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On March 20 2013 20:59 NrSAlaStOr wrote:I dont have too much time so im going to explain me fast: In my replay you can see how he makes without scouting vs 15 hatch, nexus gate forge canon (cause i make lings) and then he boost 2 zealots and instead of walling they move it to the mineral lane cause he know that he doesnt have time to defend walling. he never scouts when i start burrow he starts observer but he never use it to scout my base... And the point where im 100% sure that he is a hacker is when in the minute 14:xx , he is going to make an allin of coloso inmo etc at 2 bases, he is going to atak me, i try to make backdoor and he clicks in the dark without knowing anything to back to defend it.... then i checked his matchhistory and he told me that he never scouts but you can check that he makes this builds: vs 15 hatchery he always make nexus, gate forge gas gas core canon.... vs 15 pool he makes nexus forge gate canon zealot gas etc etc but vs me that i make rare 15 hatch (with lings instead of drones) he made nexus forge gate canon and 2 zeas boosted xD.... is this a coincidence? no when you see his matchhistory and you check that depends of the zerg build he makes one thing or other without scouting.... i just put 4 screens, but you can see his match history and check thats its like this in all his pvz. The replay: http://drop.sc/311585The screens of his matchhistory : http://imgur.com/WvceFPi,OdnORCo,D3GQRxW,SeIkfOd#3
It is not True!
i win this guy,and i think he has butthurt and only.
Yes,i just no scout if i want to play 4 gate push,coz no difference between what build zerg will play.anyway it is just only little push,i have also robotics,and that can switch to any build.
About my openings all depends on map and my opponent,if i know style of my opponent,for example top gm,im sure that he will no early pool,so can ez play 16 nexus than gate,only than forge.sure opening also depends on map,small it or large.
about click to back,it is logical to wait upgreade and only than atack+ i have not big limit,should to warp more units.
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Hacker name:mFa #1453
Server:N/A
League: Master
Description: Using Map hack, and observer panel.
Observer panel is being shown @ 10:53, blind counter ling muta by phoenix. No scout, okay that's fine. @ 11:53 Never seen anyone making more than 5 phoenix, and did not assume tech switch to corruptor or hydras. His phoenix count is way higher than my muta. (13 phoenix in total)
Map hack @ 15:50. Pre time warp on my lings without even any scouting of lings incoming and ready to use time warp.( While still massing up phoenix after 6-7 minutes.
Observer panel hack: Watching my producting count while producing ultraisk blindly creating voidrays after stopped reproducing mutas. @25:00 : Timing attack after massing up spine crawlers and spore crawlers because he knows that massing up static defense is the only possible option for him to lose, while his deathball is not ready, he engaged the battle and evaded the spots of my static defense to try and attack my main and neutral.
http://drop.sc/311865
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Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2625064/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
Server: EU
Description:
Maphacker. On begining he send 2 overlord on each side of my base on 4 player map. That was 2 only units he send outside his base, he did even look other spawn points. I used specific 2 starport build. As soon as I start ports he redraws both overlords without even glancing at my base or natural. The only thing he saw to this point is one supply depot on far side of base. He blindly creates 6 spores and hydras and hard counter this really rearly made build.
http://drop.sc/311940
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i am a bit busy atm with studies. got some projects due early april. but hopefully will have time after those, before exams to do some more. feel free to step up if you think it's unacceptable.
i hope everyone noticed the post from Sc2HDB.
i think it's a great initiative and would really give this thread a whole new dimension. the program could provide you alerts in game when you queue up vs a hacker, and the db would be maintained by volunteers (f.ex contributors to this thread).
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On March 13 2013 10:04 Extenz wrote:http://drop.sc/310044Server: Eu Hacker name: [McG] Yzerman League: Master Description: never scouts with scv, goes straight to kill proxy with a bunch of marines, never scans anything though the whole game and suspicious camera view during the first attack. Added a replay from another player vs this hacker, talked to him and he agreed and gave me the replay: l http://drop.sc/310048
Update: he recently changed name to [LCCON] Ibax, now GM in EU.
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I just noticed, how come many people who post here only have 1 post count?
