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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 32

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Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
May 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#621
Yeah everyone saw this coming now, but honestly I really liked the pros in BW staying in BW, they were just so amazing to watch play that game...time to cash in your chips now if you're a foreigner pro gamer in SC2, #dayjobs.
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Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 16:26:25
May 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#622
dont like this
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
mRandy
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 16:38:52
May 11 2012 16:23 GMT
#623
I see a lack of underweare being thrown is this thread. Hell it was even more hype in the thorzian thread. I think people view this in the wrong time perspective. Yes we want the best games ever and we want them now. But there is a reason players like Flash and other BW pros play for the team they play for. And i believe it's money. Look at football (soccer for you americanos) stars that have risen and faded the last 10 years. They all stop being football players at some
Point and become bissnessmen. David Backhem was a really good player but did some odd things at the end of he'a time as a fotball player like switching teams a lot amongst other things. And it can be argued that it was for the money.

What I'm getting at is the fact that the BW pros played BW becus they make money from it and it's what their boss tells them to do. And if this exusitivity is the only way for them to get exposure then so be it. We should all support this and hope for a day when a team outside of KeSPA can buy players from them.
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Lordanubis
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
May 11 2012 16:52 GMT
#624
If this is exclusive, meaning that KeSPA players will not be allowed to compete at other foreign events, then it's very damaging for the foreign scene. They last thing we need is impressive tournaments like IEM and Dreamhack (the latter of which is definately on par with MLG imo) getting marginalised due to the lack of "top talent" (if the BW players ever become top talent) able to compete at them.

I hope it's not the case, but if it is then a huge "shame on MLG" from me. Sure they're a business, but naively I actually thought they gave a damn about the foreign scene...
"Hell hath no fury like a Shattered Star" - The Shattered Star
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 11 2012 16:54 GMT
#625
Does this mean Kespa going along the path of not being so strict like they were in BW?
SCStardust
Profile Joined November 2011
Portugal8 Posts
May 11 2012 16:56 GMT
#626
On May 12 2012 00:16 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:07 archonOOid wrote:
so there will be now kespa players in DH, IPL and IEM? I want a free market not a monopoly.


This is a free market. Two companies combining to rise above the others. Happens in free markets all the time.


Quite, its a form of private cartelization and made illegal by most competition laws because its harmful...

Ofc here its not illegal but the same principles apply (particularly the harmfulness).
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
May 11 2012 16:57 GMT
#627
Grats.

Kespa already getting a good grip on the most visible market for their licensed players.
I agree with someone before that we can expect this not to be on free stream. Milk the cow when you can.

If there is indeed imposed a split of the players into Kespa/MLG/IEG controlled and "others", then that is no good news for Starcraft2 community as a whole. The big tournaments will simply drop SC2 in the mid term (hello LoL).

PS:
International e-Sports Group (IEG) was mentioned in the Kespa memo, but not the MLG one - what does that mean?
Would be a good first step if the MLG gets broadcast by IEG in Korea, since well, korean streaming and broadcasting for SC2 is at this point totally lackluster outside of GOM.


TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#628
I hope theres nothing ill between IPL/Gom and MLG/Kespa.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 11 2012 17:08 GMT
#629
On May 12 2012 02:02 TBone- wrote:
I hope theres nothing ill between IPL/Gom and MLG/Kespa.


that's like saying theres nothing ill between Coke and Pepsi or Sony Playstation and Xbox360 or Intel and AMD
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 17:15 GMT
#630
On May 12 2012 01:03 Xalorian wrote:
Exclusivity is shit. That's the only thing I have to say. I hate MLG more and more each day...

God, when I think that I actually liked the event a couple of months ago.


