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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#4841
Hacker name: NITRIXSOPHOS
Server: NA
League: master
Description:

DaSmooch analysis

conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:20:06
February 11 2013 21:17 GMT
#4842
Hacker name: NITRIXeDRINK
Server: NA
League: N/A
Description:

DaSmooch analysis

Note: not adding this shitbird to the list. not significant.

edit: do you know what NITRIX is? yes, that is that worthless piece of shit hacking clan right? great pr.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
February 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#4843
On February 11 2013 05:37 Nyast wrote:
Hacker name: EsteeLauder ( http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3474029/EsteeLauder )
Server: EU, but he spoke in korean for a moment I think, and there's somebody with the same name on KR server..
League: master, 618 pts, 38w / 15l

Description: in game he told me I was a n00b toss cause I had "slow hands" and "low apm", I wonder how he could know that without a hack.. ? Anyway, after the game he accused me of map hacking, and there was some suspicious moves during the game, so I had a look at the replay.. and it seems he was the one map hacking..
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=278408

Proof:
- 4'40: goes for 1 rax triple CC before he scouted I even took my natural. Does not make a bunker to be safe, I could be 4 gating...
- 6'40: moves his marines where my scouting probe goes, without seeing it
- 7'00: makes 2 blind bunkers cause I added a fourth gate. Cancels them later when he sees I'm actually teching.. (all blindly)
- 8'30: moves his third CC from his main to his 3rd. At this point he still hasn't scouted anything I'm doing, minimap is empty, I could be doing a push...
- 9'30: starts a ghost academy blindly as I have warped 2 templars. Seriously, who goes for fast 3 CC dual engy bays and ghost academy without even scouting my first unit or building ? For all he know I could still be on 1 base..
- 10'45: changes his army direction suddenly to intercept a probe I had sneaked out of my base a few seconds before, when he was killing the rocks. Kills my proxy probe at 11' without having a clue it's there..
- 11'38: probably the most conclusive proof. Lifts his 3rd's CC and saves his scvs without seeing me coming. He doesn't even have the xel naga tower.
- 14'55: looks at my third base in the fog
- 15'40: at this point in the game, our Terran still hasn't seen a single building of mine on the minimap. His 4 medivac drop finally gives vision of some of my base.
- 16'00: Has a small group of units in front of my third ( which he hasn't scouted yet ), apparently he wanted to attack during his drop. But he doesn't. In fact he sees in the fog of war that I've splitted my army, so he decides to retreat ( which makes no sense if he didn't have vision of what I was doing ).

I haven't watched the rest of the game, it's basically more of the same, him intercepting harass zealots, making vikings when he doesn't see I'm making colossi, etc.. ), I think there's enough proof in it so far. That guy has a very good win ratio ( 75%+ ) but apparently it's all due to his map hack, he's BM and in fact has no skills of his own.


On February 06 2013 00:46 Sokrates wrote:
http://drop.sc/302362#apm
Name: EsteeLauder
Server: NA
League: Master

I think this is another hacker... doesnt scout at all. Drops my expansion without scouting it first and the most suspicious thing is at 27:30 :

He moves his army to the base i want to attack, then cancels his CC cancels the planetary and flys it away, just 10 secs before i wanted to attack it without having any vision of my army at all.



I also thought he is hacking... doing some really obivous stuff.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 02:12:21
February 11 2013 21:43 GMT
#4844
i missed that, thanks. ye, that was blatant.
edit: i guess chelsea was right after all.

Hacker name: EsteeLauder
Server: EU / NA
League: master, 618 points
Description:

EsteeLauder (t, bot right) vs Nyast (p, top left) @ ohana

Nyasts analysis:

- 4'40: goes for 1 rax triple CC before he scouted I even took my natural. Does not make a bunker to be safe, I could be 4

gating...
- 6'40: moves his marines where my scouting probe goes, without seeing it
- 7'00: makes 2 blind bunkers cause I added a fourth gate. Cancels them later when he sees I'm actually teching.. (all blindly)
- 8'30: moves his third CC from his main to his 3rd. At this point he still hasn't scouted anything I'm doing, minimap is empty,

