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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
February 23 2013 17:48 GMT
#5001
On February 19 2013 12:19 Iksf wrote:
a barcode, currently rank 5 div thor iota
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3439515/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/

EU server
Master league
Perfect injects. Literally not a second of inject downtime, queens not selected when injecting

http://www.sc2replays.eu/show-replay-30131-0-iksf_z_-vs-iiiiiiiiiiii_z.html


Indeed those injects are incredible.

http://ggtracker.com/matches/1794170

I've never seen an inject timing score so high. 92% is indeed the theoretical maximum unless you get more than one queen per hatch.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel322 Posts
February 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#5002
On February 24 2013 02:24 iQuitDreamZ wrote:
omg i am new on tl sry for that :D maybe you can hack on stream i dont really know how you should but okay but it would be obvious if i stream and then do a map hack or smth wouldnt it?

Here's a fun fact, this guy is in the same clan with the hacker previously known as Protostitute (now barcode).
This is their sc2ranks page: http://sc2ranks.com/c/13665/iquit-gaming/
Notice one guy with 79 wins, 17 losses, and another one with 120 wins, 30 losses. Neither of which are the Protostitute account.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 16:39:25
February 24 2013 14:46 GMT
#5003
Barcode player i just met today on EU server, master league

here is the replay => http://drop.sc/306865

I go for a standard rax and a proxy rax on cloud kingdom.
He doesn't scout, goes 1 rax into gaz, when i put down my second rax in proxy he cancels gaz immediatly. (2.16)
He then proceeds to throw down a blind bunker. (2.56)
I scout it, pull all scv's as i am all in, he then (with no scouting information AT ALL) closes the wall and pulls scv's to repair bunker. (4.20)

The whole game he only saw my scv come scout from my proxy rax (and i sent it from an angle he couldn't even know i was proxying).


I do not know how to get a link to his battlenet URL though as i do not have SC2gears, found this though : http://www.starcraft-tornei.com/ranks/?s=div/351501/division-braxis-alpha
he's the protoss with 1350 points right now (numbler 1 of division)

edit : thanks to dsjoerg
here is his battlenet URL : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
February 24 2013 16:15 GMT
#5004
On February 24 2013 23:46 Rachnar wrote:
I do not know how to get a link to his battlenet URL though as i do not have SC2gears, found this though : http://www.starcraft-tornei.com/ranks/?s=div/351501/division-braxis-alpha
he's the protoss with 1350 points right now (numbler 1 of division)


Another way to get his battlenet URL is upload the replay to ggtracker.

http://ggtracker.com/matches/1796148

Then click on his name to get his profile page:

http://ggtracker.com/players/541521

Then click the BNET link under his name:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 24 2013 16:24 GMT
#5005
On February 19 2013 07:46 WtR wrote:
Fairly certain "Mekar" is hacking on EU at high masters level. I beat him because clearly he isn't very good but there was a lot of suspicious activity during the game. Will post the replay shortly.


funny from the mouth of a maphacker.

Mekar is around forever on the high master / low GM mmr in europe, faced him several times, no suspicious activities anywhere.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
February 25 2013 12:47 GMT
#5006
Hacker name: Lemine
League: Master NA
http://drop.sc/307073

Very very likely this guy is maphacking
He 6 pools in zvz, sends his overlord to the side of the map for no reason.
I'm 10 pooling him, 8 lings into expo.
He then never attacks with the 6 pool, builds 3 drones, then spine and gas, builds lings exactly in time to meet my incoming lings.
He never moves the camera except for placing the ovi at the side.
He 6 pools or does funky builds in all his previous games.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 25 2013 13:56 GMT
#5007
On February 24 2013 02:32 Dvgt wrote:
I've checked the whole replay but he never looks at my base through the fog, so I'm not really sure how he knows, but there is no way you randomly build 7 spores, without knowing a Spire is halfway done.