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On March 22 2013 11:13 Swordland wrote:
I just noticed, how come many people who post here only have 1 post count?
probably come here to express their frustration after losing.
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Has anyone ever brought up Dyce in this thread? I could be wrong, and my replay isn't conclusive by itself, but it may warrant taking a look at him. For one thing, he's not that good but he's GM and 24-8. There's a general lack of scouting. But if he does hack, he makes an effort to hide it. Here's some specific things:
http://drop.sc/312138
7:40 - very strange drop at the tower near my hidden expo. I really see no reason to drop there.
12:45 - very convenient place to move his army there.
20:38 - again very good army movement timing.
These are pretty slight clues, it's mainly the drop and lack of skill that made me suspicious. But maybe GM is just bad right now at the beginning of hots. Or maybe I just didn't realize that NA GM isn't that impressive lol. If anyone else has been suspicous of him, please chime in.
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(Couldn't post in the old HoTs hacker thread, so I thought I'd place it here).
Replay: http://drop.sc/312213
B.net profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3456539/1/SalvatioN/
Server: NA
Name: SalvatioN
League: Grand Master
Description: Hmm, where to begin. Game starts off pretty standard, but it starts to get weird.
11:10 he drops down turrets in his base without scouting for lair (or a third for that matter..) w/ defensive widow mines near them (knows I'm going muta already).
16:55 (earlier technically) adds on tech labs for his barracks (this is a little hard since I dropped down the ultra den after he started more barracks production, but he's still unaware if I'm going hive tech).
21:55 He drops down additional star ports as my greater spire finishes (this is a little tricky, because it could be an obv tech switch)
24:40 He starts viking production (Hasn't seen my army, hasn't seen broodlords morphing, or scouting for greater spire yet)
Overall, it's a weird game. In one perspective, maybe he's just experienced enough to know the flow of the game. The timings maybe aren't that hard to get down? (although my timings were off).
Hopefully someone will be able to help me clarify! =D
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On March 22 2013 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 11:13 Swordland wrote:
I just noticed, how come many people who post here only have 1 post count? probably come here to express their frustration after losing.
Didn't know that trying to expose hackers and get the game cleaner was a way to "express our frustration".
To answer the question, this thread is probably the only one (in the world ?) that is worth posting in if you want to expose some hacker. So if English is not your first language, you can either post a useless message in your local forum, or create an account here.
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Hacker name: Finesse
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
http://drop.sc/311109
Pretty obvious maphacks all game. I didn't notice any autoprobe, but I'm almost certain he uses a production tab and fog of war hack.
3:55 - hides probe as soon as my drone approaches my third, no vision of drone
4:30 - starts to cannon rush my third, but immediately abandons the plan as soon as I tell my lings to check for a cannon rush at my third. He sees NOTHING, but randomly decides to not build a single cannon, just leaving a pylon there.
5:30 - first really obvious tell. he micros his probe around waiting for my queen to pass, despite not seeing the queen. As soon as my queen passes, he retreats with the probe
~8:00 - starts double robo. As soon as my spire starts, he cancels one and throws down a second stargate. ZERO SCOUTING OF ANYTHING, blind double stargate mass phoenix. Okay.
10:00 - he is doing some of the worst stargate play I've seen in my life. He has multiple phoenixes but doesn't even try to scout anything, doesn't try to kill overlords. Honestly, watching the replay it looks like he's AFK
11:30 - 10 mutas start, more phoenix and +1 air starts. No scouting of spire, natural, ANY gasses, or any fourth/fifth base or anything. All he's seen is my third hatch building and my spawning pool. Yet he's doing blind double SG phoenix with +1 air and being inactive with all his air units.
12:15 - as my mutas approach his base, he finally does something with his phoenix (gathers them together)
13:00 - as soon as I cancel mutas and techswitch into mass baneling/ling, he cancels phoenix and makes voidrays. Hasn't scouted this either
General awful play too. He can't macro a 2 base economy; by 13:30 he's banking close to 4k resources off of 2 bases, 2 SG, 1 robo and like 4 gateways. He is so bad that I managed to lose 12 mutas, drone up to 70, and still kill him when he's on 2 bases. Definitely not top master play IMO, and all his blind decisions that were perfect make me think he maphacks.