I could be doing a push...
- 9'30: starts a ghost academy blindly as I have warped 2 templars. Seriously, who goes for fast 3 CC dual engy bays and ghost

academy without even scouting my first unit or building ? For all he know I could still be on 1 base..
- 10'45: changes his army direction suddenly to intercept a probe I had sneaked out of my base a few seconds before, when he was

killing the rocks. Kills my proxy probe at 11' without having a clue it's there..
- 11'38: probably the most conclusive proof. Lifts his 3rd's CC and saves his scvs without seeing me coming. He doesn't even have

the xel naga tower.
- 14'55: looks at my third base in the fog
- 15'40: at this point in the game, our Terran still hasn't seen a single building of mine on the minimap. His 4 medivac drop

finally gives vision of some of my base.
- 16'00: Has a small group of units in front of my third ( which he hasn't scouted yet ), apparently he wanted to attack during

his drop. But he doesn't. In fact he sees in the fog of war that I've splitted my army, so he decides to retreat ( which makes no

sense if he didn't have vision of what I was doing ).
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
February 12 2013 00:35 GMT
#4845
I'm not defending this mango dude, and I've only seen one replay of him.
But this PvP vs Tankz with the warp prism doesn't seem suspicious at all.

He sees what seems like a GW only army moving out with a lot of sentries but to extra tech.
Then he does the smart thing and puts his army at his main and sends a probe out then he repsponds to WP just as it flies above his obs.

Just seems like general decent play.

nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 00:45:39
February 12 2013 00:45 GMT
#4846
On February 12 2013 09:35 stava88 wrote:
I'm not defending this mango dude, and I've only seen one replay of him.
But this PvP vs Tankz with the warp prism doesn't seem suspicious at all.

He sees what seems like a GW only army moving out with a lot of sentries but to extra tech.
Then he does the smart thing and puts his army at his main and sends a probe out then he repsponds to WP just as it flies above his obs.

Just seems like general decent play.



ok, i was too brazen. i thought it look pretty sick, considering how little scouting knowledge he really had besides that gateway army. maybe he had held back his immortals, equally possible, and he goes up to his main and just gieves up his nat?
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 12 2013 00:48 GMT
#4847
On February 12 2013 09:45 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 09:35 stava88 wrote:
I'm not defending this mango dude, and I've only seen one replay of him.
But this PvP vs Tankz with the warp prism doesn't seem suspicious at all.

He sees what seems like a GW only army moving out with a lot of sentries but to extra tech.
Then he does the smart thing and puts his army at his main and sends a probe out then he repsponds to WP just as it flies above his obs.

Just seems like general decent play.



ok, i was too brazen. i thought it look pretty sick, considering how little scouting knowledge he really had besides that gateway army. maybe he had held back his immortals, equally possible, and he goes up to his nat and just gieves up his nat?

I haven't watched his pvp replays but I wouldn't be surprised if he is hiding it better now or has hack off sometimes. The PvZ replays and the PvT vs rhythm (which he uploaded himself, so he clearly considers them to be clean) pretty much have settled my opinion on this matter. It might just be that Mango is at the line where, if I were to ever play against him, I would play based on the belief that he is a hacker, but it may not be so completely brazen as to equal the level of indisputability that has so far marked people who are added to the hacker list.
NightLover
Profile Joined February 2013
4 Posts
February 12 2013 01:29 GMT
#4848
On February 05 2013 18:02 NightLover wrote:
Hacker name: StellarMango (formerly LGMango) aka Freeman
Server: North America
League: Masters
Description:
He has some of the best minimap awareness I've seen. Especially for only 50 apm

http://drop.sc/302318
@2:40 Blindly builds a 2nd gateway before cybernetics core without scouting the proxy 2gate/2rax
@3:00 Looks at the proxy 2 rax in the fog of war and pings it right before my overlord has vision of it


http://drop.sc/302316
@6:59-7:09 Screen locks for 10 seconds and then correctly and blindly calls out that the other double protoss team was going one stargate and one robo
@9:19 Calls out warp prism when he had no vision of it
@9:48 Moves his stalkers into the path of the warp prism that we had no vision of at the last second
@17:20 Camera locks in a random spot for 8 seconds during the game deciding battle


http://drop.sc/302315
@11:10 Moves his army right in front of the ling runby with no vision at the perfect time
@12:41 Looks directly at the Spire that was just put down in the fog of war
@13:07 Moves his observer out of its queued path to make sure he sees the spire


http://drop.sc/302317
@4:34 Scouts proxy pylon in base at the perfect time
@7:55 Gets a 2nd observer before any units from his robo without knowing for sure that the other team is going DT