There are production tab hacks. So there would be no need to look at your base if he's using one.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
TheKhyira
Profile Joined May 2012
115 Posts
February 25 2013 14:30 GMT
#5008
On February 19 2013 07:46 WtR wrote:
Fairly certain "Mekar" is hacking on EU at high masters level. I beat him because clearly he isn't very good but there was a lot of suspicious activity during the game. Will post the replay shortly.


I've played Mekar a fair bit in both tournaments and on ladder and while we don't talk that much I've never had any reason to suspect any kind of cheating.

You on the other hand....
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Profile Joined February 2013
United States20 Posts
February 26 2013 11:27 GMT
#5009
http://drop.sc/307194

http://drop.sc/307195

Here is another High masters league blatant hacker. I encountered him and early pooled him the second game to check if he was hacking sure enough he was.
FUCK YOU, Starcraft isnt dead cause I'm playing it! :)
Nogard
Profile Joined July 2011
Italy40 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 12:23:21
February 26 2013 12:01 GMT
#5010
Hacker name: AMG
League: Master NA

http://drop.sc/307198

He asks me "why 10 gate?" and then he goes 2 gate mass sentries without scout and any kind of tech
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
February 26 2013 12:28 GMT
#5011
On February 26 2013 20:27 Rhodesian Ridgeback wrote:
http://drop.sc/307194

http://drop.sc/307195

Here is another High masters league blatant hacker. I encountered him and early pooled him the second game to check if he was hacking sure enough he was.


First link is a very suspicious opening (in base forge and cannon in mineral line vs early pool), but given you're accusing him of map hacking and it's clear you've played before it's impossible to say whether that was metagaming or not. 8:30 slight move out to attack lings is supicious, though not conclusive. Further in game accusations appear without merit. Impossible to confirm with just this replay.

Second link contains accusation of hard counter to muta by blind phoenix. Blind muta from you was in response to AMG already committing to 2 stargate phoenix, with the second stargate almost finished building and some phoenix already out when your spire is even placed. Commits to air play before you've even started your lair and confirms it before you've even taken the gas that'd suggest it. There's no way this was a hack unless he can see in to the future.

No suspicious map peaks on either and only the one odd interception. Certainly the first link contains some strange play but it's not conclusive, but there's absolutely no evidence for the second.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 26 2013 12:58 GMT
#5012
Hacker name: AMG
League: Master NA

http://drop.sc/307204

Another replay with AMG. First he accused me of maphack, then he admittet to maphacking in chat. Looked through replay quickly and seems likely, many tells that he would be hacking.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 26 2013 13:23 GMT
#5013
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4056710/1/DangerZone/


NA server
master league
Danzerzone
Looked at my main thru fog 2-3 times and before scouting with an ovie took his gases at third it was fishy not sure if 100% maphack no auto inject as well

http://ggtracker.com/matches/1799511
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
afiLiazn
Profile Joined February 2012
United States47 Posts
February 26 2013 14:39 GMT
#5014
Just played a suspicious game where protoss did 0 scouting and never moved his observer away from his army. He had zero vision of the map up until he made DTs and moved them to my base in a FOUR player map. He also blindly tried to intercept my push in the fog of war without any vision.


Hacker name: AMG
Server: NA
League: masters
Description: blatant maphacking
Replay: http://drop.sc/307213
Rank: 1, WLR 56-18
Division: Talematros Hawk

9:30 - he looks directly at my army moving out, not even at the watch tower or anything.
9:50 - he moves out to intercept my army without any obs or any vision
10:20 - warps a DT and rallies directly into my base without knowing where it is as he never scouted
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 26 2013 14:51 GMT
#5015
Hacker name: AMG
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description: "Subtle" maphacking
Replay: http://drop.sc/307215

Played AMG again, and once again he's maphacking. Going gateway first as a response to my hatch first is a tell, but the first "evidence" is when he moves his stalker to intercept my scouting overlord at 7 minutes.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
February 27 2013 10:43 GMT
#5016
On February 26 2013 23:51 DJHelium wrote:
Hacker name: AMG
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description: "Subtle" maphacking
Replay: http://drop.sc/307215

Played AMG again, and once again he's maphacking. Going gateway first as a response to my hatch first is a tell, but the first "evidence" is when he moves his stalker to intercept my scouting overlord at 7 minutes.