I don't know about you guys, but I've never had someone go stargate into double robo, then cancel the second robo when it's almost done and get a second stargate and +1 air without scouting anything.
Also he threatens to report ME for maphacking because I actually play well and scout for cannon rushes, what his 4 gasses are being spent on, and kill a probe that's sitting under an overlord.
Bonus replay: http://drop.sc/311121
His opponent in the next game was nice enough to send me this replay against Finesse. Upon watching it it seems a bit more standard, but he magically ONLY warps in counterattacks when ScGRising's army is on Finesse's side of the map (despite not seeing said army).
Also, at some point he warps in lots of DT/zealot into Rising's main and initially targets the hatch, but then rallies them into the FoW (that he sees nothing in) until an infestation pit appears RIGHT where he was clicking, and then he targets the infestation pit.
There's a lot of other suspicious things in that game, as well as the atrocious macro.
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On March 23 2013 00:23 Mavvie wrote:Hacker name: Finesse Server: NA League: Masters Description: http://drop.sc/311109Pretty obvious maphacks all game. I didn't notice any autoprobe, but I'm almost certain he uses a production tab and fog of war hack. 3:55 - hides probe as soon as my drone approaches my third, no vision of drone 4:30 - starts to cannon rush my third, but immediately abandons the plan as soon as I tell my lings to check for a cannon rush at my third. He sees NOTHING, but randomly decides to not build a single cannon, just leaving a pylon there. 5:30 - first really obvious tell. he micros his probe around waiting for my queen to pass, despite not seeing the queen. As soon as my queen passes, he retreats with the probe ~8:00 - starts double robo. As soon as my spire starts, he cancels one and throws down a second stargate. ZERO SCOUTING OF ANYTHING, blind double stargate mass phoenix. Okay. 10:00 - he is doing some of the worst stargate play I've seen in my life. He has multiple phoenixes but doesn't even try to scout anything, doesn't try to kill overlords. Honestly, watching the replay it looks like he's AFK 11:30 - 10 mutas start, more phoenix and +1 air starts. No scouting of spire, natural, ANY gasses, or any fourth/fifth base or anything. All he's seen is my third hatch building and my spawning pool. Yet he's doing blind double SG phoenix with +1 air and being inactive with all his air units. 12:15 - as my mutas approach his base, he finally does something with his phoenix (gathers them together) 13:00 - as soon as I cancel mutas and techswitch into mass baneling/ling, he cancels phoenix and makes voidrays. Hasn't scouted this either General awful play too. He can't macro a 2 base economy; by 13:30 he's banking close to 4k resources off of 2 bases, 2 SG, 1 robo and like 4 gateways. He is so bad that I managed to lose 12 mutas, drone up to 70, and still kill him when he's on 2 bases. Definitely not top master play IMO, and all his blind decisions that were perfect make me think he maphacks. I don't know about you guys, but I've never had someone go stargate into double robo, then cancel the second robo when it's almost done and get a second stargate and +1 air without scouting anything. Also he threatens to report ME for maphacking because I actually play well and scout for cannon rushes, what his 4 gasses are being spent on, and kill a probe that's sitting under an overlord. Bonus replay: http://drop.sc/311121His opponent in the next game was nice enough to send me this replay against Finesse. Upon watching it it seems a bit more standard, but he magically ONLY warps in counterattacks when ScGRising's army is on Finesse's side of the map (despite not seeing said army). Also, at some point he warps in lots of DT/zealot into Rising's main and initially targets the hatch, but then rallies them into the FoW (that he sees nothing in) until an infestation pit appears RIGHT where he was clicking, and then he targets the infestation pit. There's a lot of other suspicious things in that game, as well as the atrocious macro.
cant believe how easy it is to hack... i really hope this guy gets caught...
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<client value="[xAGx]Mavvie" index="0"/>
<client value="[AxGx]Finesse" index="1"/>
Same clan ? o_O
i watched the replay trough some various "hack" detection and nothing were automated (auto-worker) or auto play...
Beside that, you have a 87% spawn ratio.. that's... hum... huge.. Maybe because it's a short game.
