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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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Hacker name: WLHgeorge
Server: EU
League: master, 719 points, 111 wins / 102 losses
Description:
Zezuane(z, bot right) vs WLHgeorge(p, top right) @ shakuras plateu
@7:58 two impossible selections on nexuses and probe production.
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@10:51 chronoboost hack, 3 chronos clicked on and 4 on minimap and stalker reselection in one frame.
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@14:16 blink hack, blinking stalkers individually and reselection in one frame.
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HpplVgn (p, bot right) vs (p, bot left) WLHgeorge @ entombed valley
@5:25 autoprobe, impossible selection (nexus not in vision), probe queue and reselection of stalker in one frame.
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@7:48 autochrono, 4 chrono boosts on warpgate through minimap in one frame, followed by an impossible selection of 4 warpgates not in his vision.
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@11:56 impossible selection of nexus, autoprobe and reselection in one frame.
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edit: since he decided to post his stream as proof, i just wanted to add that the replay is littered with impossible selections and autoprobe production. not even mentioning the blind counter movement and blind guessing of spawns. also adding a second rep to have more girth, since i reported his stream and sent a mail to his team as well.
this is shown when you go under the name WLHGeorge you can also go under the name RtStrauma on hots beta hacker & find several replays & screenshots, where its alot of proof.
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Hi,
I am Yogmark, owner and manager of Team Xperience.
We are sad to hear that a who got dropped by us due to multiple instances of offensive behavior former member named Poseidon had to post such a thread about us. But i am willing to tell you the thurht of what happened to clear our name and make his actions dig in the ground more rapidly.
Poseidon, the threadmaker, has been dropped by us for offensive behaviour. The comments you see me making to him was when he was wishing someone had cancer repeatly. That is not acceptable and got evryone, including me, really mad.
About George, the guy named as hacker, We are of knowledge that he has got a history of cheating in the game. But you need to know that George is not a player of our team and will not be a player of our team again even though he clarify´s he isn´t cheating anymore. George is a coach for our players. George will not play any online tournaments in the name of himself nor the team.
All our info can be found here:"
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_Xperience
https://twitter.com/Team_Xperience
https://twitter.com/Yogmark
Thanks for your understanding,
With best regards,
Yogmark
~ Owner and manager of Team Xperience.
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On February 18 2013 08:41 yogmark wrote:Hi, I am Yogmark, owner and manager of Team Xperience. We are sad to hear that a who got dropped by us due to multiple instances of offensive behavior former member named Poseidon had to post such a thread about us. But i am willing to tell you the thurht of what happened to clear our name and make his actions dig in the ground more rapidly. Poseidon, the threadmaker, has been dropped by us for offensive behaviour. The comments you see me making to him was when he was wishing someone had cancer repeatly. That is not acceptable and got evryone, including me, really mad. About George, the guy named as hacker, We are of knowledge that he has got a history of cheating in the game. But you need to know that George is not a player of our team and will not be a player of our team again even though he clarify´s he isn´t cheating anymore. George is a coach for our players. George will not play any online tournaments in the name of himself nor the team. All our info can be found here:" http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_Xperiencehttps://twitter.com/Team_Xperiencehttps://twitter.com/YogmarkThanks for your understanding, With best regards, Yogmark ~ Owner and manager of Team Xperience.
About George, the guy named as hacker, We are of knowledge that he has got a history of cheating in the game. But you need to know that George is not a player of our team and will not be a player of our team again even though he clarify´s he isn´t cheating anymore. George is a coach for our players.
Nice to use a hacker as a coach, respect for your team is gone at least for me.
Also I got this same crap on my mail box from this guy.
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On February 18 2013 08:40 xpPoseidon wrote:
Hacker name: WLHgeorge
Server: EU
League: master, 719 points, 111 wins / 102 losses
Description:
Zezuane(z, bot right) vs WLHgeorge(p, top right) @ shakuras plateu
@7:58 two impossible selections on nexuses and probe production.
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@10:51 chronoboost hack, 3 chronos clicked on and 4 on minimap and stalker reselection in one frame.
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@14:16 blink hack, blinking stalkers individually and reselection in one frame.
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HpplVgn (p, bot right) vs (p, bot left) WLHgeorge @ entombed valley
@5:25 autoprobe, impossible selection (nexus not in vision), probe queue and reselection of stalker in one frame.
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@7:48 autochrono, 4 chrono boosts on warpgate through minimap in one frame, followed by an impossible selection of 4 warpgates not in his vision.
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@11:56 impossible selection of nexus, autoprobe and reselection in one frame.
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edit: since he decided to post his stream as proof, i just wanted to add that the replay is littered with impossible selections and autoprobe production. not even mentioning the blind counter movement and blind guessing of spawns. also adding a second rep to have more girth, since i reported his stream and sent a mail to his team as well.
this is shown when you go under the name WLHGeorge you can also go under the name RtStrauma on hots beta hacker & find several replays & screenshots, where its alot of proof.
edit: nvm. apparently this is from the previous analysis. yes we already knew WLHGeorge / rtstrauma was a hacker. but you still need to back up your claim that he is playing for them again.
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The multiple instances of offensive behaviour appeared when leader allowing cheater into the team & don't deal with problems. Also adding lies of accusing me of offensive behaviour. To actually allow a cheater in for secound time & during that time he gets a new thread on team liquid about cheating on hots, yet also during his secound time invited back to the team. You can atleast find 1 tournament where he signs up as Felicis or even more tournaments. He is also helping the Team Xperience member in several ways of playing without scouting & is giving other people information about hacking in HoTs where u can see the screenshots where he tell about 17 different ways of hacking. Coaching or player doesn't change the problem that he have been cheating multiple time in the team & the team leader allows it. The leader & the player shud be removed for this.
