favors lots of streaming hours over lots of viewers, with someone like gaulzi being ranked above NesTea. I wouldn't call that a fair representation of popularity, but it's an interesting list nonetheless.

also, i've never heard of hui... how is he not featured if he streams that often with that many viewers?

Hui is a Taiwanese player, and I think that's where his main audience is. My guess is that most of his viewers don't come from teamliquid but from other sites. He doesn't seem to participate in any tournaments outside of Taiwan either, as far as I know, so that's probably making him less interesting to the foreign community.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
June 02 2012 11:03 GMT
#125
This thread is awesome Keep up the good work, hopefully I can manage to get in the top50 next month :D it will be tough!
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#126
On June 02 2012 02:39 iNcontroL wrote:
yeah, go incontrol!


You're such a nice dude

On topic : good job Conti, keep on the good work !
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#127
On June 02 2012 20:03 desRow wrote:
This thread is awesome Keep up the good work, hopefully I can manage to get in the top50 next month :D it will be tough!


Do you plane to stream a lot ? I enjoy your stream a lot, and you're show with ToD even more.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
MigzR
Profile Joined October 2011
Portugal89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 11:37:16
June 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#128
I wonder if this ranking is fair.. Are we counting effort and streaming on a daily basis for a stable number of viewers or just the other case which is stream 5 times a month, get 10k viewers? Makes me wonder who actually diserves to be on top of the ranking
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 02 2012 11:36 GMT
#129
On June 02 2012 20:03 desRow wrote:
This thread is awesome Keep up the good work, hopefully I can manage to get in the top50 next month :D it will be tough!

You need about 135 more viewers on average to make the list (assuming overall numbers stay the same). You can do it!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 02 2012 11:46 GMT
#130
On June 02 2012 08:33 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 07:00 MetalPanda wrote:
On June 02 2012 06:55 SniXSniPe wrote:
It's sad that players like MVP and NesTea are not at the top of the list :<


People don't watch streamers necessarily for the same reasons as you do. Most people are just content watching entertaining streams, by streamers who interact and speak the same language as them. People like players they can relate to, too. So being a multiple GSL champion doesn't mean that much to a lot of foreigners if they can't interact with fans.


Actually for MVP's case, people wanted to see him play 1v1, but instead he played 4v4 with the viewers instead, hence why his viewer count is not as high.


Yeah I think so as well. He is being nice and giving fans the opportunity to play with him and stuff, but I'd rather watch him crush Korean GMs
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
June 02 2012 12:07 GMT
#131
On June 02 2012 05:15 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 04:53 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 02 2012 04:26 Conti wrote:
On June 02 2012 04:20 ErAsc2 wrote:
Meh, sort of pointless to just count after average viewer. Whenever you put on your stream while it isn't prime-time, you're actually losing placements in this list which doesn't make much sense.

There's also an alternative version which sorts by average viewers*streaming hours. I'm not sure which is the best yet, though having Hui as #1 seems.. odd.

Both are extremely flawed. That one would only favour people who streams a lot. I think the best list would be something like, take the average viewer-number of the streamer's top 10 viewer hours of the month or something like that. Don't think that would be possible, but for now it's either punishing streamers whenever they stream off-primetime-hours or punishing streamers who don't stream regularly even tho their streams are extremely popular.

That is quite possible, actually, though my current guess is that it would barely make a difference compared to the current version. I'll probably try that out tomorrow and see what happens. (Edit: ) Actually, I think it would be more akin to sorting the table by peak viewership, and I'm not sure that's fairer, either. Why should someone who has at times a lot of viewers and at times quite few be higher ranked than someone who consistently has average viewer numbers?

I just created a ranking based on viewers*hours, just out of curiosity. The previous one I provided only included the players already in the original top 50. This one includes all streamers. And the results are pretty interesting. Look for yourself. The top 15 or so streamers are as expected, but then loads of new (and at times quite unknown) names appear. And you're right, it obviously heavily favors those that stream a lot. Having someone like gaulzi above NesTea just feels so wrong.


I like this one :D you should put it in the OP next month if you don't take it as your primary. Thanks again for all the work its quite fascinating ^^
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Future_sc
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States783 Posts
June 02 2012 12:12 GMT
#132
Wow great thread, keep up the good work!
Twitter @Future_sc Twitch.tv/Future_sc
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 12:17:30
June 02 2012 12:16 GMT
#133
oops, found him now lol. (thought 1 player was missing)

Nice thread btw. love statistics.
Smapz
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway405 Posts
June 02 2012 12:25 GMT
#134
How come Destiny is #4 with much lower avg. viewer, peak and hours than lots of others?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
June 03 2012 00:04 GMT
#135
I didn't realise ForGG wasn't with a team? I often go onto his stream and he seems quite confident and a skilled player, the games i've watched, granted just ladder, he wins a very large majority of them. The variety in stream viewers is pretty strange, a few thousand less on some to only a few hundred more on others. All different races + countries too.
zEnVy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
June 03 2012 00:26 GMT
#136
Naturally as more top level players stream, the competition for viewers will get more intense, which will mean less viewers per individual streamer but not a decrease in total actual viewership.

fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 00:47:01
June 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#137
On June 02 2012 10:18 Jell wrote:
how can someone as hated as Destiny get so many viewers?


There are people who hate Destiny?

On June 02 2012 06:59 speknek wrote:
it's very sad to see some of the players above mk,mvp,nestea imo, but okay


Most of the Korean streams are just them playing, no webcam, no interaction, and blasting KPop. They can easily get tons of viewers if they realized what viewers wanted.

On June 02 2012 21:25 Smapz wrote:
How come Destiny is #4 with much lower avg. viewer, peak and hours than lots of others?


Because he has the 4th largest avg viewer count?
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
June 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#138
The amount of hours White-Ra streams is just incredible, what a man.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
June 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#139
On June 02 2012 12:01 Tayar wrote:
more people should watch axslav, dude is fucking jesus christ reincarnate.


I agree, and im glad he has at least broken top 50 man gives free coaching sessions.

But the only reason i can guess why Koreans aren't the top 10 is because they aren't as entertaining when it comes to interaction with the chat, and they stream at odd hours as compared to the rest of the world.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 03 2012 02:06 GMT
#140
Wouldn't a better ranking would be: Avg viewers/hours streamed?

Anyways its not like it matters much. Very interesting. One thing I think would help SC2 streamers get more viewers would be more consistency with the time they are playing everyday. Some streamers it seems you have to be lucky to catch them streaming.

I know that sometimes they need to keep their builds private and stuff, but I really do feel some streamers should try to be more consistent of the hours they stream
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
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