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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. |
Dakkon case summary so far:
+ Show Spoiler [( bush finds replay anomaly] +On January 30 2013 20:51 ( bush wrote:4:25 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Bunker (0); target: x=34.50,y=53.50in this moment (6:06 at ingame time), Dakkon right clicks a bunker that he has never seen before Is this perfectly normal? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9g0yB7b.jpg) - Another game, Dakkon x Pasidan (danny) http://drop.sc/2733229:00 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Banshee (0); target: x=79.55,y=82.37in this game, at 12:27 (according to sc2gears time conversor) Dakkon right clicks a banshee that is not in his vision three times in a row.
+ Show Spoiler [( bush analysis on Dakkon vs BeMe] +On December 06 2012 08:27 ( bush wrote:Dakkon x BeMe - http://drop.sc/281663In the exact second BeMe does a 3pylon block, Dakkon makes 6 lings and rallies them to the bottom of the ramp, knowing he is getting pylon blocked. I think this along with other evidences in this thread is a final proof he is hacker. note: dakkon is completely in the dark about the block, has a hatch constructing at his natural
+ Show Spoiler [Grimmyman123's replay analysis o…] +On February 04 2013 11:21 Grimmyman123 wrote:http://drop.sc/281665keydAllvini vs lFKlDakkoN Opening overlord scouts Cross map but does not actually verify terran location or look for anything. Ever. 4:12 Good long look through fog of war at terran main and expo 5:06 Sends lings to intercept scouting SCV with no prior vision of SCV 8:38 Blind spines at natural and main (drop en route) later cancels spines in main once drop dealt with at natural http://drop.sc/274574KSxKim vs lFKlDakkoN 14:12 Looks at Terran army and expo at 3rd through fog of war http://drop.sc/277605Scouts with overlord cross map on Entombed (opponent was actually vertical lane) 9:18 Looks at Natural Expansion http://drop.sc/2816664:17 Looks at VERY well hidden probe, bottom right of map 5:37 "Scouts" hidden probe with overlord 9:27 Looks at protoss army through fog moving to 3rd 10:00 - 10:42 Positioning and posturinging to intercept protoss army, nearly snipes an immortal lagging behind 11:29 Peeks at army outside his 3rd. 14:23 Base Race - sends lings to well hidden pylon, not revealed (opponent has a nexus) 14:55 Looks at hidden probe in main 14:58 Splits off roaches from main pack to kill above noted hidden probe http://drop.sc/2736094:49 - looks at, and attacks hidden probe at zerg 3rd with zerglings 4:59 - Probe changes location, he blindly changes his attack command for the zerglings to the new location 6:13 - moves overlord out of natural just before stalker finishes.
very detailed analysis with lot pics in portugese (with google translate it is understandable)
edit: the portugese thread really makes a good sell, need to check that the reps match the pics. i can't dl the entire WoL client atm (only enough space for one dl'ed sc2 at a time, and need to fully update hots) and look through the reps there atm, but within the week most def i will have watched them.
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On February 12 2013 13:01 IMBACoaching wrote:Here's a video I made about StellerMango. I hope you we can all forgive him for I know it was hard for him to confess.
No sympathy. Apology felt hollow, shallow and insincere. Noone wants to watch you stream StellarMango. You are a cheater. Noone wants to support cheaters who enjoy the cheating and put money in your pocket. Apology at the end practically an ad for his stream. Get lost Clown.
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Hacker name : ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/terran-big.gif) fibonacci
Server : EU
League : Master 1110points 83wins/66losses
Description :
http://drop.sc/304570
@ 5:08 Here we can see he's going to intercept my probe just after i order to build proxy pylon.
+ Show Spoiler +
@ 5:20 He's just waiting my probe and already have his camera on his units waiting for the kill.
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@ 5:55 He's going straight to the middle without even taking the xel naga tower spamming his attack move on the fog of war.
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@ 6:09 I decide to send another probe, of course he will instantly try to intercept it without seeing it.
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Funny how precise he is when he moves.
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@ 7:33 Last attempt to build a proxy pylon, he will instantly kill it
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I was so pissed off i decided to suicide my army on his bio at the end, thanks and sorry for my bad English.
(All the screenshots in higher definition : imgur.com/a/Pyq0b)
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Hacker Name: mGGDarkLeaf
Server: SEA
Rank: Grandmaster
Details: He pulls his hatchery drone when he sees two scvs about to wall him off. also he doesnt scout that i countered his baneling and muta all ins.