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On February 18 2013 08:48 xpPoseidon wrote:
The multiple instances of offensive behaviour appeared when leader allowing cheater into the team & don't deal with problems. Also adding lies of accusing me of offensive behaviour. To actually allow a cheater in for secound time & during that time he gets a new thread on team liquid about cheating on hots, yet also during his secound time invited back to the team. You can atleast find 1 tournament where he signs up as Felicis or even more tournaments. He is also helping the Team Xperience member in several ways of playing without scouting & is giving other people information about hacking in HoTs where u can see the screenshots where he tell about 17 different ways of hacking. Coaching or player doesn't change the problem that he have been cheating multiple time in the team & the team leader allows it. The leader & the player shud be removed for this.
no, you need to find a tournament where he signs up as felicis and provide replays. i can't actually just go off names posted in this thread. that would be too much work for me.
this thread is not for arguing with your previous team, this thread is for submitting replays of hackers. please stick to that so it doesn't get derailed.
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On February 18 2013 08:41 yogmark wrote:
About George, the guy named as hacker, We are of knowledge that he has got a history of cheating in the game. But you need to know that George is not a player of our team and will not be a player of our team again even though he clarify´s he isn´t cheating anymore. George is a coach for our players. George will not play any online tournaments in the name of himself nor the team.
well, this sounds really fucking sketchy, and i don't think you can expect people to take your team seriously.
saying that he says he isn't cheating anymore, as if that is a plausible statement, shows the level of bullshit you are bringing to the table.
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Hi,
I clarify that i don't trust him at all whatever he says or does. He is not allowed to play in the name of the team in any tourny or game alive.
Basicly his doings with the team is 0.0001%. All there is to it is him talking to the members once in a while.
Also it already has been prooved that he is a hacker so why in the hell would i let him play for our team.
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On February 18 2013 09:11 yogmark wrote:
Hi,
I clarify that i don't trust him at all whatever he says or does. He is not allowed to play in the name of the team in any tourny or game alive.
Basicly his doings with the team is 0.0001%. All there is to it is him talking to the members once in a while.
Also it already has been prooved that he is a hacker so why in the hell would i let him play for our team.
Also it already has been prooved that he is a hacker so why in the hell would i let him play for our team.
Why in the hell would you have anything to do with a proven hacker? Really doesn't bring a positive image to your team.
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Well basicly i have nothing to do with him. But i can't say that it is not allowed for my members to talk him. Also the Liquidpedia is waiting on a confirm to remove him as stated "coach" as sadly i don't have the rights to do that..
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why was he put up as coach in the first place?
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Because i watched him giving usefull legit tips to the players multiple times. But indeed that should not be an excuse.
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The reason George got invited to the team again, was beacuse Yogmark don't belive he cheats & i got 9 screenshots of the day where the team argue about if he shud get joined, even the closest persons to george doesn't belive its good to invite him back then at end: [25.01.2013 20:55:31] Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam: guys
[25.01.2013 20:55:40] Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam: im giving George benfit of the doubt
[25.01.2013 20:55:46] Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam: adding him to skype call
[25.01.2013 20:56:02] *** Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam la til george randall ***
For a secound chance & the date is 25.01.2013 im going to get the screenshots uploaded, and a person who gets removed for cheating in the first place, shud never ever gotten back into the team. He ruins the reputation of the entire team & this team leader Mark Meijdam isn't capable of beeing a leader when he allows people who cheated back & as a coach. i got the screenshot of liquidpedia where he stands as a coach aswell, even after Mark removed it to hide evidence of this person. Also i've contacted the sponsors so they will also get to see this kind of information, about what their sponsoring. With this good evidence of how Mark Meijdam is as leader: allowing cheaters into the team & also been playing clanwars for the team & 1 tournament, then Mark Meijdam & George Randall should be removed from this team. So the sponsors will consider sponsoring this team & not forfeit it.
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also been playing clanwars for the team & 1 tournament
this is the part that is really BAD, and this is the part you need to find proof to backup.
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On February 18 2013 10:11 nunez wrote:this is the part that is really BAD, and this is the part you need to find proof to backup.
He has been playing in a clanwar before we knew he was cheating. He got kicked and we gave the other team the win when it got proven he hacked.
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+ it got proven he is a cheater, he is no longer part of the team and has not played in a single clanwar after it got proven he hacked. Doesn't this end the discussion for this topic?
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where did all this drama come from? I thought drama was for reddit, this thread is for hacker plays / analysis proof is in the tactile replay. once proven move on we don't need to hear about why his dog was sick or what team he is or isn't coaching, if he hack or does not hack, water under the bridge.
Please do not post anything further on the topic, quite derailing
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EsteeLauder got added to EU's hacker list, he was also hacking on NA, can you add him there too? evidence was posted by me and others earlier on this thread. Thank you.
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On February 18 2013 10:20 yogmark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 10:11 nunez wrote:also been playing clanwars for the team & 1 tournament this is the part that is really BAD, and this is the part you need to find proof to backup. He has been playing in a clanwar before we knew he was cheating. He got kicked and we gave the other team the win when it got proven he hacked.
oh ok, if it is those games he was referring to, that is the ones before he was confirmed that should be the end of it yes.
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I don't understand why the hell should we care about this fictional team.
This thread is for confirming hackers, not for you to argue about how to properly manage a team nobody even knows.
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