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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Zennith
United States795 Posts
On February 17 2013 04:55 FXOTheoRy wrote: There used to be a note that mentioned the difference, I think it should be added back to the op. Agreed. Obviously FXOTheory is not the player in question. | ||
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Eric35
United States13 Posts
Server NA League Masters Description http://drop.sc/305175 blind counters 8 pool with a forge and a cannon in his own main. this is all without scouting and before lings even enter his vision once. he proceeds to make a few zealots and expand while i expand and drone up myself. from there i think that's the only damning evidence aside from one thing(i didn't look at the replay enough to see if he was looking into the fog or doing anything else suspicious that could only be done with hacks). when i message him after the game he claims that he always opens like that on this server because of all the shitty zergs... screen shot here http://i.imgur.com/jzRwHGZ.jpg i kind of went a bit overboard but i was a bit annoyed when i came in with my zerglings to see the cannons in his main. especially annoyed when i watched the replay it's just so obvious. i didn't think to ask him what he would do if he did that and a zerg didn't go early pool but i'm sure his response would've been just as good. "i'm gm all servers"(but i don't scout and all and just happen to have really low apm and blind counter stuff) anyways the other proof is here. http://i.imgur.com/V8cRxor.jpg screen shot from his last pvz of the build he went pretty standard build vs a standard build wonder if he scouted at all that game? i don't know if that's enough proof but it seems like a fairly obvious hacker to me. | ||
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WikidSik
Canada382 Posts
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
the 'theory' in the op is justinbiebers previous alias. and that was listed sometime before november 2012. i don't think they guy you are quoting would ever read the op. i added a note regardless. @WikidSik thank you. | ||
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Plecto
Norway30 Posts
Very suspecious scouting pattern. I want Teamliquid to decide if i'm right or not. I played 3 ladder games in a row against him. I didn't raise any unnatural suspicion until game3. Compare game 1 and 3, and u will see that he "thinks" he sees my svc moving down the natural on ohana. Profile: http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/1121841/kiljardi Game1: Game1 on Ohana Game2: Game 2 on Akilon Flats Game3: Game3 on Ohana Screenshots of chat after the 3 games: Screenshot 1: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HNd3Gug.png) Screenshot 2:+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A1oCaE9.png) | ||
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mukiprime
United States3 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:30 Plecto wrote: I got some strong suspecion about a top gm on the EU server with the alias: "Kiljardi". Very suspecious scouting pattern. I want Teamliquid to decide if i'm right or not. I played 3 ladder games in a row against him. I didn't raise any unnatural suspicion until game3. Compare game 1 and 3, and u will see that he "thinks" he sees my svc moving down the natural on ohana. Profile: http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/1121841/kiljardi Game1: Game1 on Ohana Game2: Game 2 on Akilon Flats Game3: Game3 on Ohana Him scouting for a hidden barracks after you just hid your first rax while 2raxing is not very suspicious. Also your behaviour is very disgusting. He could be an up and coming player(as he is attending Assembly) but you are talking badly about him in a public forum and telling him that he has to prove he is not a hacker? He is innocent until proven guilty | ||
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Plecto
Norway30 Posts
Him scouting for a hidden barracks after you just hid your first rax while 2raxing is not very suspicious. Also your behaviour is very disgusting. He could be an up and coming player(as he is attending Assembly) but you are talking badly about him in a public forum and telling him that he has to prove he is not a hacker? He is innocent until proven guilty I am just trying to lay all cards on the table, and i wanted the opinion of others on the matter. | ||
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MaxQT
69 Posts
On February 17 2013 17:18 Plecto wrote: I am just trying to lay all cards on the table, and i wanted the opinion of others on the matter. he's talking about the behaviour ingame, not why you posted this here... | ||
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
On February 17 2013 17:18 Plecto wrote: I am just trying to lay all cards on the table, and i wanted the opinion of others on the matter. Here's what I think: G1. Standard macro game, nothing special. You leave with a gg. G2: He gets a perfect read on what you are doing and as a result your proxy gets defended easily at which point you start tilting and leave the game without gg. G3: Already being angry and suspicious you decide to hide a rax at your natural, Kiljardi obviously realizing your mental state carrying on from the previous game decides to check around a bit in a really normal pattern to find your rax. After a bit of a micro battle you ask "Are you a know hacker or something ?" and after he responds you call him shit and leave the game, I would say this is just you being angry and accusing a legit player of using hacks. | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