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On March 22 2013 23:59 Youpla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 22 2013 11:13 Swordland wrote:
I just noticed, how come many people who post here only have 1 post count? probably come here to express their frustration after losing. Didn't know that trying to expose hackers and get the game cleaner was a way to "express our frustration". To answer the question, this thread is probably the only one (in the world ?) that is worth posting in if you want to expose some hacker. So if English is not your first language, you can either post a useless message in your local forum, or create an account here.
not sure why you read that as being a negative thing.
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On March 23 2013 01:14 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 23:59 Youpla wrote:On March 22 2013 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 22 2013 11:13 Swordland wrote:
I just noticed, how come many people who post here only have 1 post count? probably come here to express their frustration after losing. Didn't know that trying to expose hackers and get the game cleaner was a way to "express our frustration". To answer the question, this thread is probably the only one (in the world ?) that is worth posting in if you want to expose some hacker. So if English is not your first language, you can either post a useless message in your local forum, or create an account here. not sure why you read that as being a negative thing.
He is French, he probably has already given up so everything feels negative 
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On March 22 2013 12:30 Doodsmack wrote:Has anyone ever brought up Dyce in this thread? I could be wrong, and my replay isn't conclusive by itself, but it may warrant taking a look at him. For one thing, he's not that good but he's GM and 24-8. There's a general lack of scouting. But if he does hack, he makes an effort to hide it. Here's some specific things: http://drop.sc/3121387:40 - very strange drop at the tower near my hidden expo. I really see no reason to drop there. 12:45 - very convenient place to move his army there. 20:38 - again very good army movement timing. These are pretty slight clues, it's mainly the drop and lack of skill that made me suspicious. But maybe GM is just bad right now at the beginning of hots. Or maybe I just didn't realize that NA GM isn't that impressive lol. If anyone else has been suspicous of him, please chime in.
I'd like to start by saying that Dyce plays for the Rutgers CSL team so I, as well as several others, can vouch for him that he doesn't hack.
After watching the replay, I saw no signs of hacks of any kind. The 7:40 drop, while strange, might just have been his way of checking for hidden expos since he was fast teching to siege tanks after his drop and had no map control. Later he sends his helions to check the left side of the map.
As for the other instances, they are not even remotely suspicious. I have to think you might just have been frustrated losing a game where both sides made mistakes. However, and I don't intend this as an insult, you are only in diamond league and the room for improvement is vast on both sides. There's really no reason to post in this thread with so little conclusive evidence just to draw negative attention towards a player that beat you on ladder.
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NA: Clinique
Race: Terran
League: Diamond (17-5 playing top masters, about to be promoted)
Replay: http://drop.sc/312280
Description: This is my first time posting in this thread, but I just played this guy on ladder and it seemed very obvious in game that he was hacking. I watched the replay and it confirmed my suspicion, He opened with 2 marines that perfectly ping ponged between my overlord and my scouting lings. I was trying to scout his natural but never got an opportunity. In the replay you can see he is breaking down rocks and right before they die he starts urgently clicking his marines over directly to my overlord which has begun to move in again.
After that he move right to the ramp to intercept my 2 lings. Another instance was when his hellions intercepted my drone at the 3rd. May have been lucky, but then a minute or so later I sent my roaches to check the 3rd and right before they were in vision he moves his hellions from the 3rd and looks up slightly at the roaches in FoW,
As I said, I don't have a lot of experience looking at hackers, so if someone could take a look i'd appreciate it.
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On March 23 2013 01:05 Sc2HDB wrote:Show nested quote +
<client value="[xAGx]Mavvie" index="0"/>
<client value="[AxGx]Finesse" index="1"/>
Same clan ? o_O i watched the replay trough some various "hack" detection and nothing were automated (auto-worker) or auto play... Beside that, you have a 87% spawn ratio.. that's... hum... huge.. Maybe because it's a short game.
Yes, same clan. Only difference is I'm on a-team and he isn't.
Wow, I don't normally have that high a ratio. But you said no automation was detected so shouldn't that rule out auto injects? I would say the number was so high because he literally never pressured me or did anything, so I would be embarrassed to miss an inject. Also, yeah, it was a short game.