I hope you are trolling, but if you aren't then what a stupid attitude. They have to bring them over eventually and gradually. We don't want to lose everything to LoL do we?
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
May 11 2012 17:15 GMT
#631
Bleh, you are making it like an end of the world. Truth is, those players wont be ready to compete on high level at least for another half year, maybe even more (I would say probably until HotS comes out). Or would you like to see Bisu/Flash/Jaedong/Stork etc to go to Dreamhack Summer and be stomped by guys like Cytoplasm/Bischu/Lalush? (Nothing against them, just used them as an example of average EU pro). Newsflash, Kespa wont allow something like this. We are lucky we will be even able to see them outside of Proleague. (and btw, if OGN really opens the first SC2 OSL completely, we probably wont see them even there...) And when HotS comes out, who knows what may change until then....
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
May 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#632
Holy crap, I already thought this was going to be an amazing tournament because of both the tourny and HotS preview. Now we get BW players playing too?!?!!

My main hope is that Jaedong plays there!
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
May 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#633
GSL = open tournament plus some seeded players to make foreigners happy.
MLG = oh well..
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#634
On May 12 2012 02:08 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:02 TBone- wrote:
I hope theres nothing ill between IPL/Gom and MLG/Kespa.


that's like saying theres nothing ill between Coke and Pepsi or Sony Playstation and Xbox360 or Intel and AMD


the difference is that those companies couldn't benefit one another. The more promotions that work together in SC2 E-Sports the better.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:36:36
May 11 2012 17:32 GMT
#635
On May 11 2012 15:09 Amlitzer wrote:
I think I just threw up a little.

~_~ shouldn't BW bitching get banned for talking shit about sc2? when sc2 people get banned on a daily basis in the BW forums for stupid ass comments like this?

OT: stoked to see how they are coming along (the BW pros converting)
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:41:08
May 11 2012 17:38 GMT
#636
I'm actually fairly worried about this annoucement because of one word.

Exclusive

How the hell are they going to spread esports in the entire western world if it's limited to a US centric tournament. Is Europe going to get to see Kespa players on its soil, because if not then thats horseshit, not to insult the NA player base but theres a world of depth in talent right now between the two continents.

And now for a moment of me being pedantic

New York – May 11, 2012 –Major League Gaming (MLG), the world’s largest competitive video game league, and the Korean eSports Association (KeSPA),


What does this actually mean? I'm pretty sure dreamhack has them beat on sheer numbers of attendees. And I'm pretty sure BW Proleague had them beat in money terms and viewer numbers. What unit of measurement are you using for "largest"?
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
May 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#637
the MLG would be completely dead without SC2, great news for all the fans in the states.

PS: KeSPA should make SC2 remakes of the BW maps so we can see more interesting matches, IMHO the blizz maps should not be used competitively.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 11 2012 17:53 GMT
#638
it's not as if they want to leave much anyway, they have proleague and starleague weekly. travelling 10 hours to a marathon weekend tournament (which is more or less unnecessary prize hunting considering their salaries) is harmful to their practice and league success.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
May 11 2012 17:57 GMT
#639
I really like this announcement, talk about nerd chills. I wish I could attend that Anaheim event now even though I live on the opposite side of the country.

Also, I do not entirely understand the frustration or disappointment about it. People object to the fact that it's an exclusive MLG-KeSPA deal that therefore means no KeSPA players at IPL or NASL? Or that MLG is turning a cold shoulder to GOM or something? Please lay out the downsides more concisely.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
May 11 2012 17:58 GMT
#640
On May 12 2012 02:38 Asymmetric wrote:
I'm actually fairly worried about this annoucement because of one word.

Exclusive

How the hell are they going to spread esports in the entire western world if it's limited to a US centric tournament. Is Europe going to get to see Kespa players on its soil, because if not then thats horseshit, not to insult the NA player base but theres a world of depth in talent right now between the two continents.

And now for a moment of me being pedantic

Show nested quote +
New York – May 11, 2012 –Major League Gaming (MLG), the world’s largest competitive video game league, and the Korean eSports Association (KeSPA),


What does this actually mean? I'm pretty sure dreamhack has them beat on sheer numbers of attendees. And I'm pretty sure BW Proleague had them beat in money terms and viewer numbers. What unit of measurement are you using for "largest"?

Number of competitors. MLG includes Gamebattles.
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