• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:49
CEST 11:49
KST 18:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?7FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event13Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest ASL20 Preliminary Maps Unit and Spell Similarities
Tourneys
[BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Effective Commercial Building Cost Assessment Tips Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 592 users

GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 243 244 245 246 247 531 Next
You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 15:24:49
February 13 2013 15:15 GMT
#4881
On February 13 2013 23:24 2v2levels wrote:
He paid him $15 dollars which likely went to support Mango's hacking subscription. That would piss me off a lot.

I just want to see his account banned.

Oh yes, and my ladder points reimbursed, obviously.


well by that logic you might as well return your nike shoes because that means you supported child labour.
also the best way to get rid of a hacker is just to clean up and finish. he got caught and thats all.
no need to videos for nobodys.
youre just making them happier that you got that fed up with them
#theyrejusttrolls
#dontfeedthetrolls
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 15:23:31
February 13 2013 15:23 GMT
#4882
On February 13 2013 22:39 WtR wrote:
I don't maphack, that kid just got 2-0'ed and was raging. Notice how he wishes me to get hurt in a traffic accident after the second game. He's just letting off steam and trying to start a witch hunt. Here's a tip: get better at the game and blame yourself before blaming others.


So you're saying you usually pull 7 probes to scout for bunkers that you've never seen?

You must lose a shitton of games that way.
WtR
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom5 Posts
February 13 2013 16:27 GMT
#4883
On February 14 2013 00:23 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 22:39 WtR wrote:
I don't maphack, that kid just got 2-0'ed and was raging. Notice how he wishes me to get hurt in a traffic accident after the second game. He's just letting off steam and trying to start a witch hunt. Here's a tip: get better at the game and blame yourself before blaming others.


So you're saying you usually pull 7 probes to scout for bunkers that you've never seen?

You must lose a shitton of games that way.


Yes I always do this. It's part of my build. If he isn't building a bunker I attack with my probes to the enemy base to do damage if the terran went 4 command centres before barracks. I actually win quite a lot with this build. Of course, if he is building a bunker then I just stop it right there.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 13 2013 16:30 GMT
#4884
On February 14 2013 01:27 WtR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 00:23 dcemuser wrote:
On February 13 2013 22:39 WtR wrote:
I don't maphack, that kid just got 2-0'ed and was raging. Notice how he wishes me to get hurt in a traffic accident after the second game. He's just letting off steam and trying to start a witch hunt. Here's a tip: get better at the game and blame yourself before blaming others.


So you're saying you usually pull 7 probes to scout for bunkers that you've never seen?

You must lose a shitton of games that way.


Yes I always do this. It's part of my build. If he isn't building a bunker I attack with my probes to the enemy base to do damage if the terran went 4 command centres before barracks. I actually win quite a lot with this build. Of course, if he is building a bunker then I just stop it right there.

LOL
gylka
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine50 Posts
February 13 2013 17:39 GMT
#4885
On February 14 2013 01:27 WtR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 14 2013 00:23 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 22:39 WtR wrote:
I don't maphack, that kid just got 2-0'ed and was raging. Notice how he wishes me to get hurt in a traffic accident after the second game. He's just letting off steam and trying to start a witch hunt. Here's a tip: get better at the game and blame yourself before blaming others.


So you're saying you usually pull 7 probes to scout for bunkers that you've never seen?

You must lose a shitton of games that way.

Yes I always do this. It's part of my build. If he isn't building a bunker I attack with my probes to the enemy base to do damage if the terran went 4 command centres before barracks. I actually win quite a lot with this build. Of course, if he is building a bunker then I just stop it right there.

This is complete new metagame. So... will WtR be the new bonjwa?

p.s. or will he be banned and nobody will care about another cheater?
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
February 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#4886
On February 13 2013 10:50 DaSmooch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:29 TheKhyira wrote:
Played another hacker a few times.... I can go into detail if needed but it's pretty obvious starting right out with pulling probes against a bunker with no scout and no vision and then it just goes on from there.

http://drop.sc/304299
http://drop.sc/304305

His profile can be found at: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3288624/WtR although it looks like he namechanged to IIIIIIIIIIIl 3 games ago and the sites haven't updated it yet, I hope you can track him without problems.

Hope this guy is out of our community sooner rather than later.


Have only seen the first replay, but its clear evidence for me atleast.