Replay: http://drop.sc/304573
Bnet Profile: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/17857/1/mGGDarkLeaf/
Notes: Threatened to change name
Screenshots: [img]http://i.imgur.com/3YsBDyE.png[/img]
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On February 14 2013 15:02 iCoNz.BoSS wrote:Hacker Name: mGGDarkLeaf Server: SEA Rank: Grandmaster Details: He pulls his hatchery drone when he sees two scvs about to wall him off. also he doesnt scout that i countered his baneling and muta all ins. Replay: http://drop.sc/304573Bnet Profile: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/17857/1/mGGDarkLeaf/Notes: Threatened to change name Screenshots: [img]http://i.imgur.com/3YsBDyE.png [/img]
And now we ban this user and laugh at Blizzards utter incompetence, not being able to ban one hacker for about 2 years.
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Ok this time I need help, I just played a PvT against a terran called "Sweter" ( master 750 pts, 80/67 ), and most of it looks genuine. But there's a move I cannot explain without a map hack:
![[image loading]](http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/repimgs/repimg-33-278538.jpg)
At 20:20 exactly, he stims a bunch of units at his third to go attack my hiden fourth on the opposite side of the map, without having vision of it ( except his camera goes there a few moments ago in the fog of war.. ). That move makes no sense to me at all. As I have excellent obs coverage I easily defend all of his attacks and end up winning the game convincingly, so either he's the worst map hacker ever, either he's bad but has fantastic game sense for thinking I re-expoed there after he forced a cancel of my fourth on the other side 3 minutes ago, and decided to blindly stim 9 units just in case of.. ?
Can you find other suspicious moves or should we just conclude he had luck ?
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On February 14 2013 21:48 Nyast wrote:Ok this time I need help, I just played a PvT against a terran called "Sweter" ( master 750 pts, 80/67 ), and most of it looks genuine. But there's a move I cannot explain without a map hack: At 20:20 exactly, he stims a bunch of units at his third to go attack my hiden fourth on the opposite side of the map, without having vision of it ( except his camera goes there a few moments ago in the fog of war.. ). That move makes no sense to me at all. As I have excellent obs coverage I easily defend all of his attacks and end up winning the game convincingly, so either he's the worst map hacker ever, either he's bad but has fantastic game sense for thinking I re-expoed there after he forced a cancel of my fourth on the other side 3 minutes ago, and decided to blindly stim 9 units just in case of.. ? Can you find other suspicious moves or should we just conclude he had luck ?
I find it highly unlikely that he hacks.
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Hacker name : LiquidSnute
Server : NA
League : High Master
Description :
http://drop.sc/304623
Auto inject.
http://drop.sc/304549
Another one found on dropsc
11:18 blindly intercepts mutas
Too obvious to need to look at anymore.
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If someone select a queen and inject in the same frame, is it auto inject?
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1 frame is 1/64 second. So i think yes.
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On February 14 2013 23:16 TechNoTrance wrote:Hacker name : LiquidSnute Server : NA League : High Master Description : http://drop.sc/304623Auto inject. http://drop.sc/304549Another one found on dropsc 11:18 blindly intercepts mutas Too obvious to need to look at anymore.
The replay with LearnTwoLoL was uploaded by me, I created a thread in the wrong thread by accident. If you look at 20:07 inside of LiquidSnute's vision, you can see that he looks into the fog of war exactly where the lings are without scouting them whatsoever. You can also see usage of auto inject and always has knowledge of where the mutalisk are.
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If it's true it would be a huge blow to TL :/
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On February 15 2013 05:43 Sakray wrote:
If it's true it would be a huge blow to TL :/
Obviously thats not snute, tons of hackers use pro names as smurfs.
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Hacker name: GeorgeOrwell
Server: NA
League: Master
Description: Perfect army movement with no vision.
http://drop.sc/304690
Never scouts after prove scout, never makes obs, never takes towers unless I have a unit there, but he always knows where my army is.
@6:30 He tries to chase down my scv, but before he even touches the watchtower, he turns back, because my army is there.
@6:45 He looks through the fog of war at my natural
@ 9:30 He sends a stalker to intercept my scouting marine
@ 11:45 Moves stalkers in place to intercept my drop, while sending his army to attack my remaining forces
@ 11:05 Positions his entire army to intercept mine, meanwhile having nothing in his base
@ 13:25 Sends stalkers, and warps in stalkers to intercept my drop
@ 16:00 Tries to re-position his army to receive mine
http://drop.sc/304692
Pretty much the same thing as game 1. No more scouting after inital probe scout. No obs. Yet perfect positioning, especially near the end when he tries to keep attacking my army, yet he has no vision. Luckily, his macro and micro is really really bad.
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On February 15 2013 05:43 Sakray wrote:
If it's true it would be a huge blow to TL :/
Don't worry. It isn't the real Snute.
