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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Lazo89
Profile Joined September 2010
United States7 Posts
March 05 2013 04:29 GMT
#5041
Hacker name: JJMarkar
Server: NA
League: Master
Description: Knew I was cannon cheesing, blatantly looked into my base.

http://drop.sc/309105
coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 20:00:56
March 07 2013 19:13 GMT
#5042
Hacker name weSsOr
Server EU
League Master League replay1 http://drop.sc/309403
Description

he attacks right when i unsiege, when i ask him why he would attack there he tells me , he waited till im getting my 3rd, which he couldnt see , no overlord around. also he presplits his roaches at his first attack knowing i went for fast siege tanks. ive played this guy before hes a ladder beast but this game is just super suspicious, it couldve been luck his attack timing but it seemed pretty random and also he claims that he waited till im getting my 3rd base ready,which is odd.
i just played him again, now im pretty sure hes maphacking , i go for 11-11, he sends out his scout, before he scouts my base he builds a 13 pool and gas for fast roaches... replay2 http://drop.sc/309406
\BibleThump/
EoinDee
Profile Joined February 2012
Ireland12 Posts
March 07 2013 19:52 GMT
#5043
Hacker name Roxxet
Server EU
League Master League
Description:

extrememly obvious maphacking including preparing for reapers perfectly with lings with no knowledge of our tech. Peeking at reapers through fog of war coming across the map etc. and building spines and loads of units when they saw no push coming.

http://drop.sc/309407
FlyingBeer
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 02:36:36
March 08 2013 02:35 GMT
#5044
Hacker name: bEPhoenix
Server: NA
League: Diamond
Description:
At 11:00, he's poised to attack me, but then pulls all the way back to his natural to be in perfect position to defend my warp prism drop.

http://drop.sc/309437
Youpla
Profile Joined August 2010
France8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 14:19:35
March 08 2013 14:12 GMT
#5045
Hi everyone,
First message for me on TL.

Hacker name: Jennifer
Server: EU
League: Master
Description:

No scouting AT ALL during the entire game, no scanning (except for detection), no map control, no harass where I have defending units, harass as soon as I'm leaving my base.

- 9:30 scan exact position of an immobile obs that he never saw moving
- 12:20 same
- 14:15 sends 3 banshees on a proxy pylon as soon as it is put (OBVIOUS)
- 14:30 the same 3 banshees cross the map (doesnt even care of avoiding xelnaga tower or possible stalkers on the map) and start killing probes at the only position not defended by units.
- 17:00 places camera over my army in the FOW (ULTRA OBVIOUS)
- 17:45 for the first time my army is out of position, he sends immediately two packs of units to my 3rd and 4th (he didnt know about 4th). Notice : he never sent harass units where I have no expand.
- 18:22 at the same time my army is getting close to his => he sieges up.
- 19:30 I'm trying to attack on the left side, then on the right, but he is moving is army accordingly
- 21:00 Seeing he is cheating, I'm retreating, leaving my HT behind my army for a few seconds. He immediately chases and kills them with helions.

Another player (contacted through his history) told me he had suspicion and reported him too.

http://drop.sc/309471

EDIT : how is this thread working ? are there some ppl here at TL watching the replays ? Who is taking the decision ? Thx.
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#5046
not to be the bearer of bad news, but with the release of the "regional" tab, it will now almost be impossible to find all the hackers and if you do catch them, quite honestly they probably have already been labeled a hacker in "NA" but now plays on "Europe" under a new name.

So what it turns into is a very large chain of people reporting hackers ( to this site which the people running this thread put a large amount of work into reviewing replays ) which are all the same people that have been proven already in a different region.


Goodluck with the fight guys, but tbh I would hope and pray that reporting it to blizzard does something ( but most likely does nothing)
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
March 10 2013 20:46 GMT
#5047
Maphacker: abuzerg
http://drop.sc/309811
ZvZ: Never scouts anything, no spire yet sits in his base as if it's spire tech instead of the standard infestor/roach opener, runs back to save his base from a ling counter with no vision, and at the end part of game insta-moves his army up a tight choke with no vision of infestors leaving the ramp but moves his screen there.