@1:32 Fog of War watching at Wallin gets build
@3:21 Pulls 6 Probes against a Bunker at his Natural without vision of it and without been scouting.
@4:08 Pulls 6 Probes (which were on they way back to main mineral line) + 2 additional to defend a 2nd Bunker in building and a marine, without vision of it
@5:51 Fog of War watching incoming scouting marines, moves hidden probe further away
@7:24 Fog of War watching standing scouting marine


Played that fucker aswell : http://drop.sc/304445
Goes blind pylon block, never scouts, finds hidden bases, counters tech perfectly
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:53:09
February 13 2013 18:51 GMT
#4887
Now taking bets that aTLasd and WtR are the same person. Any takers?

By the way that was the worst excuse I have ever read lol
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 20:15:49
February 13 2013 20:15 GMT
#4888
On February 12 2013 05:49 nunez wrote:
i feel with the clicking of units you don't have vision off, combined with the portugese thread linked by bush( (i am not good at portugese, but there are a lot of pics and reps are provided there with a lot of pretty suspicious evidence) and all the other replays analyzed in this thread it's safe to add dakkon to the list. if anyone disagrees please let me know.

anyhow it needs to be compiled into one report.


I think he should be on confirmed hackers. Cmon, guy simply clicked a building he didnt have vision

1 - SC2gears is wrong and should never be trustworthy
2 - He used hacks

Maybe you are wondering how we dont have many people showing new evidence, since the guy we are talking about plays a lot of ladder. The anwser is simple, he only hacks while not streaming, which means some few tournaments games or important matches.

IMO you should add him as a hacker with an "*­Does not hack in ladder" or something like, but maybe you think its worthless to do so. Dakkon tries to be a popular guy in the brazillian "scene", with weekly "talkshows" on youtube, he even does some teaching programs to lower league people on youtube, always streams his ladder sessions. He has an online reputation to care and thats why he is not hacking recently and we dont see many reports of him.
oo
SpiritSTR
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Brazil41 Posts
February 13 2013 20:37 GMT
#4889
On February 12 2013 05:49 nunez wrote:
i feel with the clicking of units you don't have vision off, combined with the portugese thread linked by bush( (i am not good at portugese, but there are a lot of pics and reps are provided there with a lot of pretty suspicious evidence) and all the other replays analyzed in this thread it's safe to add dakkon to the list. if anyone disagrees please let me know.

anyhow it needs to be compiled into one report.


Yea i guess the is time to put DakkoN name in list, is confirmed and it has enough evidence for that, and anyone seems to disagree. Just my opinion .
Luck is the last dying wish of those who wanna believe that winning can happen by accident, sweat on the other hand is for those who know its a choice
Psychologic
Profile Joined May 2011
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 21:45:48
February 13 2013 21:44 GMT
#4890
On February 12 2013 22:25 Priest214 wrote:
StellarMango used to be a ''friend'' I played some games with and I even paid him 15$ for coaching once. I just asked for that 15$ back. I guess we'll see if he really is sorry or not. xD


A better test for remorse would be to ask him to never play on the accounts he hacked on again. The accounts should really be banned either way, but it would at least show that he's willing to give up anything he gained from hacking (same goes for team membership, online tournament winnings, or account leveling services he may have provided).

His coaching is completely unrelated though. Any refund should be based on the quality of the coaching and whether you feel you learned from it.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
February 13 2013 23:08 GMT
#4891
just played a guy that almost certainly is a maphacker
bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
here are 2 replays (click on his name to see more vs other players)
http://drop.sc/304495
http://drop.sc/304497

first game he builds 4 blind bunkers against an immortal gate allin.
2nd game he positions his army to catch my blinkstalkers without scouting.

if you check the chat of other replays of this player you will see that almost all of his opponents accuse him of being a maphacker.

he is rank 1 masters rightnow with around 1400 points.

apparently he changed his name from etNa to Dysphoria around 2 months ago and then to barcode shortly after.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 13 2013 23:09 GMT
#4892
On February 14 2013 08:08 Kaitokid wrote:
just played a guy that almost certainly is a maphacker
bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
here are 2 replays (click on his name to see more vs other players)
http://drop.sc/304495
http://drop.sc/304497

first game he builds 4 blind bunkers against an immortal gate allin.
2nd game he positions his army to catch my blinkstalkers without scouting.

if you check the chat of other replays of this player you will see that almost all of his opponents accuse him of being a maphacker.

he is rank 1 masters rightnow with around 1400 points.