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Hacker name:  fibonacci
Server: EU
League: master, 1086 points
Description:
fibonacci (t, top right) vs Ulz (p, bot left) @ cloud kingdom
On February 14 2013 14:56 ulz wrote:@ 5:08 Here we can see he's going to intercept my probe just after i order to build proxy pylon. + Show Spoiler +@ 5:20 He's just waiting my probe and already have his camera on his units waiting for the kill. + Show Spoiler +@ 5:55 He's going straight to the middle without even taking the xel naga tower spamming his attack move on the fog of war. + Show Spoiler +@ 6:09 I decide to send another probe, of course he will instantly try to intercept it without seeing it. + Show Spoiler +Funny how precise he is when he moves. + Show Spoiler +@ 7:33 Last attempt to build a proxy pylon, he will instantly kill it + Show Spoiler +I was so pissed off i decided to suicide my army on his bio at the end, thanks and sorry for my bad English. (All the screenshots in higher definition : imgur.com/a/Pyq0b)
fibonacci (t, top right) vs Kuolonhuuto (t, bot left) @ cloud kingdom
@6:00 goes directly to a hidden proxy starport and kills it, not having scouted the main.
Note:
the incident referred to at 6:10 - 6:25 leaves no doubt in my mind that this guy is hacking. with his 2 rax pressure moving midmap, he decides to blindly head towards the bottom rightcorner of the map instead of moving towards his enemy base, and picks off a probe and pylon.
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Hacker name:  LiquidSnute
Server: NA
League: master, 645 points
Description:
LiquidSnute (z, bot right) vs TechNo (p, top left) @ antiga shipyard
@5:54 autoinject
22684 LiquidSnute Hotkey Select 5
22684 LiquidSnute [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (3030c); target: x=133.50,y=29.50
22684 LiquidSnute Select Zergling x11 (10364,10368,10380,203a0,203a4,203a8,203ac,103e8,103ec,103f0,103f4), Deselect all @7:12 autoinject
7:12 LiquidSnute Hotkey Select 5
7:12 LiquidSnute [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10288); target: x=106.50,y=29.50
7:12 LiquidSnute Select Zergling x8 (10368,10380,203a0,203a8,203ac,103ec,103f0,103f4), Deselect all
LiquidSnute (z, bot left) vs LearnTwoLoL (z, top right) @ antiga shipyard
@6:23 autoinject
24532 LiquidSnute Hotkey Select 5
24532 LiquidSnute [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (10288); target: x=32.50,y=59.50
24532 LiquidSnute Select Larva x6 (20418,3045c,10460,1046c,10474,1048c), Deselect all @11:18 blindly intercepts mutas
@11:54 autoinject
11:54 LiquidSnute Hotkey Select 5
11:54 LiquidSnute [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (30544); target: x=72.50,y=28.50
11:54 LiquidSnute Deselect 2 units
Note:
this is ofc not the real snute.
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On February 14 2013 06:44 Psychologic wrote:
A better test for remorse would be to ask him to never play on the accounts he hacked on again. The accounts should really be banned either way, but it would at least show that he's willing to give up anything he gained from hacking (same goes for team membership, online tournament winnings, or account leveling services he may have provided).
His coaching is completely unrelated though. Any refund should be based on the quality of the coaching and whether you feel you learned from it.
Well false advertising is what got to me. I only paid for his coaching because he advertized being a GM. As I said in my video, the money is really no issue, I did it to see how ''sorry'' he actually was. I doubt he actually is sorry though. Arguing in this forum for 5 days trying to defend himself and calling others names, etc.
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FourLeafEX Once again. Played him yesterday didn't really notice he was hacking till I saw his name on this thread and watched my replay.
Hacker name : FourLeafEX
Server : NA
League : Master (top8 usually)
Description : Multiple peaks at my base in FOG, no observers except one in his army all-game long, blind counter everything (poorly)
Replay : http://drop.sc/304727
I feel ashamed by my level of play this game, I'm from EU and it was pretty late (or pretty early) in the morning don't pay attention. (I still win haha :D)
Hope this wave of hacker will come to an end it's pretty annoying and most of them have still no idea how to play.
Edit : Fixed link sorry and ty
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On February 15 2013 10:42 Dools1337 wrote:FourLeafEX Once again. Played him yesterday didn't really notice he was hacking till I saw his name on this thread and watched my replay. Hacker name : FourLeafEX Server : NA League : Master (top8 usually) Description : Multiple peaks at my base in FOG, no observers except one in his army all-game long, blind counter everything (poorly) Replay : http://drop.sc/303570 I feel ashamed by my level of play this game, I'm from EU and it was pretty late (or pretty early) in the morning don't pay attention. (I still win haha :D) Hope this wave of hacker will come to an end it's pretty annoying and most of them have still no idea how to play.
the game you linked is between StellarMango vs xXxYOLO something
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