Not sure if I mentioned it in my original post, but I meant to say that I don't suspect automation hacks (checked sc2gears and watched replay from his PoV + selections)
On March 23 2013 00:49 Chrono000 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 00:23 Mavvie wrote:Hacker name: Finesse Server: NA League: Masters Description: http://drop.sc/311109Pretty obvious maphacks all game. I didn't notice any autoprobe, but I'm almost certain he uses a production tab and fog of war hack. 3:55 - hides probe as soon as my drone approaches my third, no vision of drone 4:30 - starts to cannon rush my third, but immediately abandons the plan as soon as I tell my lings to check for a cannon rush at my third. He sees NOTHING, but randomly decides to not build a single cannon, just leaving a pylon there. 5:30 - first really obvious tell. he micros his probe around waiting for my queen to pass, despite not seeing the queen. As soon as my queen passes, he retreats with the probe ~8:00 - starts double robo. As soon as my spire starts, he cancels one and throws down a second stargate. ZERO SCOUTING OF ANYTHING, blind double stargate mass phoenix. Okay. 10:00 - he is doing some of the worst stargate play I've seen in my life. He has multiple phoenixes but doesn't even try to scout anything, doesn't try to kill overlords. Honestly, watching the replay it looks like he's AFK 11:30 - 10 mutas start, more phoenix and +1 air starts. No scouting of spire, natural, ANY gasses, or any fourth/fifth base or anything. All he's seen is my third hatch building and my spawning pool. Yet he's doing blind double SG phoenix with +1 air and being inactive with all his air units. 12:15 - as my mutas approach his base, he finally does something with his phoenix (gathers them together) 13:00 - as soon as I cancel mutas and techswitch into mass baneling/ling, he cancels phoenix and makes voidrays. Hasn't scouted this either General awful play too. He can't macro a 2 base economy; by 13:30 he's banking close to 4k resources off of 2 bases, 2 SG, 1 robo and like 4 gateways. He is so bad that I managed to lose 12 mutas, drone up to 70, and still kill him when he's on 2 bases. Definitely not top master play IMO, and all his blind decisions that were perfect make me think he maphacks. I don't know about you guys, but I've never had someone go stargate into double robo, then cancel the second robo when it's almost done and get a second stargate and +1 air without scouting anything. Also he threatens to report ME for maphacking because I actually play well and scout for cannon rushes, what his 4 gasses are being spent on, and kill a probe that's sitting under an overlord. Bonus replay: http://drop.sc/311121His opponent in the next game was nice enough to send me this replay against Finesse. Upon watching it it seems a bit more standard, but he magically ONLY warps in counterattacks when ScGRising's army is on Finesse's side of the map (despite not seeing said army). Also, at some point he warps in lots of DT/zealot into Rising's main and initially targets the hatch, but then rallies them into the FoW (that he sees nothing in) until an infestation pit appears RIGHT where he was clicking, and then he targets the infestation pit. There's a lot of other suspicious things in that game, as well as the atrocious macro. cant believe how easy it is to hack... i really hope this guy gets caught...
Agreed. Well he's already been "caught", but we'll see if anything gets done about it. I did report him in-game for map hacking.
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i got a tool that list if 3 actions are made on same frame since 2 actions are too common and especially with zerg. Auto inject (background one) are easily detected while manual auto-inject are harder...
I agree for the % spawn and normal as far as you only focus on your inject... auto-worker showed only 15% (need to check again) of worker manually created as soon as the previous one is created (after 2 mins of game)..
Hard to tell more, will check that tomorrow to see if i can give you extre infos
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On March 20 2013 20:59 NrSAlaStOr wrote:I dont have too much time so im going to explain me fast: In my replay you can see how he makes without scouting vs 15 hatch, nexus gate forge canon (cause i make lings) and then he boost 2 zealots and instead of walling they move it to the mineral lane cause he know that he doesnt have time to defend walling. he never scouts The replay: http://drop.sc/311585The screens of his matchhistory : http://imgur.com/WvceFPi,OdnORCo,D3GQRxW,SeIkfOd#3
Confirmed, he is map hacker and bm. And most pathetic is that he was accusing me of cheating during our ladder game...
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