apparently he changed his name from etNa to Dysphoria around 2 months ago and then to barcode shortly after.


yes, he's a previously known hacker. his bnet id is listed in the op. keep submitting though, i'll just move his name to the front again next time around.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
February 13 2013 23:12 GMT
#4893
On February 14 2013 08:09 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:08 Kaitokid wrote:
just played a guy that almost certainly is a maphacker
bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
here are 2 replays (click on his name to see more vs other players)
http://drop.sc/304495
http://drop.sc/304497

first game he builds 4 blind bunkers against an immortal gate allin.
2nd game he positions his army to catch my blinkstalkers without scouting.

if you check the chat of other replays of this player you will see that almost all of his opponents accuse him of being a maphacker.

he is rank 1 masters rightnow with around 1400 points.

apparently he changed his name from etNa to Dysphoria around 2 months ago and then to barcode shortly after.


yes, he's a previously known hacker. his bnet id is listed in the op. keep submitting though, i'll just move his name to the front again next time around.


thanks. how do you respond so damn quickly? lol
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 13 2013 23:53 GMT
#4894
On February 14 2013 08:12 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:09 nunez wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:08 Kaitokid wrote:
just played a guy that almost certainly is a maphacker
bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
here are 2 replays (click on his name to see more vs other players)
http://drop.sc/304495
http://drop.sc/304497

first game he builds 4 blind bunkers against an immortal gate allin.
2nd game he positions his army to catch my blinkstalkers without scouting.

if you check the chat of other replays of this player you will see that almost all of his opponents accuse him of being a maphacker.

he is rank 1 masters rightnow with around 1400 points.

apparently he changed his name from etNa to Dysphoria around 2 months ago and then to barcode shortly after.


yes, he's a previously known hacker. his bnet id is listed in the op. keep submitting though, i'll just move his name to the front again next time around.


thanks. how do you respond so damn quickly? lol


automation hacks.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 00:02:56
February 14 2013 00:02 GMT
#4895
On February 14 2013 08:53 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:12 Kaitokid wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:09 nunez wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:08 Kaitokid wrote:
just played a guy that almost certainly is a maphacker
bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3322073/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
here are 2 replays (click on his name to see more vs other players)
http://drop.sc/304495
http://drop.sc/304497

first game he builds 4 blind bunkers against an immortal gate allin.
2nd game he positions his army to catch my blinkstalkers without scouting.

if you check the chat of other replays of this player you will see that almost all of his opponents accuse him of being a maphacker.

he is rank 1 masters rightnow with around 1400 points.

apparently he changed his name from etNa to Dysphoria around 2 months ago and then to barcode shortly after.


yes, he's a previously known hacker. his bnet id is listed in the op. keep submitting though, i'll just move his name to the front again next time around.


thanks. how do you respond so damn quickly? lol


automation hacks.



+ Show Spoiler +
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Priest214
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan30 Posts
February 14 2013 01:28 GMT
#4896
Well, regardless of Mango in particular, the message I was trying to get across applies to any cheater really, as I said in the vid myself. xD

P.S. levels cute troll
Starcraft is not a game, it is not a hobby, it is a way of life.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
February 14 2013 01:44 GMT
#4897
On February 14 2013 05:37 SpiritSTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 05:49 nunez wrote:
i feel with the clicking of units you don't have vision off, combined with the portugese thread linked by bush( (i am not good at portugese, but there are a lot of pics and reps are provided there with a lot of pretty suspicious evidence) and all the other replays analyzed in this thread it's safe to add dakkon to the list. if anyone disagrees please let me know.

anyhow it needs to be compiled into one report.


Yea i guess the is time to put DakkoN name in list, is confirmed and it has enough evidence for that, and anyone seems to disagree. Just my opinion .



Yeah, I posted in this thread a long time ago with DakkoN hacking against me on ladder, in fact. He's a clear hacker, and absolutely should be on the list.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 04:05:51
February 14 2013 04:05 GMT
#4898
I'm a bit late to the party but Mango's apology was one of the lamest I've ever heard... I dunno why he would apologies, I mean hacking sucks but apologizing for that seems kind of random... Nobody really cares about online apologies from a guy we don't personally know, just move on and quit hacking tbh

post scriptum : gj nunez as always <3
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 14 2013 04:10 GMT
#4899
haha, thanks. but i don't feel i can hang his scalp on my alone belt! there were a lot of people contributing more than me. i am glad my bold comment don't look dumb in hindsight though.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 14 2013 04:19 GMT
#4900
Hacker name: StellarMango
Server: NA
League: grandmaster, 557 points
Description:

+ Show Spoiler [NightLover analysis] +
On February 05 2013 18:02 NightLover wrote:
http://drop.sc/302318
@2:40 Blindly builds a 2nd gateway before cybernetics core without scouting the proxy 2gate/2rax
@3:00 Looks at the proxy 2 rax in the fog of war and pings it right before my overlord has vision of it


http://drop.sc/302316
@6:59-7:09 Screen locks for 10 seconds and then correctly and blindly calls out that the other double protoss team was going one stargate and one robo
@9:19 Calls out warp prism when he had no vision of it
@9:48 Moves his stalkers into the path of the warp prism that we had no vision of at the last second
@17:20 Camera locks in a random spot for 8 seconds during the game deciding battle


http://drop.sc/302315
@11:10 Moves his army right in front of the ling runby with no vision at the perfect time
@12:41 Looks directly at the Spire that was just put down in the fog of war
@13:07 Moves his observer out of its queued path to make sure he sees the spire


http://drop.sc/302317
@4:34 Scouts proxy pylon in base at the perfect time
@7:55 Gets a 2nd observer before any units from his robo without knowing for sure that the other team is going DT


+ Show Spoiler [EtheralDeath analysis] +
On February 10 2013 14:21 EtherealDeath wrote:

Going to update as I post.

http://drop.sc/303571
The moment speed starts, Mango goes cyber core into immediate 2 more gateways the second the cyber core starts. Really strange because this map is very long to go gateway pressure by ground on (and even if it were gateway pressure it would not be done this way as on a long map like this you give your opponent much time to respond, while weakening your econ greatly for any transition or followup), as Mango does not even attempt to place a proxy pylon on the map. Looks fine at first - but then lings start being produced en masse and Mango priorities zealot sentry over probe production... interesting. There is no chance of putting on serious pressure if you're making sentries as well. If Flo (we shall not say whose smurf this is) is doing anything other than this random all in, which I would like to remind you Mango has not tried to scout at all, then Mango would die. The guy's got 28 probes at 7:16. This does not happen at GM level. This gets you killed.

And then camera stops moving completely from 6:26 to 7:16, except once to make probes. Yes that's right, he goes back to his nexus to manually make probes instead of just doing it from the hotkey group... never seen a GM do that but ok.

You might say - ah but wait, he tried a failed cannon rush at first, this explains his low probe count. Actually, this in my eyes makes it even stranger. All his chronos once cyber core is up goes on his warpgate tech. Why? The only reason I can think of, given that he stayed on the 3 gates that he made asap without ever attempting to add more gates or tech in time to do any real push, is that he knew a low drone all in was coming. His play makes no sense to me otherwise. I cannot see this build being strong against much else. Note that the zerg's nat started at 2:47 and his 3rd at 3:44. Mango's build is dead to everything other than the one thing Flo did here. I was GM myself, with PvZ being my best matchup. Correct me if you have another opinion, but I cannot see what Mango here having any chance against standard ZvP play.

Suspicioius meter: 8/10.


http://drop.sc/303567
It appears cannon block is Mango's typical line of play, as he does it again this game, and this time it forces the nat to cancel. Immediate warning lights that go off - this guy does not care about spreading pylons around his base to scout for nydus. What might a zerg do after being cannoned? Could go nydus, could go macro, could go fast muta. Now Mango sees a drone coming out - but really this is a bad excuse to not pylon up because you never know, and not pyloning can be suicidal. Note that Mango feels safe enough to not only not pylon his main, but also to make 0 gateway units until his wg finishes at 10:00. Instead he is just massing up phoenix in his main with no map vision. Now of course massing up to 4 phoenix is often done, sometimes even more for the element of surprise. However by now there could be nydus even with hydraling in his main - this guy has got 0 scouting and doesn't care to try to scout, same as in the game vs Flo. Rest of the game is fairly straightforward after the mutas are hard countered.

Suspicious meter: 6/10


http://drop.sc/303569
Starts off with a cannon block as usual. What is special here is when the drone goes to make the hatch, 2 probes follow to get the hatch but are late, not 1. But this could just be disorientation, that's nothing. But then, a spire starts, and immediately a stargate starts. Then in all strangeness, there's both a spire AND a nydus, and the moment the nydus starts Mango rings his main with pylons, despite being at 37/60 supply and showing a complete disregard for the possibility of nydus before (remember, he tried no followup scouting on Rhythm in the previous replay).