His scouting is extremely thorough, even in places where your units and structures aren't. I've never seen a maphacker scout every inch of his base, let a reaper into his base when he has two stalkers, make 2 observers early game for map vision, ect. I suggest you watch his vision before accusing him of maphacking and harassing him. I'd go over the huge amounts of things a hacker would never do that occurred in those games, but I'm not going to put any time into disproving he hacks if you haven't put any time into pointing out any proof. | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:54 mukiprime wrote: He could be an up and coming player(as he is attending Assembly) but you are talking badly about him in a public forum and telling him that he has to prove he is not a hacker? He is innocent until proven guilty He's been active ladder masser for at least 1,5 years, been at highmaster/lowgm mmr the whole time. There can hardly be any active EU ladderers who wouldn't have met him multiple times. It's clear that at least he hasn't cheated in the past due to massive amount of games and no claims against him. | ||
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imnestle
46 Posts
ps: it would be awesome if TL would post a big news or blog or whatever to say "look blizzard" we have something you're not paying enough attention to and its piissing alot of people off.... it worked with the Balance thing when they invited some Pros to blizzard HQ to discuss things  so why shouldnt it work with the Hack problems we have currently | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
Whether or not they use this thread at all to ban hackers is anyone's guess. | ||
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stava88
Israel31 Posts
But hey, we're talking about the same people who allow 3 pylon \ 2 rax blocking for something like 2.5 years, while admitting it's wrong and fixing it in HOTS, 2 years after all tournament maps had it fixed. | ||
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HoBb3
Sweden38 Posts
Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/ru/803179/IIIIIIIIII Server: GM rank, 52 Description: I went for a 7 pool and he goes for a 12 forge->canon without scout and when i asked "did you scout that" he said "yes", but he had no information about it what so ever. I then watched his matchhistory and he never went for that early forge in any other game. http://drop.sc/305349 | ||
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HoBb3
Sweden38 Posts
Name: IIIIIIIIIIII, aka Superbichu Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1511324/llllllllllll Server: Master, rank 1 Description: As he sends out his second scv who's about to proxy the second rax he dodges my scouting drone with the oddest turn ever at 2:05 http://drop.sc/305351 | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
On February 17 2013 22:22 Ouga wrote: He's been active ladder masser for at least 1,5 years, been at highmaster/lowgm mmr the whole time. There can hardly be any active EU ladderers who wouldn't have met him multiple times. It's clear that at least he hasn't cheated in the past due to massive amount of games and no claims against him. I've played him several times, and nothing supicious on his side, I hardly doubt he ever cheated. | ||
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xpPoseidon
Norway15 Posts
He got multiple accounts, beacuse he is coaching & got like 1000 accounts. But these accounts is those he use most, in 2013 he got invited back to Team Xperience formed by Mark Meijdam ( as Yogmark ) secound time even knowing he is cheating, he did use him in clan wars & tournaments. Now he stands under coach by name George Randall ( aka: Felicis ). Just so you all know, that this person is cheating on several accounts & is also playing in a team where the team leader know he is cheating, this we shall now allow, he deserve permbann on all accounts & he shud get removed off Team Xperience & Mark Meijdam shouldn't be allowed to be a Team leader who try to use cheaters to win tournaments. _____________________________________________________________________________________ On December 21 2012 07:43 yogmark wrote: Hi, My name is Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam. Also known as xpDutch, teamleader of team Xperience. I have been investigating one of my members name WHLGeorge. After he has been accused of maphacking i have been doing my own investigation together with the 1 shown on the page before this one. I cam to the conclussion the the evidence is too strong too prove his innocents. In responds to this i had to make the descission to kick WHLGeorge out of the team as this kind of cheating will not be allowed in Team Xperience. We strive to be fair and respectfull. I hope people will hate the player, not the team. As we had no info on him being a maphacker before these games. Thanks for all your support. with best regards, ~ Mark "Yogmark" Meijdam ~ xpDutch This is like the first time he get detected in WoL, where Mark actually removes him beacuse the accusation is pretty much to strong to prove his innocents. Then later, he gets re invited under a new name to hide his tempory known alias George the cheater. I hope that people will, read this & look it up since it's really not recommended to have a Team leader inviting cheaters back after 1 try & yet he cheats again in Hots with 17 different tie/hack and other cheats detected, if you go on his name RtStrauma on the hack thread. User was warned for this post | ||
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RiSkysc2
696 Posts
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