Also entire game played with no map vision from him.
Sup
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 21:10:11
March 10 2013 21:09 GMT
#5048
On March 08 2013 23:20 Fusa wrote:
not to be the bearer of bad news, but with the release of the "regional" tab, it will now almost be impossible to find all the hackers and if you do catch them, quite honestly they probably have already been labeled a hacker in "NA" but now plays on "Europe" under a new name.

So what it turns into is a very large chain of people reporting hackers ( to this site which the people running this thread put a large amount of work into reviewing replays ) which are all the same people that have been proven already in a different region.


Goodluck with the fight guys, but tbh I would hope and pray that reporting it to blizzard does something ( but most likely does nothing)


How does this make finding hackers harder? If a hacking account on NA gets banned, his cross server accounts will be banned as well since they are linked to the same person.

It just takes one of these accounts to get discovered for them all to be banned, so I really don't see what makes this "impossible" now.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
March 10 2013 21:12 GMT
#5049
On March 11 2013 06:09 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 23:20 Fusa wrote:
not to be the bearer of bad news, but with the release of the "regional" tab, it will now almost be impossible to find all the hackers and if you do catch them, quite honestly they probably have already been labeled a hacker in "NA" but now plays on "Europe" under a new name.

So what it turns into is a very large chain of people reporting hackers ( to this site which the people running this thread put a large amount of work into reviewing replays ) which are all the same people that have been proven already in a different region.


Goodluck with the fight guys, but tbh I would hope and pray that reporting it to blizzard does something ( but most likely does nothing)


How does this make finding hackers harder? If a hacking account on NA gets banned, his cross server accounts will be banned as well since they are linked to the same person.

It just takes one of these accounts to get discovered for them all to be banned, so I really don't see what makes this "impossible" now.



*paranoid*

perhaps fusa is a maphacker taunting TL members? :>
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
March 10 2013 23:46 GMT
#5050
they say that theyre "working on antihacks" in hots
but i doubt it
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
March 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#5051
If they manage to have the same antihack than iCCup, it would be quite cool I think.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
March 11 2013 07:53 GMT
#5052
On March 11 2013 11:05 Sakray wrote:
If they manage to have the same antihack than iCCup, it would be quite cool I think.



question out of curiousity: how come iCCup was so good at deflecting hacks? How come hackers werent nearly as successful as on blizzard ladder?
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 11 2013 08:21 GMT
#5053
On March 11 2013 05:46 avilo wrote:
Maphacker: abuzerg
http://drop.sc/309811
ZvZ: Never scouts anything, no spire yet sits in his base as if it's spire tech instead of the standard infestor/roach opener, runs back to save his base from a ling counter with no vision, and at the end part of game insta-moves his army up a tight choke with no vision of infestors leaving the ramp but moves his screen there.

Also entire game played with no map vision from him.


lol fitting name!
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
March 11 2013 08:37 GMT
#5054
On March 08 2013 23:12 Youpla wrote:
Hi everyone,
First message for me on TL.

Hacker name: Jennifer
Server: EU
League: Master
Description:

No scouting AT ALL during the entire game, no scanning (except for detection), no map control, no harass where I have defending units, harass as soon as I'm leaving my base.

- 9:30 scan exact position of an immobile obs that he never saw moving
- 12:20 same
- 14:15 sends 3 banshees on a proxy pylon as soon as it is put (OBVIOUS)
- 14:30 the same 3 banshees cross the map (doesnt even care of avoiding xelnaga tower or possible stalkers on the map) and start killing probes at the only position not defended by units.
- 17:00 places camera over my army in the FOW (ULTRA OBVIOUS)
- 17:45 for the first time my army is out of position, he sends immediately two packs of units to my 3rd and 4th (he didnt know about 4th). Notice : he never sent harass units where I have no expand.
- 18:22 at the same time my army is getting close to his => he sieges up.
- 19:30 I'm trying to attack on the left side, then on the right, but he is moving is army accordingly
- 21:00 Seeing he is cheating, I'm retreating, leaving my HT behind my army for a few seconds. He immediately chases and kills them with helions.

Another player (contacted through his history) told me he had suspicion and reported him too.

http://drop.sc/309471

EDIT : how is this thread working ? are there some ppl here at TL watching the replays ? Who is taking the decision ? Thx.


i met that guy on ladder, too. most obvious maphack i´ve ever seen. i reported him, but i don´t have the replay anymore.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
March 11 2013 08:48 GMT
#5055
On March 11 2013 16:53 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:05 Sakray wrote:
If they manage to have the same antihack than iCCup, it would be quite cool I think.



question out of curiousity: how come iCCup was so good at deflecting hacks? How come hackers werent nearly as successful as on blizzard ladder?