Suspicious meter: Alone this would be simply 0/10. However given the cumulative watching of just PvZ so far, something smells wrong. His play looks different here, as if he were lacking confidence that he usually plays with.


http://drop.sc/303570
Our 4th PvZ. Mango goes yet again for cannon wall. This time however, the zerg panicks or something, and never goes lair. Mango just happens to deviate from his norm and pure chrono his nexuses, does not get a stargate AND does not spread pylons, and just goes for straight up warpgate prism col push. This could just be a random deviation. However this does not seem to feel right from what I've been watching of Mango's PvZ, and how he spends chronos and what he goes for. Notice even at 8:50 he is content to be on 1 sentry, with only 1 warpgate complete. If a nydus or a 1 base muta tech happens as has happened twice already, he will take heavy damage. But he does not care, doesn't even try to scout until obs really late, too late for any useful scouting really.

Suspicious meter - On it's own, 2/10. With what I've seen so far, 8.5 / 10.


http://drop.sc/303573
Actually tries to scout for once with his cannoning probe when the zerg for goes mass ling after cannon block, spots extra lings, and immediately full wall add more gate add another cannon, which ofc is the proper response given what he saw. Not much else to say, the zerg let a probe stay hidden.

Suspicious meter - 0/10.


http://drop.sc/303568
PvT. Not much to say here either. Just a no scout 4 gate immortal push that happens to hit a 1 rax gas expand and ofc win. However, note when pressure hits at 6:10 and he sees 2 marauder and a marine, and is pushed back with 1 stalker 1 sentry - he uses his FF here and now is out of energy. The terran could keep pushing with reinforcements - or he could retreat. What does our no scouting protoss do? He doesn't warp in any more units. Just stays on 1 stalker and 1 energy-less sentry, sitting by his nexus. Between his sentry finishing at 6:09 and his first warpin round at 7:25 he does not make any units DESPITE the early marauder marine pressure hitting him, which should signal it is no normal 1 rax gasless FE, and despite having used up all his energy on the first poke. He even feels safe to walk out on the map to the terran nat with his 1 stalker 1 sentry during this 1:16 period of no warpins (2 unused warpin cycles) AFTER the terran pressure still with 0 scouting of the map - he hasn't even tried to scout the terran's nat for an expand/bunker or anything all game! How does he know the map is clear for him to move out, or that the terran wasn't stocking up more units for another poke at say 7:00? If the terran actually went 2 rax and pushes around 7, Mango is dead. He didn't warpin for 2 cycles, and one warpin cycle will not save him vs a 2 rax pressure.

Suspicious meter - 9/10.


All in all, I'm fairly suspicious that Mango was hacking in the majority of these games. There is too much play that makes utterly no sense / pointless risk at GM level.



+ Show Spoiler [nunez' note on blind intercept] +
On February 12 2013 05:55 nunez wrote:
did anyone analyze the replays between mango and tankz yet?

mango vs tankz
how does he intercept the warp prism play in his main at 8:38?
if that's a lucky coincidence i am the earl of doncaster.


+ Show Spoiler [imbaas youtube video] +
On February 12 2013 13:01 IMBACoaching wrote:
Here's a video I made about StellerMango. I hope you we can all forgive him for I know it was hard for him to confess.


conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Prev 1 243 244 245 246 247 531 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8737
Sea 3199
Flash 1803
TY 725
Zeus 218
Soma 207
Pusan 133
Rush 114
ToSsGirL 75
EffOrt 63
[ Show more ]
Aegong 51
Shinee 50
Sharp 43
ZerO 30
Stork 25
Movie 21
Noble 12
Mind 11
Free 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Hm[arnc] 3
Bale 1
Britney 0
Dota 2
420jenkins659
BananaSlamJamma644
XcaliburYe538
XaKoH 443
League of Legends
singsing608
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1077
shoxiejesuss780
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King125
Other Games
shahzam1275
ceh9770
Happy366
crisheroes254
KnowMe247
Pyrionflax162
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick690
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt461
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 12m
PiGosaur Monday
14h 12m
The PondCast
1d
Replay Cast
1d 14h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Cham
WardiTV European League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
WardiTV European League
3 days
FEL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: ProLeague
5 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.