Oh there's a lot of things that indicate he's a maphacker:
a. that inbase pylon into nexus first and gateway soon after is so dangerous unless you go for hatch first.
b. goes for very unsafe wall that isn't even a wall on both ends just to hide the cybercore, with no scouting at all.
c. intercepts the overlord, moves the stalker at the exact second the ovi begins to move out of his vision and then when he realizes it's going to the main moves the stalker and sentry to main, again, without seeing the ovi moving at all.
d. walks to your mid 4th base location with the immo all in, your army is there to meet him in a huge arc,, goes back without seeing it to the bottom 4th.
e. blaming you for MH and acting like a moron, quite a big tell.
splinter2
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom2 Posts
February 28 2013 01:29 GMT
#5017
Name:Rasbid
Server:EU
League: Master
Description:

1)hatch first vs gateway opening
2)@6:44 6 additional spines
3)@6:48 looks into fog of war where my army is present
4)@7:00 rallies all queens to natural
5)@7:13 makes first 4 lings
6)@8:13 First vision of my base location!! Which I granted him by making an assimilator
7) spire tech vs immortal tech.

http://drop.sc/307414
'mind games'
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 01:56:22
February 28 2013 01:54 GMT
#5018
On February 26 2013 21:58 DJHelium wrote:
Hacker name: AMG
League: Master NA

http://drop.sc/307204

Another replay with AMG. First he accused me of maphack, then he admittet to maphacking in chat. Looked through replay quickly and seems likely, many tells that he would be hacking.


Chat Log in spoiler tags. AMG does not admit to hacking in the chat. He only offers to give a free win next time.

Review of replay or specific notes needed.

+ Show Spoiler +

00:00:04 - AMG to ALL: hi faggot

00:00:14 - DJHelium to ALL: hi
00:00:16 - DJHelium to ALL: gl hf gg

00:00:20 - AMG to ALL: nice to see you at na

00:00:32 - DJHelium to ALL: ty

00:00:44 - AMG to ALL: gm here?

00:00:51 - DJHelium to ALL: not yet

00:08:11 - AMG to ALL: nice mh

00:08:16 - DJHelium to ALL: ?

00:19:23 - AMG to ALL: n ice hacker
00:19:24 - AMG to ALL: report
00:19:25 - DJHelium to ALL: ??
00:19:29 - DJHelium to ALL: why do you think
00:19:31 - DJHelium to ALL: i would hack
00:19:33 - AMG to ALL: aahahahaha

00:19:48 - DJHelium to ALL:

00:20:15 - AMG to ALL: again

00:23:30 - AMG to ALL: faggot
00:23:32 - AMG to ALL: why you so
00:23:33 - AMG to ALL: ahcker?

00:23:41 - AMG to ALL: tell mw
00:23:43 - AMG to ALL: why?:D

00:23:52 - AMG to ALL: i can give you free win enxt time
00:23:56 - AMG to ALL: if you want to win
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
February 28 2013 08:44 GMT
#5019
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/762228/2/aBuSe/achievements/

This sounds fishy... 6300 games in less than 14 days? That's on average one game every 3 minutes, assuming he never sleeps. And still in bronze too? How is this possible?
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#5020
On February 24 2013 02:48 dsjoerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 12:19 Iksf wrote:
a barcode, currently rank 5 div thor iota
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3439515/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/

EU server
Master league
Perfect injects. Literally not a second of inject downtime, queens not selected when injecting

http://www.sc2replays.eu/show-replay-30131-0-iksf_z_-vs-iiiiiiiiiiii_z.html


Indeed those injects are incredible.

http://ggtracker.com/matches/1794170

I've never seen an inject timing score so high. 92% is indeed the theoretical maximum unless you get more than one queen per hatch.


Funny how at 9:20 he injects without selecting the queen^^
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