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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 11 2012 15:44 GMT
#601
Awesome news! There has been rumors going around about this but still glad it was finally confirmed! :D
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 15:47:19
May 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#602
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 11 2012 15:48 GMT
#603
On May 12 2012 00:46 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.


Yeah, I don't get what the other guy was trying to get at either.

Those guys got to where they're currently at for a reason. They know the definition of hard work.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
May 11 2012 15:53 GMT
#604
On May 12 2012 00:48 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:46 figq wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.


Yeah, I don't get what the other guy was trying to get at either.

Those guys got to where they're currently at for a reason. They know the definition of hard work.



They have been working hard their entire lives, but for a different game.
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Reapafied
Profile Joined February 2011
65 Posts
May 11 2012 15:55 GMT
#605
People do understand that all the kespa players are under contract to kespa. So without some form of deal like this you would see no kespa players outside of kespa tournaments.
getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
May 11 2012 15:59 GMT
#606
On May 12 2012 00:53 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:46 figq wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.


Yeah, I don't get what the other guy was trying to get at either.

Those guys got to where they're currently at for a reason. They know the definition of hard work.



They have been working hard their entire lives, but for a different game.


I feel like SC2 diehards kind of hope the BW pros fail because they feel it will validate their game. If they succeed, it doesn't necessarily mean BW is a superior/harder game, and vice-versa if they don't do well immediately.

I don't think anyone is saying Flash will dominate in a few weeks. I expect in a few months we will start seeing some decent results, and within a year they will be near the top if they put in the same work ethic. Flash won't immediately claim bonjwa status, but I expect it will happen eventually.
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MLGrben
Profile Joined August 2010
United States129 Posts
May 11 2012 16:01 GMT
#607
On May 11 2012 23:41 torm3ntin wrote:
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On May 11 2012 23:37 MLGrben wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:11 Rorschach wrote:
Horrible news.

The way it seems to be playing out, KeSPA players will only be allowed to participate in MLG events. These MLG events will of course be PPV, so the only way to see KeSPA players playing is to fork out cash. MLG will of course share the profits they make off of this with KeSPA.

Makes sense for the companies in short term, bad for the SC2 scene in general tho.


MLG Championship events always have been free, nothing has changed. Tune in during Anaheim and watch, it will be free.


But what i see here is that there is going to be an exclusive tournament for the Kespa guys. And probably this stream wont be free. Also the HotS stream won't be free either i suppose.

So yeah for the first time i will see myself thinking about buying this stuff.


HOTS stream and KESPA players playing in their mini tournament will be free.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 11 2012 16:02 GMT
#608
On May 11 2012 23:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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On May 11 2012 23:50 algue wrote:
Nothing amazing , this just means that that MLG will stay the same : TOP 10 full korean.


As would all tournaments if every professional player in the world was in attendance.


yep this why this is not that amazing
rly ?
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
May 11 2012 16:03 GMT
#609
Exclusivity is shit. That's the only thing I have to say. I hate MLG more and more each day...

God, when I think that I actually liked the event a couple of months ago.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 11 2012 16:03 GMT
#610
On May 12 2012 00:53 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:46 figq wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.


Yeah, I don't get what the other guy was trying to get at either.

Those guys got to where they're currently at for a reason. They know the definition of hard work.



They have been working hard their entire lives, but for a different game.
How dare they.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 11 2012 16:05 GMT
#611
How will the fans react to their play? When current pros play below their normal standards LR threads always fill with "omfg this platinum league play horrible to watch". Pretty safe to say coming games are way below anything sc2 fans are used to.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
May 11 2012 16:06 GMT
#612
On May 12 2012 00:59 getSome[703] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:53 Kuni wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:46 figq wrote:
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
Heh, the gods have worked much harder their whole lives.


Yeah, I don't get what the other guy was trying to get at either.

Those guys got to where they're currently at for a reason. They know the definition of hard work.



They have been working hard their entire lives, but for a different game.


I feel like SC2 diehards kind of hope the BW pros fail because they feel it will validate their game. If they succeed, it doesn't necessarily mean BW is a superior/harder game, and vice-versa if they don't do well immediately.

I don't think anyone is saying Flash will dominate in a few weeks. I expect in a few months we will start seeing some decent results, and within a year they will be near the top if they put in the same work ethic. Flash won't immediately claim bonjwa status, but I expect it will happen eventually.



I don't think hoping that they fail is what most sc2 fans wish for. Eventually Flash and the others should come out on top. He said in an interview it will probably take 2+ years, but that surely was an exaggeration to keep things cool. Sc2 doesn't have to be validated. The fact that it's so popular all around the world except for Korea speaks for itself.
However, although many sc2 pros were only 2nd grade broodwar players, I feel it would be kind of sad if 2 years of work was completely in vain and Flash, JD and the others were able to crush them immediately.
I think it's in the Gods nature to eventually come out on top :D
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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
May 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#613
On May 12 2012 01:03 Xalorian wrote:
Exclusivity is shit. That's the only thing I have to say. I hate MLG more and more each day...

God, when I think that I actually liked the event a couple of months ago.



So go watch something else
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
May 11 2012 16:10 GMT
#614
wow. our sc2 worlds are about to be flipped upside down.
slim pickens
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
May 11 2012 16:10 GMT
#615
Holy crap!
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Reapafied
Profile Joined February 2011
65 Posts
May 11 2012 16:11 GMT
#616
On May 12 2012 01:03 Xalorian wrote:
Exclusivity is shit. That's the only thing I have to say. I hate MLG more and more each day...

God, when I think that I actually liked the event a couple of months ago.

All kespa players are contracted to kespa. So they can only play in kespa autherized tournaments. No deal like this means no players outsode of kespa ever. Happened in BW would of happened agaon without this. People need to look at the big picture and also not forget the past so easily.
mynsc
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania4 Posts
May 11 2012 16:15 GMT
#617
So I guess no BW player will ever set foot in Europe as long as this multi-year exclusive partnership is active?

Can't help but feel that a lot of us fans got shafted.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
May 11 2012 16:15 GMT
#618
This is awesome!
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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
May 11 2012 16:16 GMT
#619
On May 12 2012 01:05 Jarree wrote:
How will the fans react to their play? When current pros play below their normal standards LR threads always fill with "omfg this platinum league play horrible to watch". Pretty safe to say coming games are way below anything sc2 fans are used to.

Personally, I'm going to "go easy" on them. That is, since I know they still must practice BW and SC2, I'm not expecting amazing games. Especially when one considers that although they may have been causally playing for a while, they are barely going to begin structured practice. Expecting amazing, high level games and being upset when they don't deliver doesn't make sense.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
May 11 2012 16:19 GMT
#620
On May 12 2012 01:11 Reapafied wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:03 Xalorian wrote:
Exclusivity is shit. That's the only thing I have to say. I hate MLG more and more each day...

God, when I think that I actually liked the event a couple of months ago.

All kespa players are contracted to kespa. So they can only play in kespa autherized tournaments. No deal like this means no players outsode of kespa ever. Happened in BW would of happened agaon without this. People need to look at the big picture and also not forget the past so easily.



I wonder if that really was the case when making this "deal"

World: Somebody set up us the bomb :-(
World: We get signal!!
World: Main screen turn on!!
Kespa: How are you gentlemen?
*silence*
Mlg. *raisehands* What you say?
Kespa: All your base are belong to us!!!! *looksinthecrowd"
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