Because in order to play ladder games, you had to run a program that would prevent you from using hacks.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
March 11 2013 13:26 GMT
#5056
http://drop.sc/309896

Hacker name: Koala
Server: EU
Rank: Masters

Not scouting at all, but responding to my scv at his natural, and stalker blocking his entrace with stalkers againts hellions without seeing any kind of indicator of hellions/gas play.

Hard countering my build with Stargate without scouting, and when he sees i start an engibay he cancels phoenix and starts voidray production.
Give thanks and praise!
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
March 11 2013 14:25 GMT
#5057
On March 11 2013 06:12 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:09 TechNoTrance wrote:
On March 08 2013 23:20 Fusa wrote:
not to be the bearer of bad news, but with the release of the "regional" tab, it will now almost be impossible to find all the hackers and if you do catch them, quite honestly they probably have already been labeled a hacker in "NA" but now plays on "Europe" under a new name.

So what it turns into is a very large chain of people reporting hackers ( to this site which the people running this thread put a large amount of work into reviewing replays ) which are all the same people that have been proven already in a different region.


Goodluck with the fight guys, but tbh I would hope and pray that reporting it to blizzard does something ( but most likely does nothing)


How does this make finding hackers harder? If a hacking account on NA gets banned, his cross server accounts will be banned as well since they are linked to the same person.

It just takes one of these accounts to get discovered for them all to be banned, so I really don't see what makes this "impossible" now.



*paranoid*

perhaps fusa is a maphacker taunting TL members? :>



lol, foolish, as if I would map hack and troll but I guess that would be your only concern, I am talking about the amount of time it takes to review replays and write up findings.

If I were running this thread looking at 20+ replays a day and having 3-4+ being the same person on a different region, it would be very discouraging. What the OP does and has been doing is a great thing, on the other side of the coin ( you know the one that actually matters) you have blizzard, who lack of better terms, sucks ass at banning and following through on banning the hacker.

You say, "but it only takes one of these accounts to get banned" yes, who is going to spend 1 hour watching replays "deem" they hacked only to log in the next day and do it all over again (with the same person on a different regional account).

Sounds more and more like a job with no rewards/payment/services, I love volunteers they do a world a public service but when you are cleaning up the same piece of shit, its not so much volunteering than it is slave labor with no rewards.
EllisA
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 16:45:32
March 11 2013 16:35 GMT
#5058
On March 05 2013 13:29 Lazo89 wrote:
Hacker name: JJMarkar
Server: NA
League: Master
Description: Knew I was cannon cheesing, blatantly looked into my base.

http://drop.sc/309105


Had a really suspicious game with this player as well as talked with his other victims. I don't have a smoking gun though, so I can't say with 100% certainty, but this player is very suspicious. Also, not that it's proof, but he is pretty annoying... which seems to go hand in hand with cheaters! I hope he gets busted soon.

EDIT: http://sc2ranks.com/us/3740865/JJMarkar/season/10

His profile shows him as a 200+ point gold player in season 10. Then all of the sudden he has a 74% win ratio and is in masters. Sure this isn't proof, but how many people do you know who improve like that?
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 01:30:01
March 13 2013 01:04 GMT
#5059
http://drop.sc/310044

Server: Eu
Hacker name: [McG] Yzerman
League: Master
Description: never scouts with scv, goes straight to kill proxy with a bunch of marines, never scans anything though the whole game and suspicious camera view during the first attack.

Added a replay from another player vs this hacker, talked to him and he agreed and gave me the replay: l
http://drop.sc/310048
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 06:12:30
March 13 2013 06:09 GMT
#5060
Name: Tirex
Race: Toss
Server: EU
League: Master
http://drop.sc/310067

Another hacker is brought to you by me:

He doesnt even scout my 8p, when his probe is in my main it sits at the ramp in sees nothing, yet he is focusing on his probe at the wall to build a cannon as soon as the forge is done.

After my early agression failed so hard i tried to win the game with a followup banebust since he is blind (well that is what i thought). He blindly chronos out a lot of zealots and builds another cannon behind his wall, before my banelings roll in and are in vision he splits his zealots lol.

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