ahem
If Night is reading this, please PM me a scanned autograph to this TL account.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
February 12 2013 01:37 GMT
#4849
This EsteeLauder guy you put on the confirmed hacker list is also playing on NA as i mentioned in my post+ replay against him.
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
February 12 2013 01:39 GMT
#4850
Which are the most conclusive replays sowing him hacking?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 12 2013 01:42 GMT
#4851
On February 12 2013 10:29 NightLover wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 18:02 NightLover wrote:
Hacker name: StellarMango (formerly LGMango) aka Freeman
Server: North America
League: Masters
Description:
He has some of the best minimap awareness I've seen. Especially for only 50 apm

http://drop.sc/302318
@2:40 Blindly builds a 2nd gateway before cybernetics core without scouting the proxy 2gate/2rax
@3:00 Looks at the proxy 2 rax in the fog of war and pings it right before my overlord has vision of it


http://drop.sc/302316
@6:59-7:09 Screen locks for 10 seconds and then correctly and blindly calls out that the other double protoss team was going one stargate and one robo
@9:19 Calls out warp prism when he had no vision of it
@9:48 Moves his stalkers into the path of the warp prism that we had no vision of at the last second
@17:20 Camera locks in a random spot for 8 seconds during the game deciding battle


http://drop.sc/302315
@11:10 Moves his army right in front of the ling runby with no vision at the perfect time
@12:41 Looks directly at the Spire that was just put down in the fog of war
@13:07 Moves his observer out of its queued path to make sure he sees the spire


http://drop.sc/302317
@4:34 Scouts proxy pylon in base at the perfect time
@7:55 Gets a 2nd observer before any units from his robo without knowing for sure that the other team is going DT


ahem

Oh, good point lol.
puppylisk
Profile Joined February 2013
United States47 Posts
February 12 2013 01:44 GMT
#4852
On February 10 2013 11:44 -DJZark- wrote:
Someone sent me this:

http://i.imgur.com/Hc24mwZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ShIxpeE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8njwLIt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FWqiEhy.jpg



ahem....
http://www.twitch.tv/puppylisk
IMBACoaching
Profile Joined October 2010
United States86 Posts
February 12 2013 04:01 GMT
#4853
Here's a video I made about StellerMango. I hope you we can all forgive him for I know it was hard for him to confess.

Savior of eSports
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
February 12 2013 04:18 GMT
#4854
On February 12 2013 13:01 1MBACoaching wrote:
Here's a video I made about StellerMango. I hope you we can all forgive him for I know it was hard for him to confess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2LMgZVlqXw&feature=youtu.be



Well that was fast, just yesterday he was lying to defend his replays. A pretty meaningless and shallow apology if you ask me. Not that it really matters, it doesn't sound like anyone had any respect for him before anyways.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 04:30:26
February 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#4855
On February 12 2013 13:01 1MBACoaching wrote:
Here's a video I made about StellerMango. I hope you we can all forgive him for I know it was hard for him to confess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2LMgZVlqXw&feature=youtu.be


Sad to hear, used to be a friend of mine back when I played

Also would like to point out that VCMH requires a paid registration therefore, couldn't be sent by a friend (or atleast could not make it work without paying).
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
February 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#4856
Ah Mango :[
I want to say that I play 2s with mango pretty often, but I haven't seen anything really definitive. To be honest, we lose a lot of games because of not scouting lol... I would have never thought that he actually hacks.

If anyone ever wants replays, I guess I can provide a bunch of them.
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2v2StellarMango
Profile Joined September 2012
United States17 Posts
February 12 2013 04:46 GMT
#4857
no the replays were legit though. It was previous to that i was hacking, which is still hacking so i admitted in general.

User was banned for this post.
streaming some top level 2v2s :) lets have some fun and hang out!
2v2levels
Profile Joined December 2012
United States88 Posts
February 12 2013 05:53 GMT
#4858
No they weren't.

That's the most half-assed apology ever. You're a bitch.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 12 2013 06:20 GMT
#4859
So he's better without hacks than he is with hacks? Is that a funny?
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 12 2013 09:03 GMT
#4860
2v2StellarMango was just banned by GMarshal.

That account was created on 2012-09-27 09:16:24 and had 17 posts.

Reason: Admitted hacker

There was already pretty much undeniable proof that he was still hacking and before reporting him I just waited for him to admit having hacked at some point.
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